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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #400 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:27am »
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Norm
 
Hey, I try!
 
And THANK YOU, sir, for your valuable (and most fascinating) SF stats, notes, and observations!
 
What can I say, my friend.....I've had ''varnish'' in my blood for over 50 years!
 
Can't get enough of classic passenger stuff!
 
''H.F.M.''


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #401 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:39am »
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Petersburg, WV., 1957 (NW)
 
Timeless scenes such as these were once as commonplace as cracks in the sidewalk......how much we took for granted......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw-s123ads.jpg


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #402 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:39am »
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on May 22nd, 2012, 12:27am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Norm
 
Hey, I try!
 
And THANK YOU, sir, for your valuable (and most fascinating) SF stats, notes, and observations!
 
What can I say, my friend.....Ive had ''varnish'' in my blood for over 50 years!
 
Can't get enough of classic passenger stuff!
 
''H.F.M.''

 
 
Me Neither!      
 
 As Tevye said, "If this is a sickness, may I be smitten with it, and may i never recover!"
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #403 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:45am »
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on May 22nd, 2012, 12:39am, Norm_Anderson wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Me Neither!      
 
 As Tevye said, "If this is a sickness, may I be smitten with it, and may i never recover!"
 
Norm

 
Norm:
 
Recall Tevye's most frequently-used word in ''Fiddler''.....
 
''TRADITION''!!
 
Thankfully, we older "Tevyes" of today are blessed with fond memories of the once-commonplace "traditions" of passenger railroading!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #404 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:51am »
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N&W ''DOUBLEHEADER'', Norfolk, 1967.
 
This timeless image of railroading past conjurs up fond old CNJ and E-L memories.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw500s.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #405 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:54am »
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''DITTO''!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw505s.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #406 on: May 22nd, 2012, 12:59am »
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Lafayette Jct., Indiana (N&W, 1970)........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw521.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #407 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:04am »
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Decatur, Illionois (NW), 1970......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw506g.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #408 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:06am »
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Bluefield, WV, 1987.
 
Here's one for you "shorty" consist lovers......<G>
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nw/nw-s611ags.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #409 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:14am »
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Certainly NOT your ''average'' head-end car, this C&NW baggage-lounge easily catches the eye!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnw/cnw-bl7602goa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #410 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:23am »
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Classic early 40's steam consists on the old "SUSIE-Q" (NYS&W)
 
"Charming" best describes these quaint consists of a long-ago time!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-s0963jzb.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-s961bjz.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #411 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:30am »
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I LOVE this wonderful "ol' timey" scene on the NYS&W, taken at Butler, in 1940!
 
Check out that truss-rodded classic being hauled by this simply magnificent steamer!
 
Man, how could such grand and noble machines be so ruthlessly destroyed with not one pang of guilt, nor twang of remorse?
 
True marvel of engineering!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-s0963jzc.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #412 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:43am »
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Impressive lineup at Rutland, Vermont, 1948......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/rut/rut-s92.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #413 on: May 22nd, 2012, 1:54am »
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Dang, I LOVE pics like this memorable ROCK ISLAND view from 1971! (Joliet)
 
Try this one out on your home pikes, guys, and hear the cry go out from your pals....
 
"HEY! IT AIN'T PROTOTYPIC!"
 
The railroads sure fired the imagination, back in the old days!<G>
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/ri/ri648dca.jpg
 
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #414 on: May 22nd, 2012, 2:02am »
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Timeless ROCK ISLAND steam image (no date/location)
 
That is one MIGHTY FINE-lookin' engine, boys!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/ri/ri-s0976vaa.jpg


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #415 on: May 22nd, 2012, 7:38am »
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on May 22nd, 2012, 1:30am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I LOVE this wonderful "ol' timey" scene on the NYS&W, taken at Butler, in 1940!...
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-s0963jzc.jpg

HFM -  
 
Comparable scenes on WESTERN MARYLAND  RR into dates past end of WWII. It had a number of "Light Pacific" types,  
substantially similar to the NYS&W shown. The W M Power had served earlier on SEABOARD....
 
BTW. On N & W Passenger service. The line did it with style, and understatement. I long thought the "600" Class always  
appeared to be in charge, and some of the trains looked very much "overpowered"!
 
