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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #540 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 10:54pm »
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London's 1906 "gate stock" were of a type similiar to those that also carried "head-end" traffic during the early years of the "tubes" in London.
 
Note that these cars were built in the USA (ACF), and were shipped to Great Britain, where they were re-assembled.......
 
http://www.ask.com/wiki/London_Underground_1906_Stock
 
http://en.wikipedia.com/wiki/File:1906_Gate_Stock_Motor_Car.png


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #541 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 11:10pm »
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Another early London "Tube" car; note that this car had been later converted for work service, and was operating in that capacity when it was retired and entered preservation.
 
Note that the car indeed has a "combo" look; that front section actually housed the motors and other electrical gear (recall London underground trains, unlike their US counterparts, where always very low slung).
 
It was not until the 1930's when new technology allowed motors to be installed underneath the car floors.......
 
http://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?23612


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #542 on: Jun 16th, 2012, 11:22pm »
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Earlier, I'd mention a unique funeral service offered by the Chicago Rapid Transit on their elevated lines until the 1930's.
 
A rare photo on this page shows one of the converted funeral cars in operation.
 
This somber service was reflective of the "steam" roads, where many a departed soul had their remains transported to their final resting place via a baggage car......
 
http://www.chicago-l.org/trains/roster/woods.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #543 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 12:10am »
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Several handsome examples of interurban "combos"......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/camv01.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/cpa01.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/cswc29.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/ohel05.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #544 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 12:29am »
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A few more magnificent interurban cars from Indiana......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/in/htm/utc03.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/in/htm/irlc02.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/in/htm/irlc01.htm


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #545 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 1:40am »
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Mr. Malone, your mention of a "Funeral Car" in Chicago awakened a long-slumbering memory . . .
 
The narrow-gauge Los Angeles Street Railway (the "Yellow Cars") also had a Funeral Car, named Descanso, that upon retirement, found its way to the top of Cajon Pass!  It sat there for many years as a "bunkhouse" for visiting railfans who would gather for weekends of train-watching.  Just a stone's throw from the Summit depot (above and behind), it even played host, I believe, to a young man named Chard Walker, before he came to Summit to live and work as a telegraph operator.  The car remained on its regal perch atop the Pass until it had to be removed for SP's new "Palmdale Cutoff" (which now passes directly over the spot once occupied by Descanso.
 
Here's a good photo of the Descanso, from the '60s . . . the Summit depot is off-camera to the left, and a bit downhill.
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/modelrailroadmuseum/6244003471
 
Since its removal from Summit, the Descanso has been lovingly restored to as-new condition by the Orange Empire Railway Museum in Perris, California (south of Riverside).  Here's their page on this car, with the whole story - -
 
http://www.oerm.org/pages/lary_descanso.html
 
By the way, the entire http://www.oerm.org website is well worth browsing.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #546 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 1:53am »
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Norm:
 
Here is a "trolley funeral" in progress, circa-1914.
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/wa/htm/elp01.htm
 
Not get off-topic too much, but I think rare old photos such as this truly exemplifies the strong presence that railways of all kinds once had on the lives of Americans a century ago.
 
As with "head-end" operations, there was so, so much regarding the day-to-day operations of railroads, street railways/interurbans, and rapid transit lines that few today are even aware of.
 
This is yet another reason why our "hobby" is as important as it is......
 
"H.F.M."
 
BTW:
 
Appreciate, as always, your valuable input!


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #547 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 2:03am »
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Two long-ago examples of interurban express/baggage cars......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/mv03.htm
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/tind01.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #548 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 2:09am »
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A stately interurban combine from Ohio, 1920......
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/oh/htm/rps01.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #549 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 1:59pm »
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An ex-NH "Washboard" MU combo, preserved today.....
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/nh/htm/nh100.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #550 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 9:55pm »
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No discussion of bygone head-end operations could be considered complete without at least some mention of, perhaps, the most famous of all head-end cars.....the little wooden combo that made up the consist of the famed "HOOTERVILLE CANNONBALL", the wood-burning star of "PETTICOAT JUNCTION", back in the 60's!
 
"......come and ride the little train that is going down the track to the Junction......"
 
http://petticoat.topcities.com/hooterville_cannonball.htm
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hooterville_Cannonball
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #551 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 10:03pm »
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See also......
 
http://petticoat.topcities.com/trainphoto.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #552 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 10:14pm »
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1960's TYCO catalog illustrations for the HO "CANNONBALL" (two sets were available)
 
Note that, unlike the prototype "CANNONBALL", the sets also included TWO coaches, in addition to the combine!
 
Perhaps the C&FW was getting into the commuter business, between Hooterville and Pixlie......<G>
 
http://petticoat.topcities.com/tycotraincat.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #553 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 10:28pm »
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Also of interest (from "MOVIE RAILROADS")......
 
http://petticoat.topcities.com/movierailroads.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #554 on: Jun 17th, 2012, 10:46pm »
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Gee.....this cute lil' combo SURE does look familiar.....
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sierra5.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #555 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 12:13am »
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All:
 
A most interesting, even charming, photo on page 16 of October, 1970 issue of TRAINS, shows a photo of C&O "mixed train" #310.
 
This neat little train consisted of as Geep, a heavyweight combo, an ex-B&O Pullman "EMERALD WATERS" (then owned by the C.P. Huntington Chapter of the NRHS, and seen here in an excursion), with a caboose bringing up the rear.
 
Certainly a most modelworthy consist!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #556 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 12:21am »
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Interesting reading (w/ a few photos) of Canadian mixed trains.......
 
http://www.wcra.org/features/mixed-trains.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #557 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 12:29am »
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Excellent illustrated page on "modern era" mixeds of the GEORGIA RAILROAD......
 
http://railfan.com/extraboard/rf_extra_may2011.php


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« Reply #558 on: Jun 20th, 2012, 2:49pm »
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Actually rode a mixed train once. Behind steam, too. Moscow, Camden & St.Auguistine, from Moscow to Camden in the summer of 1958. 2-8-0, ex-Panama Canal loco. Then toured the Carter Bros. Mill there (can you imagine a saw mill letting a bunch of teen-agers tour it now?). Wish I knew what ahppened to my pictures (not very good - B&W, using an old Brownie Hawkeye and 620 film). I was 14, 15 later that year...

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on Jun 20th, 2012, 2:49pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Actually rode a mixed train once. Behind steam, too. Moscow, Camden & St.Auguistine, from Moscow to Camden in the summer of 1958. 2-8-0, ex-Panama Canal loco. Then toured the Carter Bros. Mill there (can you imagine a saw mill letting a bunch of teen-agers tour it now?). Wish I knew what ahppened to my pictures (not very good - B&W, using an old Brownie Hawkeye and 620 film). I was 14, 15 later that year...

 
 
Clyde:  
 
Lucky fellow, indeed!
 
I've long regard the E-L trains of my younger years as "mixeds", those that carried TOFC flats in the consist.
 
Here, it gets interesting, as though such equipment would normally be classified as "freight", these would, of course, be equipped with steam and signal lines, so as to operate in passenger consists.
 
Milk cars, also, certainly more resemble a "freight" car than any piece of passenger equipment, but, like the TOFC's, carried the hardware required for them to operate in passenger trains.......
 
"H.F.M."


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