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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #780 on: May 5th, 2012, 1:23pm »
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Roster of NH heavyweight Pullmans and parlor cars.........
 
http://www.faracresfarm.com/jbvb/rr/nhrr/nh_pass.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #781 on: May 5th, 2012, 1:28pm »
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Of related interest..........
 
http://www.nhrhta.org/htdocs/images0108.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #782 on: May 5th, 2012, 1:51pm »
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A long way from Cos Cob......
 
http://gelwood.railfan.net/nh/nh-bc00csa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #783 on: May 5th, 2012, 5:20pm »
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"GROVE BEACH" at Columbia, PA, 2009.....
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1805310


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« Reply #784 on: May 12th, 2012, 2:20pm »
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RDC conversions on the "T" in Boston.

http://Forums.Railfan.net/Images/PassengerTrains/MTA_exRDC_coach_rebuild_Boston_Mass_1085.jpg
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« Reply #785 on: May 12th, 2012, 2:21pm »
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Also, unpowered otherwise unaltered RDC's pulled by diesels.

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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #786 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 10:15pm »
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All:
 
Not sure if this was touched upon earlier here........
 
Up until the ConRail takeover (and even for a brief time following), the E-L ran a minor commuter operation out of Cleveland (Trains #'s 28 and 29).
 
Originally an ERIE operation, Stillwell coaches were used, until being replaced by rebuilt through-line heavyweights.
 
Later in the 60's, these cars were themselves replaced by several ex-PHOEBE SNOW lightweights.
 
Certainly a comedown for stylish equipment that once graced the DL&W's most posh through train......


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #787 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 10:28pm »
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Two views of E-L's Cleveland commuter trains, after being refurbished with ex-PHOEBE SNOW coaches......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el833h.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el833bge.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #788 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 10:31pm »
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Another view at Cleveland, when rebuilt heavyweight equipment was being used......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el823age.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #789 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 10:36pm »
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Also of interest (from 1964).......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/clesch.html


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jmlaboda
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« Reply #790 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 10:42pm »
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This shot predates Conrail, which was not started until April 1976... (photo dated Jan 76)
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el833bge.jpg
 
This shot is EL Train 27, not a commuter train... I have never seen any shots of the Erie modernized cars on commuter trains...
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el823age.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #791 on: Jul 1st, 2012, 11:05pm »
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on Jul 1st, 2012, 10:42pm, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)

This shot predates Conrail, which was not started until April 1976... (photo dated Jan 76)
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el833bge.jpg
 
This shot is EL Train 27, not a commuter train... I have never seen any shots of the Erie modernized cars on commuter trains...
http://rr-fallenflags.org/el/loco/el823age.jpg

 
Jerry:
 
Thanks.......
 
So #27 wasn't a COMMUTER train.....then, that makes TWO of us that have never seen any photos of ex-ERIE rebuilt cars on the Cleveland commuter runs.
 
The most I've ever read on this operation was from "ERIE LACKAWANNA: DEATH OF AN AMERICAN RAILROAD", by H. Rodger GRant..
 
The E-L was losing more than $200,000 annually on these trains.
 
According to the text here, these runs carried few paying passengers; most riders were E-L employees riding on complimentry passes......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #792 on: Jul 2nd, 2012, 10:52am »
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More on E-L's Cleveland commuter operation (text from aforementioned book)......
 
"........the Erie-Lackawanna had long battled the PUC of Ohio (PUCO) to end this annual financial drain of more than $200,000, but with no success. It failed to recieve meaningful rate increases or permission to cancel the trains......."
 
".........the railroad encountered the formidable political clout of both the affulent village of Aurora, 23 miles from Cleveland and the home of many of its riders, and its own workers, who manipulated the regulatory process to their advantage. But PUCO rejected abandonment until after the death of the Erie-Lackawanna......."
 
"H.F.M."


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