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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #520 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 10:32am »
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The caption for this LV view at Buffalo, NY, describes this car as a POSSIBLE Brill (question mark after "Brill").......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lv36.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #521 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 10:39am »
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LV #33 (Brill).............
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/lv33.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #522 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 10:58am »
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All:
 
Just came across this interesting page of SF's Budds; January, 1956 accident described via link I located in earlier post is also mentioned here, noting involved cars being rebuilt.....
 
http://atsf.railfan.net/atsfpres/dc191.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #523 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 3:07pm »
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See also.....
 
http://www.ask.com/wiki/Redondo_Junction_train_wreck


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« Reply #524 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 5:54pm »
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Familiar with the (very sad) incident. I rather suspect that the engineer suffered a TIA - and that leaving engine service and taking retirement was prolly a good idea.
 
The old EMD 6-110s have been replaced in many of the RDCs currently in service (as the TRE examples) with Cummins 855s. More powerful, and generally better engines.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #525 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 7:11pm »
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on Apr 26th, 2012, 5:54pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Familiar with the (very sad) incident. I rather suspect that the engineer suffered a TIA - and that leaving engine service and taking retirement was probably a good idea.
 
The old EMD 6-110s have been replaced in many of the RDCs currently in service (as the TRE examples) with Cummins 855s. More powerful, and generally better engines.

 
Clyde:
 
The amount of lives sadly lost in this tragic accident seems somewhat ironic, given the solid construction of the RDC's.
 
"Fluke" accidents always seem to be the most tragic; that the engineer was a veteran, experienced "old timer", and not a "new kid" fresh on the job truly hits home here.
 
Too, note that both units were rebuilt and served the railroad for more years; today, said equipment would more than likely be scrapped outright......
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #526 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 7:52pm »
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Photo page on preserved SF M160, a truly stunning example of classic-era railroading.....
 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/Locopicture.aspx?id=58388


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #527 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 10:22pm »
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The NYC also operated gas-electrics on various lines and branches over the years.
 
By the late 1920's and 30's, the NYC was operating a doodlebug on the old Wallkill Valley Branch in New York State, instead of the more cosly locomotive-hauled trains.
 
In "LISTEN TO THE WHISTLE", by Carleton Mabee, this was described as a "gasoline-propelled, all-steel, self-contained car".
 
By 1931, only 35 passengers were riding the two daily round trips.
 
In 1937, when (on average) only one person a day was riding the line, the NYC, with permission from the State, abandoned passenger service on the Wallkill line.
 
Shown here is an OSGOOD-BRADLEY unit........
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nycM14.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #528 on: Apr 26th, 2012, 10:25pm »
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Two more examples of NYC OSGOOD-BRADLEY rail cars...............
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nycM408.jpg
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nycM207a.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #529 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 1:36am »
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NYC unit (ST. LOUIS) w/trailer..........
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/nycM203.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #530 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 1:52am »
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At first glance, I thought that this was a SANTA FE shot!<G>
 
Here's a 1958 view of CB&Q (built by EMC) #9767 (Baggage/Mail), with a streamlined coach in tow......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq9767.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #531 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 1:58am »
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Hey, didn't I just mention SANTA FE?<G>
 
(EMC Baggage/Mail units)
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sfM153.jpg
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sfM190.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #532 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 2:04am »
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ERIE (EMC) #5002 at Jamestown, NJ, 1938.
 
(note that this unit does not feature the "Stillwell"-type roof found on some ERIE cars)......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/erie5002.jpg


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« Reply #533 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 8:51am »
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on Apr 27th, 2012, 1:52am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
At first glance, I thought that this was a SANTA FE shot!<G>
 
Here's a 1958 view of CB&Q (built by EMC) #9767 (Baggage/Mail), with a streamlined coach in tow......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq9767.jpg

 
HFM, there just might possibly be a bit o' Santa Fe in this shot, after all . . .
 
