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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #80 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 12:10am »
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Norm/All:
 
Photo page on the early days of E-L's new push-pull trainsets; top photo shows some of the ex-SF cars wearing NJDOT heralds........
 
"H.F.M."
 
http://viewoftheblue.com/photography/u34ch_units.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #81 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 12:22am »
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On a somewhat related note, the caption for this photo tells us that this "looks to be" an ex-SANTA FE diner*, near Lebanon, NJ, back in 1998......
 
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/NonELprototype/LebanonNJ2-98stainlesssteeldiningcar1.JPG
 
*Additional research found another site, which states that this car is NOT a diner, but a 6DBR lounge......


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #82 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 12:47am »
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LIRR lightweight parlor "TUCKAPAUSHA" (#2072) was built by ACF in 1949 as a club-lounge (#6027) for the UP ("PAYETTE RIVER").
 
The car was aquired by the LIRR in 1969.
 
Note photo of car in consist with ex-PRR and NH equipment.....
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/tuckapausha.html
 
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #83 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 12:58am »
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Another ex-UP car that went east for LIRR parlor service was "WEBER RIVER" ( #6208 ), built by ACF in 1949 as a club-lounge.
 
It was converted to a lounge in 1959, and was aquired by the LIRR in 1969, then renamed "TUCKAHOE" (#2073)........
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/tuckahoe.html


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« Reply #84 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 1:18am »
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"On a somewhat related note, the caption for this photo tells us that this "looks to be" an ex-SANTA FE diner, near Lebanon, NJ, back in 1998......"
 
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/NonELprototype/LebanonNJ2-98stainlesssteeldiningcar1.JPG
 
That is a former NYC Budd 6 double bedroom - lounge car.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #85 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 1:32am »
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on Apr 9th, 2012, 1:18am, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"On a somewhat related note, the caption for this photo tells us that this "looks to be" an ex-SANTA FE diner, near Lebanon, NJ, back in 1998......"
 
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/NonELprototype/LebanonNJ2-98stainlesssteeldiningcar1.JPG
 
That is a former NYC Budd 6 double bedroom - lounge car.

 
Jerry....
 
See how conflicting web sources can be?
 
Indeed, it takes one like yourself "in the know" to "set the record straight".....
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #86 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 2:00am »
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LIRR lightweight parlor "PECONIC" (#2053), built in 1940 by P-S, PRR's "HEMLOCK FALLS" (#8133), 6 DBR/buffet-lounge.
 
As of 2009, the rusting, vandalized hulk of this car sill survives in Mississippi.......
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/peconic.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #87 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 2:12am »
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LIRR's "MASTIC" (#2050), aquired in 1968; ex-KCS "WILLIAM EDENBORN", built by P-S in 1948 (14 roomette/4 DBR)........
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/mastic.html
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/kcs/kcs-pwe-m.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #88 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 10:54am »
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LIRR heavyweight open-plaform parlor "JAMAICA".
 
Built by P-S in 1916 (as business car "NEVADA NORTHERN"), car was sold to the DL&W in 1935 and renamed "ANTHRACITE", later "SCRANTON".
 
Sold by the E-L in 1962 to the LIRR; car was used until the mid-70's......
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/heavyweight_jamaica99.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #89 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 7:09pm »
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Penn Central #2148, built by P-S; (ex-NYC #2660), rebuilt to 108 seat commuter coach configuration from 56-seat coach.....
 
http://photos.greatrails.net/showpic/?2009030219391310673.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #90 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 7:19pm »
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Ex-SANTA FE coach (Budd), assigned to the NY&LB, seen here at the Bay Head yards, in a Penn Central consist...........
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=114304


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #91 on: Apr 9th, 2012, 7:30pm »
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Ex-PC coach #2422 (ex-SANTA FE #3137), 100 seat commuter coach, rebuilt from 52 seat coach.
 
Car is seen here "landlocked" at Knoxville, Tennesee (2009).......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=234820


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« Reply #92 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 1:52pm »
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on Apr 9th, 2012, 2:00am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
LIRR lightweight parlor "PECONIC" (#2053), built in 1940 by P-S, PRR's "HEMLOCK FALLS" (#8133), 6 DBR/buffet-lounge.
 
As of 2009, the rusting, vandalized hulk of this car sill survives in Mississippi.......
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/peconic.html

 
 Pretty sad state. I note that in ther 1976 shot it was showing some rust, suggesting it wasn't being well taken care of by LIRR even then. Also illustrates why P-S wasn't as good an idea as Budd,,,,


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« Reply #93 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 1:55pm »
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on Apr 9th, 2012, 7:30pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Ex-PC coach #2422 (ex-SANTA FE #3137), 100 seat commuter coach, rebuilt from 52 seat coach.
 
Car is seen here "landlocked" at Knoxville, Tennesee (2009).......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/rsPicture.aspx?id=234820

 
It is to be noted that, unlike the P-S car of similar vintage, this one isn't rusting.


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on Apr 9th, 2012, 12:22am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
On a somewhat related note, the caption for this photo tells us that this "looks to be" an ex-SANTA FE diner*, near Lebanon, NJ, back in 1998......
 
http://www.20thcenturyhobbies.com/trainnut/NonELprototype/LebanonNJ2-98stainlesssteeldiningcar1.JPG
 
*Additional research found another site, which states that this car is NOT a diner, but a 6DBR lounge......

 
 
Well, it is a Budd car, but looks like no Santa Fe Budd-built lightweight diner i am familiar with. The 6DBR-lounge ID looks good, though.


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on Apr 9th, 2012, 7:19pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Ex-SANTA FE coach (Budd), assigned to the NY&LB, seen here at the Bay Head yards, in a Penn Central consist...........
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=114304

 
Interesting picture - look at the car coupled to the vestibule end: definitely a stainless steel Budd car, but the fluting has been stripped both above and below the pier panel.


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on Apr 10th, 2012, 2:05pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Interesting picture - look at the car coupled to the vestibule end: definitely a stainless steel Budd car, but the fluting has been stripped both above and below the pier panel.

 
Clyde:
 
Yep!
 
Back in the day, there was a wonderful variety of equipment to be found on the NY&LB, on both CNJ and P-C trains.
 
Assorted slab-sided and corrugated streamlined cars (including an ex-FEC obs!) and heavyweight CNJ coaches.......these consits were MORE than colorful, to say the least.....so much "Fallen Flag" heritage at the time!
 
I've read that there was often a problem with water gathering underneath the corrugated sides on a number of cars, throughout their service lives, on various roads.
 
Indeed, a fine show on the NY&LB, while it all lasted.....
 
"H.F.M."


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« Reply #97 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 3:15pm »
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"...but the fluting has been stripped both above and! below the pier panel."
 
Actually that car never had corrugation.  Its a former Pennsy Budd 21 Roomette car converted to a coach.  No corrugation above the window, slab panels below...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2853874


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« Reply #98 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 3:20pm »
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Here is what they looked like before being converted to coaches...
http://www.prrths.com/PRR_Images/roomette.jpg
 
A number of these cars survive on tourist operations.
 
Another rebuild were ex-N&W Budd 10-6 cars that PRR rebuilt to coaches as well...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2682225
 
These cars were built with a smooth letterboard and no corrugation nor slabs below the window... a true smooth sided Budd car.


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« Reply #99 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 3:26pm »
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For me, at least, this may be the most interesting thread on the website...I had no idea. Growing up in Chattanooga, I never saw an observation car (or a dome), save for one in St. Louis Union Station around 1961...what train, I have no idea.

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