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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #660 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 9:28pm »
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Another view, this one from 1977......
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67781


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #661 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 9:39pm »
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The LIRR, "Route Of The Turbonauts".....
 
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/images/lirrurbonautpass1966.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #662 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 9:49pm »
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Notes on the LIRR gas-turbine-electric units of the 1970's:
 
The LIRR had two versions, built by GE and GARRETT.
 
Only 8 of the M-1's were built/modified in this way......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #663 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 9:59pm »
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A wintry scene at the LIRR's Morris Park yards, 1978.....
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67778


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #664 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 10:04pm »
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Date these views to 1977.......
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67782
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67783


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #665 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 10:18pm »
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Interesting discussion on the LIRR gas-turbine-electrics....
 
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=13111&sart=45


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #666 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 11:55pm »
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Whaddaya get when an RDC forgets to duck while passing under the wing of a B-52??
 
I don't know either, but they called it M-497 . . .
 
 
"Mr. Boeing!!  Mr Boeing!!  Here!!  You forgot your engines!!!"
 
 
http://www.darkroastedblend.com/2007/01/jet-powered-other-futuristic-trains.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #667 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 12:38am »
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Norm:
 
"BEAM ME UP, SCOTTY!"
 
"TO BOLDLY GO WHERE NO OTHER RDC HAS GONE BEFORE!"
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nyc/nyc-m497bll.jpg
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_nycM497.jpg
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_nycM497b.jpg


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« Reply #668 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:09am »
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Just found this little gem on YouTube:
 
From two years ago (March, 2010)-- through the good graces of the B&O Museum in Baltimore, former B&O RDC #9913 is here running on lease to the Fayette Central Railroad in Uniontown, Pennsylvania.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGKEc4R4OI
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #669 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:11am »
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LIRR, Republic, 1977.
 
Note that these gas-turbine-electrics, unlike a standard M-1 electric, also have stepwells for low-level platform boarding.
 
These cars, unlike their electric cousins, could both load at low and high level plaforms.
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67779


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #670 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:19am »
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LIRR GTE equipment outside the Shea Stadium maintainence shed, 1975 (again, note stepwells)......
 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1067765


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #671 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:27am »
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GTE set passing through grade crossing at Grumman, 1977.......
 
http://davesrailpix.com/lirr/htm/lirr069.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #672 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:38am »
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LIRR Test Car G-2 at Ronkonkama, late 60's.....
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/lirr/htm/lirr005.htm
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #673 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 1:48am »
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Optimism knew no bounds back in 1966......
 
http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/11/24/due-this-year-trains-that-can-go-150-mph/


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #674 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 7:43am »
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on Apr 30th, 2012, 1:09am, Norm_Anderson wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just found this little gem on YouTube:
 
From two years ago (March, 2010)-- through the good graces of the B&O Museum in Baltimore, former B&O RDC #9913 is here running on lease to the Fayette Central Railroad in Uniontown, Pennsylvania.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzGKEc4R4OI    

NORM - All -  
 
Great Find! This one is much fun! It is a re-enactment of scenes on branch lines, all over the US, of RDC and Gas-Electric runs...
 
RDC units have always sounded like GREYHOUND busses! Same, family relative motors. So many of the branch line runs, nothing  
much happened very fast, either! Notable, too, here, the adept way the RDC can handle less than perfect track. On this video,  
scenes where the track clearly isn't up to higher speed use. Note how the RDC rocks thru it, swaying with track imperfections...
 
B & O worked closely with at least a couple of our local rail oriented groups. The line welcomed charters wherein the RDC equipment  
authorized onto branches that lacked regular passenger services for ages. (I vaguely seem to recall a possible trip, with RDCs,  
Baltimore - Relay - Weverton - Hagerstown.)
 
...........................Vern........................


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #675 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 9:14am »
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Vern, my respect for YouTube is growing evry day . . .
 
I think you'll enjoy this one.
 
Looks to be a "newsreel" (probably shown in movie theaters as part of the preliminaries before the Feature Film got under way).  It showcases mid-20th-Century passenger railroading in general, the contributions of The Budd Company in particular, and then zeroes-in on Budd's newest entry in the fight to keep passenger service profitable-- the RDC.  Full of early-50s optimism, it's titled "Clear Iron."
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGP8EI8aY9g
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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« Reply #676 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 9:28am »
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And, back to M-497 for a moment--
 
Here (without sound, unfortunately) is film of the M-497's construction and test run in July 1966.  Thanks to YouTube and this video, I discovered that M-497 was far from being a harebrained idea. This was a sober scientific experiment, to see how high-speed trains would perform on conventional jointed rail.  They wanted to measure the dynamics and forces of speeds in excess of 200mph.  Trouble was, nothing they had was capable of speeds in excess of 200mph.  So, being good scientists and engineers, they improvised.  It seems the only passengers M-497 ever carried were all wearing lab coats (and hard hats!).
 
My favorite scene is near the end, where the test run is being "paced" from the adjoining highway, and though there's no sound and no telltale smoke, you can definitely see the moment of throttle-up . . .
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pB-PGnF-B0
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm
 


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« Reply #677 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 9:59am »
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NORM -  
 
YouTube? Yes, indeed! Its library just keeps expanding...
 
Some of the favorites I have located include: Yes, one can experience, at least on the screen, what is was like to:  
1) Ride a GREYHOUND SCENICRUISER. Better clips include all the motor sounds, and driver hitting the shift points right.  
2) Ride a road truck of the era, choice of motors. Good one on file featuring a DETROIT motor, and the thirteen speed shift  
of the time. I have watched enough, I can guess the man's shift points, over a climbing, winding "old road" in Virginia...
 
.........................Vern..........................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #678 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 10:26am »
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All:
 
I've long thought of the long-gone NH "Washboard" MU's as "honorary Budds"; with their shining fluted sides, it was quite easy to think of a Budd product, IMHO.
 
These handsome cars were built by P-S, and entered service in 1954, on the NH's commuter lines out of GC.
 
Certainly, NH commuters appreciated the soothing comforts of new-fangled a/c, on those stifling summer days!
 
Unlike the ancient, ex-NH "Mutt" heavyweight MU's, which served for several decades, the sleek "Washboards" did not enjoy a long service life on the NH lines.
 
Most were in storage by 1976, after the arrival of the second order of M-2 units (built by GE, with BUDD subassemblies).
 
There had been talk of rebuilding some of these cars into unpowered push-pull coaches, but nothing ever came of this.
 
20 years old for a commuter car was but mere adolescence, in our day....
 
"H.F.M."
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/nh/nh-mu0asw.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #679 on: Apr 30th, 2012, 10:36am »
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Several more views of the NH "Washboards".......
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?76595
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?42066
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?127707
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?46651


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