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ehbowen
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Re: Union Station, Chicago: Regal Relic of Yesterday
 
« Reply #80 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 12:42pm »
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on Mar 30th, 2012, 11:40am, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Coast_Limited
Apparently overlooked in the fine work of Eric Bowen, see, also:
 
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track7/index.html
 
........................Vern.....................

 
Not completely overlooked, see:
 
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track5/northcoast195904.html
 
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track5/northcoast197104.html
 
I'm willing to do another schedule or two of this train, especially if I can find some good supplemental information to go along with it.


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #81 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 12:59pm »
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All:
 
"RIDING THE NORTH COAST LIMITED"..............
 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjb4photos/sets/72157606072881534/


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« Reply #82 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:02pm »
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See also:
 
http://www.american-rails.com/north-coast-limited.html


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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #83 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:03pm »
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Eric -  
 
Many Thanks! I'm a long time enthusiast of your work, but we established that! <G>
 
I did a "fast, sloppy and lazy" check of your site, and had the N P as classically "WEST". That so, I didn't  
check into "Track 5". Maybe it oughta' be a nice touch, in this instance, for a "cross reference info" entry  
in the "West" page?
 
Again, your work very much appreciated...
 
........................Vern...................


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« Reply #84 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:08pm »
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Clearly not carrying any passengers in this view, wesee NP's #390 (ex-"RAINIER CLUB"; 4DBR/1Comp/buffet-lounge, rebuilt from 5DBR/buffet-lounge.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-o390acd.jpg


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« Reply #85 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:14pm »
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NP Slumbercoach "LOCH NESS"......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1947225


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« Reply #86 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:27pm »
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on Mar 30th, 2012, 1:03pm, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Eric -  
 
Many Thanks! I'm a long time enthusiast of your work, but we established that! <G>

 
Always appreciate the compliments; glad to be of service!
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I did a "fast, sloppy and lazy" check of your site, and had the N P as classically "WEST". That so, I didn't  
check into "Track 5". Maybe it oughta' be a nice touch, in this instance, for a "cross reference info" entry  
in the "West" page?

 
There is a "See Also" entry at the bottom of Track 7, the Pacific Northwest page....
 


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« Reply #87 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:32pm »
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Ex-NP sleeper at Edison, NJ (METROPARK), in this early AMTRAK-era scene......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-sleep-kga.jpg


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« Reply #88 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:36pm »
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"LOCH LONG" at Savanna, Illinois, 1968......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-pu331ajs.jpg


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« Reply #89 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:42pm »
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NP dome #558 at Savanna, Illionois, 1968; note CB&Q markings.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-do558ajs.jpg


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« Reply #90 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 1:56pm »
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No location given for this 7/56 view of NP observation #391.........
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-o0391cca.jpg


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« Reply #91 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 2:52pm »
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No date or location for this circa-1960's photo of NP heavyweight Pullman #716 (ex-"CHIEF SPOTTED TAIL"), while running in a PRR consist, in electrified territory.....
 
http://www.bcoolidge.com/ANG%20Pix/ANG-NP-Heavyweight-Sleeper_11_28_64_w.jpg


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Re: Union Station, Chicago: Regal Relic of Yesterday
 
« Reply #92 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 3:08pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 10:10pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Clyde:
 
Yes, many other cars on other roads were updated far more than this particular car, handsome as it was.
 
Many roads incorporated full arched roofs, totally eliminating any semblence of the original railroad-style roofline and contours.
 
I well recall such modernized equipment on E-L through trains, back in the 60's.......
 
"SM"

 
The Museum of the American Railroad (formerly the Age of Steam) now in process of moving from Fair park, Dallas to Frisco, has one of the T&P's (MoPAc subsidiary) modernized heavy-weights. Arched roof, new, sealed windows with rounded corners, welded sidesheets and Eagle blue and cream paint job. Very handsome. T&P Coach #1143. Never know it wasn't a smooth-side lightweight without noticing the height and 3-axle trucks.  
 
Oh - in 1975, Uncle sent me to Chicago to take the Prosecutor's Short Course at Northwestern.  Decided to take the train up. When we boarded the train at Temple, on the end was a Dome-sleepr-obs (our space was a bedroom in an ex-AT&SF Pine series 10-6), ex-CZ pool, sister to those shown supra.Silver Penthouse, i think.


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on Mar 30th, 2012, 3:08pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
The Museum of the American Railroad (formerly the Age of Steam) now in process of moving from Fair park, Dallas to Frisco, has one of the T&P's (MoPAc subsidiary) modernized heavy-weights. Arched roof, new, sealed windows with rounded corners, welded sidesheets and Eagle blue and cream paint job. Very handsome. T&P Coach #1143. Never know it wasn't a smooth-side lightweight without noticing the height and 3-axle trucks.  

 
Clyde:
 
You just reminded me of something....
 
By the 1960's, (on the E-L), only a few heavyweight coaches (ex-ERIE) had not been rebuilt/modernized into the 1000-series, with arch roofs, and modern, sealed windows.
 
When the NYS&W bought an old 1000-series coach in the 1980's, shop crews discovered that the old clerestory roof was still intact under the newer arch roof!
 
Never know when you are going to "dig up" ancient history.....
 
"SM"


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« Reply #94 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 3:22pm »
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on Mar 30th, 2012, 1:36pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"LONG LONG" at Savanna, Illinois, 1968......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-pu331ajs.jpg

SM -
 
Should report as LOCH LONG...
 
.............................Vern.......................


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on Mar 30th, 2012, 3:22pm, HwyHaulier wrote:       (Click here for original message)

SM -
 
Should report as LOCH LONG...
 
.............................Vern.......................

 
Vern.....
 
 
Saw and corrected!
 
See what so little sleep will do?<G>
 
"SM"


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« Reply #96 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 3:52pm »
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Gents:
 
In reference to posts 77 & 78:
 
In addition to CB&Q cars in NP colors for the North Coast Limited, I believe the they also had some cars in GN colors for the Empire Builder.  The SP&S also participated in the Empire Builder pool the same way, all done up for the Builder with SP&S sublettering.
 
Alan
 


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Gents:
 
In reference to posts 77 & 78:
 
In addition to CB&Q cars in NP colors for the North Coast Limited, I believe the they also had some cars in GN colors for the Empire Builder.  The SP&S also participated in the Empire Builder pool the same way, all done up for the Builder with SP&S sublettering.
 
Alan
 

 
 
Alan:
 
Great info; appreciate your sharing!
 
Came across the following photo, which I think might be of interest.....
 
"SM"
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=242945


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« Reply #98 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 4:07pm »
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See also......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=242961


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« Reply #99 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 5:04pm »
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Eric -
 
N P, NORTH COAST LIMITED? Fairly certain, in the venerable work of Lucius Beebe & Charles Clegg, this train
 - including post war equipment - well covered. Problem with it, the five decades back volumes may be a bit elusive.  
In addition, IIRC, N P received solid coverage in other historical works. Too, perhaps a solid enthusiast website?
 
.........................Vern......................


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