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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #180 on: May 16th, 2012, 6:03pm »
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Warren, Ohio, 1960......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/erie0855lba.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #181 on: May 16th, 2012, 6:10pm »
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No info given for this 1950's-era ERIE photo; the advertisements on the plaforms suggest  a commuter stop in suburban territory......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/erie853w.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #182 on: May 16th, 2012, 7:25pm »
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A "head-end" scene on the D&H, 1962.
 
At a quick glance, the first D&H car appears to be NYC equipment......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-pax-as.jpg
 
Anoher view of the same train (Sidney, NY)......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-c238s.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #183 on: May 16th, 2012, 7:28pm »
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Another head-end scene on the D&H (Ft. Edward, NY, 1969)......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-trn35-dca.jpg


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jmlaboda
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« Reply #184 on: May 16th, 2012, 8:40pm »
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"At a quick glance, the first D&H car appears to be NYC equipment..."
 
Ah... No.  
 
The car was one of 25 built by the American Car & Foundry in '57 and split between MoPac and GM&O between 1962 and 1964.  Up until the D&H adopted the blue and yellow scheme they had used NYC-inspired TTG on a number of cars, including these baggage - express cars.  Ironically, they were sold because of a decline in head-end traffic.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #185 on: May 16th, 2012, 8:50pm »
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on May 16th, 2012, 8:40pm, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"At a quick glance, the first D&H car appears to be NYC equipment..."
 
Ah... No.  
 
The car was one of 25 built by the American Car & Foundry in '57 and split between MoPac and GM&O between 1962 and 1964.  Up until the D&H adopted the blue and yellow scheme they had used NYC-inspired TTG on a number of cars, including these baggage - express cars.  Ironically, they were sold because of a decline in head-end traffic.

 
Jerry...........
 
Yes, I DID know that said car was NOT a NYC vehicle; I simply made the comment that the paint scheme looked like the NYC's at a quick glance, in the b/w image.
 
Also, appreciate the "stats" you provided..............
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #186 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:03pm »
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In "DELAWARE & HUDSON IN COLOR: VOLUME 2", there are photos of E-L E-8's #'s 816 and 820, which had been leased by the D&H (pics date to 1971).
 
There is also a view of the "LAURENTIAN", snapped in 1969; second car is an E-L car (do not know if car was then owned by the D&H or leased); I cannot make a positive identification of the car, but, it appears similiar to a rebuilt 1000-class coach......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #187 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:14pm »
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Early 60's E-L scene at Binghamton; train on the left is carrying a heavy load of head-end equipment......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/el-pax-bs.jpg


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jmlaboda
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« Reply #188 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:16pm »
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Three of the former ERIE modernized coaches were acquired by the D&H... 1001, 1012 and 1021...
 
http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?january08/01-31-08/d+h1001P.jpg
http://www.thebluecomet.com/dhpasscarscolonie.jpg
http://rrpicturearchives.net/rspicture.aspx?id=425629
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/dh1012.jpg
http://trainweb.org/dhvm/images/dhrr_passenger/UNKNOWN/1021-01.jpg
 
An aside in regards to the baggage cars sold to the GM&O... none were ever painted in the maroon and red and only a couple actually had the GM&O lettering added to the TTG paint.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #189 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:18pm »
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No info on this circa-1930 view of ancient wooden ERIE equipment.........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie-rpo-abd.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #190 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:25pm »
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Jerry:
 
Many thanks!
 
I clearly recall riding similiar coaches to and from Port Jervis (from Hoboken), on long-ago day trips out of Hoboken (Trains #21 and 22).
 
Man, it's all so long ago, now.......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #191 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:30pm »
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See also (ex-DL&W cars, according to captions to links)......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-c31d.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh-c33d.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #192 on: May 16th, 2012, 9:58pm »
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A timeless RPO "on the fly" scene on the NH.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh-postal.jpg


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« Reply #193 on: May 16th, 2012, 10:33pm »
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on May 16th, 2012, 3:15pm, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Clyde -  
 
Yes, but... It was ex post facto, yes?
 
Were I running the Power Desk at E-L, I would not have known this. At the time, I would not have sent the ALCO Power "long"...
(I wouldn't want the bet whether they might get in trouble at Marion, OH?)...
 
............................Vern........................

 
Very ex post facto. But D&H had late model Alcos with 251s in the power pool so up-grading the PAs they bought from Santa Fe made sense (but would probably have been cheaper to buy Es or Fs). Fine looking engines and apparently good performers they turned out to be until D&H droppd passenger.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #194 on: May 16th, 2012, 11:10pm »
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''HEAD END'' motive power on the Milwaukee Road......a most unorthodox FM unit w/ built-in baggage compartment.....
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/milw5900.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #195 on: May 16th, 2012, 11:32pm »
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Two 1950's photos of NKP trains (w/head-end cars), hauled by PA's......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp181alr.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp187abn.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #196 on: May 16th, 2012, 11:37pm »
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All:
 
Operator's manual for NKP PA-1's.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nkp/nkp-pa-om.html


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Norm_Anderson
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Re: "HEAD END/DEAD END"
 
« Reply #197 on: May 17th, 2012, 12:50am »
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on May 16th, 2012, 11:10pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
''HEAD END'' motive power on the Milwaukee Road......a most unorthodox FM unit w/ built-in baggage compartment.....
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/milw5900.jpg

 
 
Hmmmmm . . . we could call it . . . the FM "BaggageMaster" . . .
 
'course, in 2010, Amtrak was reading from the same book . . .
 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2114631
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #198 on: May 17th, 2012, 1:05am »
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"THE BEAST AMONGST US".........
 
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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #199 on: May 17th, 2012, 1:22am »
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See also.....
 
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http://rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk90219ana.jpg


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