..................Vern....................


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #416 on: May 22nd, 2012, 7:56am »
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NORM -
 
Many Thanks for finding some time for your detailed commentary on the Photos!
 
In the discussion: The 3460? Yeah, as captioned I thought it was all wrong, but didn't know why.
 
A Photo in here of "Golden Gate", "Valley Flyer" or what have you. I do not recall seeing this Photo anywhere and anytime.  
I'll reach out and estimate it may have been a site just somewhere East of Richmond. It is obviously not on the Street in  
Emeryville or Oakland?
 
ATSF Policy about Train Consists and Power Desk, respecting Super Chief and El Cap. Appreciate your comments it was  
most unusual for either ever seen as set up heavy on the head end. Over the years, I have estimated and formed own ideas  
about how the Railroad run every day. This without benefit of long sessions at the watering holes with ATSF guys in the know.  
So, my own comments of yesterday, explaining Power Desk strategy.
 
....................Vern.................


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #417 on: May 22nd, 2012, 9:21am »
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on May 22nd, 2012, 7:56am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

A Photo in here of "Golden Gate", "Valley Flyer" or what have you. I do not recall seeing this Photo anywhere and anytime.  
I'll reach out and estimate it may have been a site just somewhere East of Richmond. It is obviously not on the Street in  
Emeryville or Oakland?
 
 
....................Vern.................

 
 
Vern, the Valley Flyer is an interesting consist, with an equally interesting and colorful story . . .
 
Here's the link to the photo:  http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-s1369abw.jpg
 
This consist was assembled specifically in conjunction with the Golden Gate International Exposition (the "San Francisco World's Fair") of 1939.  This was such a ballyhooed event that other railroads advertised special services to the Fair (CBQ-DRGW-WP even inaugurated a new passenger train service, called the Exposition Flyer, which remained their premier Chicago-San Francisco service until the coming of the California Zephyr a decade later).
 
The Valley Flyer moniker, in my view, was deliberately intended to capture a bit of that aura.  I also have no doubt that Santa Fe wished they could have fielded a streamliner for this service-- trouble was, in 1939 they didn't yet have enough lightweight equipment on hand to create an additional train.  There were already two streamlined Golden Gates flying between Oakland and Bakersfield, but to take lightweight cars from them, thus reducing them to mixed lightweight/heavyweight status, was unthinkable.  So, they took four heavyweight Chair Cars, a Diner, and a Baggage/Lounge, and tried to give them a dazzling "streamliner-style" appearance.  The cars were painted aluminum silver, complete with red/yellow/black "Warbonnet" striping along the floorline! (These were the only AT&SF passenger cars ever to wear these stripes along the floorline, no matter what you might see in a hobby shop!)  there were two Pacific-type locomotives similarly gussied-up for this service.
 
The train lived up to its Flyer name. too.  Its running time between Bakersfield and Oakland was only 30 minutes slower than the E1-hauled lightweight Golden Gates, and two hours faster than other steam-hauled passenger trains over the same line.
 
The "World's Fair" lasted for two Summers (1939 and 1940).  During the winter "off-season" in between, this consist was sent south to Los Angeles, and rolled along the Surf Line in the company of San Diegan streamliners.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #418 on: May 22nd, 2012, 9:54am »
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NORM -
 
Thank You for restating the Photo link! The view is provocative! I just can't figure where it may have been done! I have  
fairly much dismissed Oakland - Emeryville - Berkeley - Richmond, but I could be all wrong. Background hints fairly  
flat terrain, which suggests a point in the Valley?
 
Yes, yes! At the time of the Treasure Island based Exposition, everybody tried to get into the act. The GREYHOUND  
folders of the era are fascinating. Also, any number of movies relied on the Treasure Island filming locale, including at  
least one, Charlie Chan at Treasure Island (1939) (Sidney Toler). Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chan
 
For your viewing amusement (fluent in Italian?). Note here's a "freebie" touting PAN AMERICAN WORLD AIRWAYS.  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL2Ck-xZL6M
 
.........................Vern.....................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #419 on: May 22nd, 2012, 10:11am »
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17 Mile Grade, WV (B&O), 1950.....
 
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