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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #80 on: May 8th, 2012, 5:20pm »
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Check out this WW2-era video, "LOADED FOR WAR"; in conjunction with other railroads, the SF came out with this film highlighting the railroad's War efforts.....
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F3-Pf78dEQ


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #81 on: May 8th, 2012, 5:29pm »
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A good related SF model page..........
 
http://trainweb.org/fredatsf/troop1.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #82 on: May 8th, 2012, 6:17pm »
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Not surprising at all that the SF played the largest role in the operation of the biggest troop movement of WW2 (800 Pullmans were involved)
 
This is truly an outstanding tale of "guts 'n glory" on the rails..........
 
http://cwrr.com/Lounge/Stories/troops/troops.html


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #83 on: May 8th, 2012, 11:14pm »
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on May 8th, 2012, 3:40pm, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"This car even had a name once... and sister car 1304 was named Chief Manakaja."
 
The 1303 is in fact 1304 Chief Manakaia.  It was renumbered 1351 in 2/39, loosing its name at that time, and then renumbered again to 1303 with no name in 1/49.  This is all detailed on the page for the car...
http://www.sdrm.org/roster/passenger/lo-1304/index.html

 
Jerry, please let me add my thanks to Mr. Malone's for weighing in here.  Thanks, too, for correcting the spelling of Chief Manakaia.  I learn something, pretty much every time you post.
 
As an aside to Mr. Malone, books about Santa Fe passenger service are in abundance.  In my view the best, most readable treatment of Santa Fe's lightweight varnish, by far, is Karl Zimmermann's Santa Fe Streamliners: The Chiefs and Their Tribesmen (New York: Quadrant Press, 1987).  Stan Repp's Super Chief: Train of The Stars (San Marino, Calif.: Golden West Publications, 1970) is a superb, fine-toothed-comb treatment of that particular train through the years; but for a general overview (with lots of choice photos), I've never read anything that equals Mr. Zimmermann's effort.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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ClydeDET
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Re: Bed 'n Breakfast AT&SF-style
 
« Reply #84 on: May 8th, 2012, 11:26pm »
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on May 8th, 2012, 11:14pm, Norm_Anderson wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Jerry, please let me add my thanks to Mr. Malone's for weighing in here.  Thanks, too, for correcting the spelling of Chief Manakaia.  I learn something, pretty much every time you post.
 
As an aside to Mr. Malone, books about Santa Fe passenger service are in abundance.  In my view the best, most readable treatment of Santa Fe's lightweight varnish, by far, is Karl Zimmermann's Santa Fe Streamliners: The Chiefs and Their Tribesmen (New York: Quadrant Press, 1987).  Stan Repp's Super Chief: Train of The Stars (San Marino, Calif.: Golden West Publications, 1970) is a superb, fine-toothed-comb treatment of that particular train through the years; but for a general overview (with lots of choice photos), I've never read anything that equals Mr. Zimmermann's effort.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm

 
+1+ for Norm on that recommendation. I have both books (among others) in my collection and Zimmerman is (unless you are looking for the last detail on the Super) more useful. Because of its much wider coverage.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #85 on: May 9th, 2012, 2:23am »
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Gentlemen:
 
To date, the only book I have in my archives that deals with SF passenger operations is "SANTA FE RAILWAY PHOTO archive", bY John Kelly.
 
This outstanding work is a MUST for anyone with an interest in SF passenger operations.......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #86 on: May 9th, 2012, 2:57am »
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SF's "PLEASURE DOMES"..........
 
http://www.trainweb.org/web_lurker/ATSF/


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #87 on: May 9th, 2012, 3:05am »
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See also.....
 
http://www.theblueparrot.info/the-pleasure-dome/


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #88 on: May 9th, 2012, 3:10am »
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Also of interest......
 
http://willoughbyjunction.com/?p=99


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #89 on: May 9th, 2012, 10:58am »
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LA, August, 1980.
 
Ex-SF car (inset) was still in service at the time; vandalized sister car, however, awaited her fate at the 7th Avenue yards..........
 
http://www.umcycling.com/xsfdomeww.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #90 on: May 9th, 2012, 11:04am »
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Several interior views of "PLEASURE DOME" #503..........
 
http://www.gp30.com/dome503/


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #91 on: May 9th, 2012, 11:20am »
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Restored heavyweight diner #1509 at San Diego, 1979.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-d1509cwa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #92 on: May 9th, 2012, 11:58am »
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Austin, Texas, 1973..........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ca1511csb.jpg


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Norm_Anderson
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Re: Bed 'n Breakfast AT&SF-style
 
« Reply #93 on: May 9th, 2012, 12:23pm »
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on May 9th, 2012, 11:04am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Several interior views of "PLEASURE DOME" #503..........
 
http://www.gp30.com/dome503/

 
 
These are great photos of the interior of Plaza Santa Fe-- and clearly show the level of care and upkeep she has received.  The owners have obviously put great effort into retaining the car's original Super Chief ambience.  Noble work, indeed.
 
The photos in post #91 above (of the vandalized Pleasure Dome in the LA Coach Yards) is heartbreaking.  The good news is that all six of these cars have escaped the scrapper's torch, and are still sitting on rails in 2012.  They are now sixty-two years old . . .
 
I had the pleasure of riding in a Pleasure Dome (ex- #502) on the Coast Starlight both directions between Los Angeles and Portland, Oregon in April of 1980.  I can fully attest to their incredibly smooth ride (even on SP roadbed!).
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #94 on: May 9th, 2012, 12:29pm »
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Norm......
 
This is wonderful news, indeed!
 
Cars as handsome and as historic as these are FAR TOO FINE to recycle into beer cans and razor blades!
 
If it's SANTA FE............it is MORE than worth whatever is involved to preserve them for future generations.................
 
"H.F.M."


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« Reply #95 on: May 9th, 2012, 12:46pm »
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on May 9th, 2012, 12:29pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Norm......
 
This is wonderful news, indeed!
 
Cars as handsome and as historic as these are FAR TOO FINE to recycle into beer cans and razor blades!
 
If it's SANTA FE............it is MORE than worth whatever is involved to preserve them for future generations.................
 
"H.F.M."

 
Certainly can't argue against that sentiment. If i had the dollars to manage the stunt, i'd recreate a Texas Chief. Have to decide if  c.1966 (last time i rode the "real" Texas Chief) or maybe mid-1950s (when we would go to Galveston when Dad was going to or coming from Washington Nat'l Ins. Co. Convention in Chicago or we were going to or coming from Waco -train to  MacGregor, relatives in a car from/to Waco proper - while we lived in Texas City)would be the choice.  I gues both if the money was there - maybe the 1955 version AND the Dallas section c.1966...
 
Then to find a way to run them on the min-lines....


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #96 on: May 9th, 2012, 1:30pm »
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Clyde:
 
If you and I (and, of course, our good friend Norm) were to "join forces" in the rail sector, we'd be running one helluva railroad!
 
Our "Business" train would indeed highlight the finest of both the SF and the NH......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #97 on: May 9th, 2012, 1:49pm »
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Grand Canyon, 1965........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-pulrv-alr.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #98 on: May 9th, 2012, 1:57pm »
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A little bit of everything on this page (steam/diesel/passenger/electric, etc.)
 
Be sure to scroll all the way through; there are a number of excellent views of preserved SF passenger equipment..........
 
http://azrymuseum.org/roster/roster.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #99 on: May 9th, 2012, 2:09pm »
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A rare piece of history from 1884........
 
http://www.kansasmemory.org/item/1441


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