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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #560 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 10:59pm »
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All:
 
Was lucky to come across this interesting page, a gas-electric car manual (w/photos, schematics, etc.)......
 
http://gelwood.railfan.net/manual/ge-ge-om.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #561 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 12:05am »
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"Mixed train" doodlebug.....
 
Many years ago, the L&HR operated a lone BRILL doodlebug (similiar to the PRR unit seen in the following link), starting in 1928.
 
M1 took over Trains 3 and 8, the Maybrook-to-Easton mixed, and the only one running the entire length of the line.
 
Within a year, the mixed was cut back to Greycourt.
 
The car's operation over the line was short-lived, as it was involved in a fiery collision with a truck in 1931.
 
The resulting explosion resulted in the big car being reduced to a twisted, charred hulk.
 
Thankfully, no lives were lost.
 
The mixed continued to run with steam until it was discontinued west of Waldwick in 1934.
 
http://www.davesrailpix.com/prr/htm/bvpr255.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #562 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 12:14am »
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An interesting photo (w/minimal info) that I just came across.....
 
Here we see a RDG (unknown manufacturer) unit at North Hackensack, NJ.
 
This area was the domain of the ERIE and the NYS&W, so seeing a RDG car such as this around these parts was a rare sight, indeed.
 
Note, too, that the car appears to be OOS.......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/rdg4071.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #563 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 12:44am »
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Articulated units (no manufacturer given) from CN; these unusual cars had been rebuilt into unpowered trailers, by the time of these photos.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn15773jpa.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn15774jpa.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #564 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 1:11am »
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Mid/late 50's view of a M&StL unit hauling a BUDD coach (no further info available)......
 
http://www.cnwhs.org/memberphotos/albums/userpics/10007/Gas-Elect-Albia-50_s.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #565 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 2:13am »
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1960 photo of CP #9003; note sleeper "CHATEAU" behind the express reefer......
 
http://www.mountainrailway.com/Roster%20Archive/CP%209000B/CP%209003.htm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #566 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 2:58am »
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No caption info available on this ACF unit ("US NAVAL AMMUNTION DEPOT")......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/usn-mr0asw.jpg


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #567 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 8:47am »
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on Apr 28th, 2012, 2:58am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
No caption info available on this ACF unit ("US NAVAL AMMUNTION DEPOT")......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/acfx/usn-mr0asw.jpg

HFM -  
 
You could chase this some more, you know. I can't recall which USNAD ran this Car. Seems to me I have seen various other notes.  
I just don't have any time to do the digging around on this many decades ago event...
 
...........................Vern.....................


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on Apr 27th, 2012, 10:59pm, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...Was lucky to come across this interesting page, a gas-electric car manual (w/photos, schematics, etc.)......
 
http://gelwood.railfan.net/manual/ge-ge-om.html

HFM -  
 
"Interesting"? An understatement! It is a superb piece of engineering and marketing writing, tightly organized and flows well.  
A vignette of the considerations of eighty-five (85) years back. A "Lost Civilization"?
 
Here, we can note attractions of the Motor Cars. Operating Labor costs much lower than a conventional train. Much lower  
expense requirements of regular upkeep, repair and shops time. Note the "roll call" of lines running the Cars. For the most  
part, a solution to branch line problems.
 
..........................Vern.......................
 
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #569 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 10:27am »
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on Apr 28th, 2012, 8:58am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

HFM -  
 
"Interesting"? An understatement! It is a superb piece of engineering and marketing writing, tightly organized and flows well.  
A vignette of the considerations of eighty-five (85) years back. A "Lost Civilization"?
 
Here, we can note attractions of the Motor Cars. Operating Labor costs much lower than a conventional train. Much lower  
expense requirements of regular upkeep, repair and shops time. Note the "roll call" of lines running the Cars. For the most  
part, a solution to branch line problems.
 
..........................Vern.......................
 
 

 
Vern.....
 
Indeed, I was most fortunate to come across this rare piece; a superb old document, loaded with so much of great value, regarding the "nitty gritty" of these once-commonplace units!
 
Without a doubt, these humble machines were at their best on the branches and secondary lines; it is most difficult to find a source that does not tell you of the economic virtues of these cars, over locomotive-hauled consists.
 
I, myself, have been riding my reserarch to be most educational; for instance, until last night, I had no idea that "doodlebugs" ever hauled trains with sleepers in the mix!
 
It's all so long ago, now.......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #570 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 10:43am »
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For whatever reason, I've found myself becoming quite infatuated with vintage photos depicting doodlebugs and RDC's hauling streamlined equipment.<G>
 
This Rock Island RDC-3 is here pulling one such conveyance, the "BEAR LAKE" (coach)......
 
http://www.condrenrails.com/MRP/LAM-2006/RI9002.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #571 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:03am »
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The B&O wasn't known as "The BEST & ONLY" for nothing......<G>
 
This was CLASS, my friends..........
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo6041.jpg


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« Reply #572 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:09am »
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This, stubby arch-roof CN gas-electric trailer reminds one of Lionel's classic postwar "027" passenger line, sans passenger silhouettes in the windows.....<G>
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn-C02jpd.jpg


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« Reply #573 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:14am »
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Another "stubby" CN trailer, this one a combo......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn-C01jpd.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #574 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:21am »
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Streamlined CN unit which hauled the trailers seen in previous photos (no info given on this car).......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn-d1jpc.jpg


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« Reply #575 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:28am »
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on Apr 28th, 2012, 10:43am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...For whatever reason, I've found myself becoming quite infatuated with vintage photos depicting doodlebugs and RDC's hauling streamlined equipment.<G>
 
This Rock Island RDC-3 is here pulling one such conveyance, the "BEAR LAKE" (coach)......
 
http://www.condrenrails.com/MRP/LAM-2006/RI9002.jpg

HFM -  
 
Here we go, again! Some time back, we established BUDD did not approve of RDC Cars pulling any trailers.  
IMHO, it had concerns the loads exceeded design weights of parts of the drive train mechanisms.
 
ROCK ISLAND "had a pass" with it. The line where used between Memphis and Amarillo. Check the "Topo"  
Maps: I can't imagine it fought sustained, long grades on any of it. What BUDD saying? If a line needed added  
capacity, add another BUDD RDC...
 
Motor Cars (Gas-Electric) a different story. Most of the Cars designed to haul along lightweight trailers...
 
.........................Vern.....................
 
 


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #576 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:33am »
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Vern......
 
Recall, too, the situation on the CNJ, where the company modified a standard arch-roof coach to operate in an RDC consist.
 
This was known as the "Sputnik" car.
 
(this was during the pre-ALDENE years)
 
The good folks at BUDD got wind of this little experiment, and were none to pleased, as you might imagine.......<G>
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #577 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 11:38am »
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Vern/All:
 
Dug this from my files.....
 
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=75784&start=15


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #578 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 1:07pm »
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Another one of the CN's "stubby" trailers.......
 
http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains/photos/cnr_diesel/C-2.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #579 on: Apr 28th, 2012, 1:15pm »
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1940 photo of one of the CN's massive articulated gas-electrics.
 
As was seen in views posted earlier, these units were later de-motored and relegated "trailer" status.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cn/cn15817jpa.jpg


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