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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #20 on: May 13th, 2012, 12:50am »
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SF mail containers at Chicago, 1966......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf00202jpa.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-mc216jpa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #21 on: May 13th, 2012, 12:54am »
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Heavweight SF combine # 2544, Grand Canyon, 1965
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-cb2544jpa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #22 on: May 13th, 2012, 1:00am »
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SF combo #2640, Dodge City, 1967.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-cb2640jpa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #23 on: May 13th, 2012, 1:03am »
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SF combo #2642...........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-cb2642jpa.jpg


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jmlaboda
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« Reply #24 on: May 13th, 2012, 1:09am »
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"Since much of the old YV right-of-way still exists, have you heard any rumblings or blue-skying about maybe reviving rail service to El Portal?"
 
It would be a real surprise if they would ever seriously consider such... the cost is just way too great to restore the right-of-way and actually lay track.  You are talking about $Millions per mile.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #25 on: May 13th, 2012, 1:32am »
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SF heavyweight baggage-express #1792 at Alburquerque, 1965......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-be1792jpa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #26 on: May 13th, 2012, 1:57am »
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More on rail by mail.
 
........by that point, (1967), many passenger trains still in service were deriving most, if not all, of their revenue from the lucrative government mail contracts.............."
 
http://www.american-rails.com/railway-post-office.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #27 on: May 13th, 2012, 2:11am »
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The CNJ used combos extensively in suburban service until 1967, when the ALDENE PLAN went into effect.
 
Cars such as these could also be found on CNJ "long-haul" runs, such as the Allentown Mail Train, which was discontinued in 1965, when mail service on the CNJ ended..............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj-cb343jda.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cnj/cnj-cb277akg.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #28 on: May 13th, 2012, 2:23am »
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ACL RPO-baggage #731 at Hamlet, NC, 1967..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/acl/acl-br0731dca.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #29 on: May 13th, 2012, 2:29am »
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NYC 48 seat-combo, Newtonville, MA, 1962..............
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nyc298.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #30 on: May 13th, 2012, 2:37am »
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Binghamton, NY, 1963............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el831at.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #31 on: May 13th, 2012, 2:48am »
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As mentioned earlier, many ex-Pullman troop sleepers became express cars after the War..............
 
http://www.riverraisinmodels.com/troopCars.html
 
http://www.mrrwarehouse.com/troop_car_2.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #32 on: May 13th, 2012, 3:03am »
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NYC's "GREAT LAKES", Geneva, Ohio, 1958........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-great-lake.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #33 on: May 13th, 2012, 9:14am »
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RPO's.........
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/classic/CARdwgs1.html


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #34 on: May 13th, 2012, 9:59am »
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on May 13th, 2012, 1:09am, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"Since much of the old YV right-of-way still exists, have you heard any rumblings or blue-skying about maybe reviving rail service to El Portal?"
 
It would be a real surprise if they would ever seriously consider such... the cost is just way too great to restore the right-of-way and actually lay track.  You are talking about $Millions per mile.

JML -  
 
SIGH! Don't for a second think clearly prohibitive costs can possibly stop the present day rail planner zanies! They are all ISO abundant  
"Free Fed Buck$" for their most imaginative nonsense.
 
On this lovely morning, I must prepare for battle! Onto a real "pro grade" Forum, which encourages the rail zany nonsense. There is a huge  
failure of plain logic in all of it. The highway system provides capabilities in serving any point in the CONUS! Rail cannot, and do not do  
such offers of universal service for all shipments, and possible riders. Besides, the Constitution specifies support of highways and waterways  
as a primary National Purpose.
 
Anything hard to understand about any of it?
 
.........................Vern....................


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #35 on: May 13th, 2012, 10:33am »
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on May 13th, 2012, 12:50am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
SF mail containers at Chicago, 1966......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf00202jpa.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-mc216jpa.jpg

HFM -  
 
In earlier work, we established these twenty (20) ft. boxes were more properly, "Lift Vans" and NOT "Flexi-Vans".  
In era, many motor carriers were going for this, too. CFWY, for example, used somewhat similar 'boxes' on Seattle  
- Alaska Mail runs...
 
With examples shown: Note shipping or receiving yard could work with a heavy rated "fork lift" truck, account the  
slots in the frame of the 'box'.
 
........................Vern...................


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #36 on: May 13th, 2012, 10:40am »
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on May 13th, 2012, 1:57am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
More on rail by mail.
 
........by that point, (1967), many passenger trains still in service were deriving most, if not all, of their revenue from the lucrative government mail contracts.............."
 
http://www.american-rails.com/railway-post-office.html

HFM -  
 
I coulda' made it thru the day nicely had not relied on his opinion, with use of "lucrative"! It was all about some good customers paying fair and negotiated charges.
 
Else, just above? Why, oh, why SFe cars in red?
 
.........................Vern.................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #37 on: May 13th, 2012, 10:50am »
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Vern..........
 
Yes, I had recalled we had discussed these SF vehicles earlier.
 
And, until I had discovered these views, I had no idea that these units ever existed.
 
I am familiar, though, with photos of REA containers in 1960's E-L consists.
 
Early/mid-60's E-L views of piggyback units on passenger trains serve as proof that, ''Yep, that's how it was done, once upon a time!"
 
Cannot conceive of such operations on the rails today!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #38 on: May 13th, 2012, 11:10am »
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More on troop sleepers; as noted earlier, many cars saw service as express cars........
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troop_sleeper


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #39 on: May 13th, 2012, 11:15am »
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Reported locations of surviving RPO's (2006)........
 
http://www.railwaymailservicelibrary.org/RPOLCTNS.htm


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