Notice the odd-shaped windows in the Chair Car being towed behind the Motor?  In 1941, a car that looked identical to this one was built by the Pacific Railway Manufacturing Company and tested on the Santa Fe.  It was an early attempt at "pendular" technology, designed to allow higher speeds on conventional track without sacrificing passenger comfort.  The results apparently didn't live up to the hype, and Santa Fe never ordered any additional cars.  They retained the one car for a while and operated it on the San Diegan, but I never heard how they finally disposed of it.  If PRMC was a fledgling company that only built one such car, then this is undoubtedly the same one.  However, if they built several, this is the first I've heard of it.  Very, verrrry interesting photo (apologies to Arte Johnson . . .)
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm
 
P.S.  There's a sketch of this car over on the Santa Fe board (sorry, I don't know how to link it over here).  On Page 2 of the Santa Fe board, there's a thread called "Santa Fe Trivia."  On Page 2 of that thread (at the very bottom-- it's the last post, #28 ) there is a sketch of this "Pendulum" Chair Car.  Also, it occurs to me that this car may be one-of-a-kind since it was built just before the unnanounced arrival of World War 2, and wartime purchasing restrictions may have doomed any future construction (and maybe PRMC itself.)


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #534 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 9:30am »
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Norm.............
 
Veeeeeeeerrrrryyyyy interesting, indeed, my friend!
 
Thanks for sharing some really interesting info!
 
(I THOUGHT the windows on that car were a bit unusual!)
 
As the old saying goes:
 
".....there's more to it than mees the eye....."
 
Over the years, I've come across countless old transportation photos that give us some oscure little bit of history, that goes beyond the subject matter at hand!  
 
With roads like the SF (IMHO), I believe that even the most comprehensive work on the subject will never fully tell the whole story......there's always a few little fascinating "odds and ends" that somehow remain ever elusive.
 
Ahhh, but that's what makes our hobby so dang fascinating!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #535 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 9:53am »
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ERIE (EMC) "GO DEVIL" #5015 at Hillsdale, NJ.
 
This is still a commuter stop today, on NJT's Pascack Valley Line.
 
Note that this unit has a "Stillwell"-type roof, perfectly harmonizing with that of the arch-window Stillwell it's hauling.
 
Though the "Go Devils" were gone by the early 50's, ancient Stillwells like this one remained in commuter service out of Hoboken on the E-L until the early 70's.......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/erie5015.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #536 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 9:59am »
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No location given for this undated photo of B&O's handsome #6040.
 
Photo caption states that this MIGHT be a Brill product.
 
In B&O's classic paint, this massive machine looks ready to do the honors on the "ROYAL BLUE".......<G>
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/bo6040.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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C&O Brill #9055 at Durbin, WV.
 
Note handsome wooden coach in tow.......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/co9050.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #538 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 10:13am »
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AT&SF (Pullman/EMC) M122...........
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/sfM122.jpg


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« Reply #539 on: Apr 27th, 2012, 10:51am »
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on Apr 27th, 2012, 1:52am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
At first glance, I thought that this was a SANTA FE shot!<G>
 
Here's a 1958 view of CB&Q (built by EMC) #9767 (Baggage/Mail), with a streamlined coach in tow......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq9767.jpg

HFM -  
 
Don't you go be dissin' the BURLINGTON! <G>
 
Once again: No further caption?  There is a story to the "streamlined coach" seen. It looks to be one of the rare "Pendulum Cars" group.  
Used a suspension system later used on TALGO trains, so for better performance going into curves. On top of that, these heavily relied  
on heavy ("Marine") plywood fab of the bodies.
 
The "Pendulum Cars" are a curious footnote in US Car Building History, of course...
 
NORM -  
 
As I check messages, "oldest to newest" order, later saw you were excited, too, about the "Pendulum Car" in the scene. One rare bird...
 
.............................Vern............................


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