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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #440 on: May 23rd, 2012, 4:38pm »
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NORM-
 
THANKS! And a Super find!
 
See the problems in writing any historical copy? Text states it a four car train. Yet, we have the photo depicting six cars!  
Quite taken with fact that, on the mechanicals, the locomotives were initial four cylinder design! (It would have made for  
enchanting exhaust sounds?)
 
Must have cut quite a figure, running on the bit of street track in Oakland!
 
......................Vern...................


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« Reply #441 on: Jun 11th, 2012, 10:45pm »
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From "CLASSIC TRAINS" (Summer 2005)
 
All:
 
Just dug out this issue, and came upon the following, gleaned from an article on the DL&W's last Hudsons:
 
".........another latter-day Hudson assignment was Train #1301, the INTERSTATE EXPRESS, which the Lackawanna recieved from the RDG/Jersey Central at Taylor Jct., near Scranton. A big train with several mail and express cars, plus a Philadelphia-Syracuse Pullman, ot was hauled by a DL&W 4-6-4 to Binghamton, where the cars were split between three trains........"
 
"..........#15, THE OWL, to Buffalo; #1815 to Utica; and the #1915 to Syracuse. Each day at about 7AM, the switching activity at Binghamton was fast and furious, as mail and express cars were exchanged between the incoming #1301 and the four outgoing connections......."
 
"............THE OWL's Hudson, coupled to three or four baggage cars, would be standing on the main line in front of the station, while, to the east, the complicated switching moves were being made. Eventually, #15's consist would be put back together, plus those of the two connecting trains. Then, all three would depart at close intervals, as would a D&H train that left the adjecent ERIE station for Albany......"
 
"H.F.M."
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #442 on: Jun 11th, 2012, 11:05pm »
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Hoboken, 1939..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw-s1152w.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #443 on: Jun 11th, 2012, 11:12pm »
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Another timeless (undated) scene at Hoboken; though only one head-end car is in this double-headed consist, this vintage view is truly majestic.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw-s1140bgd.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #444 on: Jun 11th, 2012, 11:24pm »
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DL&W Train #943, near Binghamton, 1938.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/dlw1189.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #445 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:27am »
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Gentlemen:
 
In conclusion, I believe we have seen throughout the course of this extensive discussion, that head-end traffic was a vital component of day-to-day passenger operations, providing a substatial source of revenues for the railroads of the day.
 
When one also remembers that head-end traffic was also a part of many suburban operations as well (the DL&W, as an example, not only operated MU combos, but certain MU trains also hauled milk cars), one can easily see just how extensive and diverse such traffic was.
 
The removal of most mail from the rails later in the 60's clearly underminded the entire passenger sector; it is of no small consequence (IMHO) that the great and vast REA empire began to collapse at about the same time.
 
With so much revenues lost from the loss of both mail and REA traffic, it does not come as any surprise that the American passenger train as we knew it was doomed......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #446 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 11:07am »
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As noted in Reply #446, Binghamton once bustled with head-end traffic, even into the E-L era.
 
These E-L views date to the early 60's, depicting the still-heavy head-end loadings of that era, as well as the presence of REA.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el820at.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el810at.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el809at.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #447 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 8:12pm »
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Undated photo of ESPEE Train #12, the "APACHE".......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/sp/sp-s4301vaa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #448 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:00pm »
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No shortage whatsoever of head-end traffic in this impressive NYC consist at Chicago, 1945.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5202ahv.jpg


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« Reply #449 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:05pm »
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on Jun 12th, 2012, 9:00pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
No shortage whatsoever of head-end traffic in this impressive NYC consist at Chicago, 1945.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5202ahv.jpg

 
 
No, there wouldn't have been, not then.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #450 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:07pm »
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Mid-train head-end positioning in another impressive NYC steam-era photo, Detroit, 1950........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s4754dma.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #451 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:13pm »
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Erie, PA (NYC), 1940.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s4713o.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #452 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:26pm »
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Classic NYC meet at Toledo, Ohio, 1947......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5452kna.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #453 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:31pm »
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Near Albany, NY(NYC), 1941........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5320ass.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #454 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 9:39pm »
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"TIGHT CURVE"(St. Louis, 1940)..............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5400o.jpg


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« Reply #455 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 10:02pm »
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on Jun 12th, 2012, 9:39pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"TIGHT CURVE"(St. Louis, 1940)..............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5400o.jpg

 
Woof! I reckon so. That would would be tight scaled down on a model layout in 1:87, i think.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #456 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 10:22pm »
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Three Rivers, MI (NYC), 1935......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s4759ass.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #457 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 10:32pm »
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Vermilion, Ohio (NYC), 1932.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5253ago.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #458 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 10:41pm »
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The heavyweight RPO in this stately NYC consist at Scotia, NY (1945) is clearly the "odd man out"!
 
Truly one magnificent train.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s5426o.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #459 on: Jun 12th, 2012, 10:47pm »
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Undated NYC scene at Marion, Ohio..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-s4915kna.jpg


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