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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #100 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 3:45pm »
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Jerry:
 
Again, appreciate your input (and pics)!
 
Thanks!
 
H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #101 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 3:53pm »
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on Apr 10th, 2012, 3:26pm, Royal_Palm wrote:       (Click here for original message)
For me, at least, this may the most interesting thread on the website...I had no idea. Growing up in Chattanooga, I never saw an observation car (or a dome), save for one in St. Louis Union Station around 1961...what train, I have no idea.

 
Royal_Palm:
 
Thanks!
 
Glad that you've been enjoying this topic!
 
Being a lifelong resident of NJ (55 years) I've, not surprisingly, been addicted to commuter operations, most especiall during the "Fallen Flags" and early-Conrail/NJDOT eras.
 
There was such a tremendous amount of equipment in use, back then!
 
Looking through some photos last week, I realized just how many former through cars came east for renovation into commuter equipment; that's what gave me the idea for this thread in the first place.
 
I sure wish I'd been able to ride that beautiful ex-FEC observation, when it was used on NY&LB trains......that had to be an experience!
 
The observation cars I knew the best growing up were the famed tavern-lounges of E-L's "PHOEBE SNOW", admiring them many times down at the Hoboken terminal.
 
As you've learned from the links I posted here, the LIRR once operated a true "museum fleet" of parlor cars from other roads......certainly was a most colorful era in railroading, one that we'll, sadly, never see the likes of again......
 
"H.F.M."


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ClydeDET
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« Reply #102 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 5:01pm »
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Harry,
 
This has been (And is being) quite interesting and informative.  
 
While not really observations, though round-ended streamlined cars, did you ever encounter the Reading Crusader cars? Which ran through Joisy between Philly and NYC.


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« Reply #103 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 5:03pm »
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on Apr 10th, 2012, 3:15pm, jmlaboda wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"...but the fluting has been stripped both above and! below the pier panel."
 
Actually that car never had corrugation.  Its a former Pennsy Budd 21 Roomette car converted to a coach.  No corrugation above the window, slab panels below...
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2853874

 
 
Ah so - thanks, Jim.


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #104 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 5:36pm »
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on Apr 10th, 2012, 5:01pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Harry,
 
This has been (And is being) quite interesting and informative.  
 
While not really observations, though round-ended streamlined cars, did you ever encounter the Reading Crusader cars? Which ran through Joisy between Philly and NYC.

 
Clyde:
 
Thank you!
 
Glad that you've found this topic informative!
 
Sadly, I never got to see the original Reading "CRUSADER" consist, with a streamlined "obs" at each end.
 
They were retired not all that long before my first visit to the CNJ terminal at Jersey City, though I can recall seeing (a few times) a B&O business car attatched to "THE CRUSADER", or the "WALL SREEET", during the PM rush hours, when B&O brass were in town.
 
After the retirement of the original "CRUSADER" equipment, regular coaches were used.
 
After 1967, when the Jersey City terminal closed, the Reading trains were made up of RDC's, as there were no facilities for turning motive power at Newark or Harrison.
 
As many Philly-area businessmen commuted to New York on these trains, it could be said that both the "CRUSADER" and the "WALL STREET" were "through-commuter" trains.....
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #105 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 5:44pm »
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Here's a view of a CRUSADER "observation" at Wayne Junction, 1949.....
 
http://gelwood.railfan.net/rdg/rdg-obs-afm.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #106 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 5:56pm »
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Also of interest.....
 
http://www.american-rails.com/crusader.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #107 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 6:01pm »
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One of the ex-CRUSADER "observation" cars in CN service.....
 
http://cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=16708


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #108 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 7:18pm »
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Another view.....
 
http://railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=251843


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #109 on: Apr 10th, 2012, 7:46pm »
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See also.....
 
http://cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=24732


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #110 on: Apr 11th, 2012, 12:47am »
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"THE CRUSADER" and other vintage streamliners (toy, model, and prototype) take center stage here.
 
This page holds a wealth of interesting images for anyone interested in classic era-streamlining, especially steam and early diesel)........
 
http://www.jitterbuzz.com/stream.html#cruse


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #111 on: Apr 11th, 2012, 6:54pm »
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1973 view of one of the ex-CRUSADER cars at Toronto.....
 
http://cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=53456


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« Reply #112 on: Apr 11th, 2012, 11:03pm »
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on Apr 11th, 2012, 12:47am, HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"THE CRUSADER" and other vintage streamliners (toy, model, and prototype) take center stage here.
 
TThis page holds a wealth of interesting images for anyone interested in classic era-streamlining, especially steam and early diesel)........
 
http://www.jitterbuzz.com/stream.html#cruse

 
Words fail me, Mr. Malone.
 
I clicked on this link, thinking I'd have oh, I dunno, three or four minutes of entertaining browsing.  But as I watched it loading in (and loading in . . . and loading in . . . and loading in . . .) I resolved to put this site in my Favorites before it even said "Done."  And now here I am, rushing back over here to thank you before I've even begun to peruse this gold-mine.  There is hours and hours of information here, by the look of it.  This is going to be great ! ! !
 
 
Again, thank you.
 
Norm


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #113 on: Apr 11th, 2012, 11:26pm »
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Norm:
 
You are MOST welcome, my friend!
 
I, too, thought that I would have maybe ten/fifteen minutes or so of happy browsing, UNTIL I saw just how much stuff was downloading!
 
WOW!!
 
Always being shamelessly devoted to the classic streamliners of yesterday, I KNEW this was going to provide some FIRST-CLASS entertainment, and HAD to share it here!
 
Again, my pleasure!
 
"H.F.M."


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #114 on: Apr 11th, 2012, 11:55pm »
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CN coach #303 (ex-RDG #2) at Toronto, 1979......
 
http://cnrphotos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=16902


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #115 on: Apr 12th, 2012, 12:14am »
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This 1973 photo shows LIRR parlor car "AMAGANSETT" in a 1973 fantrip consist.
 
This car was built by P-S in 1950 for the C&O as a 5 DBR/buffet lounge (#2052) "TIDEWATER CLUB".
 
Became B&O's "NAPPANEE" (#7500) in 1951, operated on CAPITOL LIMITED.
 
Aquired by the LIRR in 1968.......
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67674


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #116 on: Apr 12th, 2012, 12:27am »
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Excellent photo page on the same car......
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/amagansett.html


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #117 on: Apr 12th, 2012, 12:30am »
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Long Island City, 1971; "AMAGANSETT" is just behind the engine......
 
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?67670


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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« Reply #118 on: Apr 12th, 2012, 3:41am »
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LIRR Budd RDC #3121, circa-early 1960's (this looks to be a fan trip of some sort......hey, watch out for that third rail, fellows!).
 
The reason I'm posting this one here is because this RDC was traded to the B&O for the observation "NAPPANEE", which later became LIRR parlor "AMAGANSETT"........
 
http://www.trainsarefun.com/lirr/Budd/RDC3121-Morris%20Park1.jpg


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HARRY FOSTER MALONE ESQ
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LIRR parlor #2052 "PATCHOGUE" (built by P-S, 1940), as PRR #8135 "JUNIPER FALLS" (6 DBR/buffet-lounge).......
 
http://www.dominionrailvoyages.com/jhd/lirr/patchogue.html


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