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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #620 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:59pm »
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Recalling the classic "DMU" (Diesel Multiple Unit) of Great Britain; the last of the original stock were retired after being in service for nearly 50 years.....
 
http://www.llangollenrailcars.com/
 
http://www.ask.com/wiki/British_Rail_Class_101


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #621 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:37am »
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See also......
 
http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/dmulist.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #622 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:41am »
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Preserved DMU's from Scotland.....
 
http://www.srpsmuseum.org.uk/munitshome.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #623 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:48am »
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Well-done photo gallery showcasing preserved DMU's.....
 
http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/gb/diesel/dmu-heritage/101/BR-green/pix.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #624 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 2:49am »
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The sleek "FLYING HAMBURGER" from Germany, which entered service in 1933......
 
http://mikes.railhistory.railfan.net/r033.html
 
http://www.ask.com/wiki/DRG_Class_SVT_877


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #625 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 8:42am »
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GEORGE -  
 
Yours, Reply #606 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 5:44pm
 
Absent a fine collection of Official Guide issues here, it leaves me guessing what ROCK ISLAND did exactly, between Memphis and Amarillo.  
There are websites up explaining the earlier Chocktaw Rocket. There is a presumption MEM - AMA would have needed two car sets, to support  
whatever REA and US Mail obligations? Passenger rider count couldn't have been all that significant, in later operation?
 
As you mentioned, line West of Little Rock runs some "rolling countryside" terrain. IIRC, on my own travel "IH-40 all the way" journeys, noted  
the change in terrain between a point East of Okla City, and Little Rock. West of OKC, Rock Island (and highway) not all that daunting.
 
Read with interest your comment there were stretches of the track, with signal system concerns also experienced on lengths of B & O. The  
latter most wary of single cars, and would not operate in that manner.
 
To date, I can't recall if I have seen any "RDC + Trailer" Photos at Amarillo. The references presently on websites usually at Memphis. And,
a bit related, the "stock" Photo of the "modernized" B & O Gas- electric with coach trailer, usually the view at Mt. Airy, MD. It was the "Local"  
which ran BAL - Mt. Airy until 1948. Notably, two cars!
 
The fairly scarce B & O view, same car, posted here. Photo reports relocation of the car itself, another Gas - Electric, and two baggage cars,  
at end of service on Ohio Locals.
 
.............................Vern........................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #626 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 9:39am »
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All:
 
As is quite obvious, the subject of various types of self-propelled rail cars is indeed a rich study unto itself, full of many surprises and hidden treasures.
 
The often-cranky, cantankerous McKeen was the grandaddy of the sleek RDC of the 1950's, which, of course, remains one of the greatest success stories in American railroad history.
 
The RDC differed from its ancestors in that it was designed with MU operation right from the get-go, unlike the ancient McKeens and "doodlebugs", which either served as one-car trains, or, hauling trailers and other non-powered equipment.
 
Though, of course, the RDC operated "solo" on many lines, it was its MU capabilities that really made it shine, enabling both single-car and multiple-unit operations, on both rural branch lines and busy main lines.
 
Doodlebugs or RDC's......we've certainly seen many variations of these types of rail cars, from passenger (or baggage) only, to passanger-mail-baggage configurations.
 
Again, the versatility of such units was almost unlimited.
 
For cash-strapped roads, rail car operations was a sensible, economical solution to an expensive problem, but, here again, it was no miraculous "cure all", as, even with rail car operation, many branches closed down, simply too uneconomic to operate, even considering the savings garnered by the use of rail cars, over locomotive-hauled trains.
 
In this discussion we've seen equipment both commonplace and rare, workaday and borderline bizarre, cars that, quite often, reflected the ingenuity of engergetic management and shop crews, to "customize" equipment to best suit their own particular needs.
 
A most fascinating chapter in American railroading.....
 
"H.F.M."
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #627 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 11:49am »
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"Best & Only", preserved.........
 
http://www.flickr.com/redarrow101/6939862953/


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #628 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 11:53am »
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New Haven history at the Danbury Railway Museum......
 
http://www.budd-rdc.org/sets/drm-Jun04.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #629 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 12:02pm »
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CN #1501, now a Track Geometry Vehicle.....
 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/locoPicture.aspx?id=123233


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #630 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 12:47pm »
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Lewis & Clark Explorer; good historical info on this page.....
 
http://myweb.msoe.edu/~westr/explorer.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #631 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 12:51pm »
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RDC virtual tour.......
 
http://www.sisterbetty.org/rdc/index.htm


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« Reply #632 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:30pm »
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on Apr 29th, 2012, 12:51pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
RDC virtual tour.......
 
http://www.sisterbetty.org/rdc/index.htm

HFM -  
 
Classic! One just hasta' love the Interior Views of BC-11 RDC! The somewhat kitschy valances above the windows.  
The curtained doorway seen. This wasn't a B & O Car!
 
Then, the Video clip with sounds! Yes, the RDC units always sounded like GREYHOUND Coaches!  
 
.......................Vern......................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #633 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:47pm »
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Vern.....
 
Yes, the RDC's did indeed have a smooth, mellow sound that took one back to the era of classic GM coaches!
 
Their horns (at least those used on the CNJ units) I recall being most memorable, sounding much like a cross between a lovelorn moose and a dyspeptic goose!<G>
 
Ironic that these humble cars were so successful, and the "new generation" units (the SPV's) were the exact opposite, as cranky and cantankerous as the early McKeens!
 
Again, "if it ain't broke, DON'T fix it".........
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #634 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:54pm »
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"RDC on steroids"......the SPV.....
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_spv2000.jpg
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=94066
 
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=93287


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #635 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 1:57pm »
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See also.....
 
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=42341


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« Reply #636 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 2:38pm »
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on Apr 29th, 2012, 1:54pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"RDC on steroids"......the SPV.....
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/tr_spv2000.jpg

HFM -  
 
Ummm... How to say this without offending the sensitive? Compare the later product with original RDC.  
The record shows, IIRC, there was "outside needless meddling" in later design...
 
Recall how well this worked when same strategy burdened upon GM Truck & Coach Division? Design by  
Committee tactics are just great!
 
...........................Vern.....................


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #637 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 4:25pm »
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Vern......
 
Again, concur fully!
 
Why there was such a pressing need to "improve upon" such a successful, proven design is totally beyond my realm.
 
Is it any wonder, then, that "new and improved" turned out to be such a waste of money?
 
Like the GMC coaches of that era, the RDC's could have kept on soldiering on, with regular upkeep......most certainly still being able to prove their legendary reliabilty, unlike thier "mod" succesors......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #638 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 4:30pm »
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Aaaahhhhh, hype!
 
Always a surefire method to woo the gullible......<G>
 
http://www.flickr.com/etmccaus/6791332290/in/photostream


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #639 on: Apr 29th, 2012, 4:34pm »
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SPV= Seldom Powered Vehicle.......<G>
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jonlewis/3431994791/


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