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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #60 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:29pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 7:24pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Interesting - no reporting marks I can see on SILVER DOME. Is that a modernized heavyweight coupled ahead? Look at the contour and car height.

 
Clyde:
 
Again, I see we're notincing the same thing!
 
I, too, was also noticing that car, which (IMHO) looks to be a modernized heavyweight.
 
It certainly stands out next to the "SILVER DOME".......
 
"SM"


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« Reply #61 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:41pm »
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Heavyweight Pullman (12 Sect/1DR) #621......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq621.jpg


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« Reply #62 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:45pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 8:41pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Heavyweight Pullman (12 Sect/1DR) #621......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq621.jpg

 
Air conditioned, but not fully modernized. Space in the drawing room would make for a good ride, yes.


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« Reply #63 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:46pm »
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"LANCASTER CLUB", Heavyweight 4 SBR/2 Comp/1DR/Solarium-lounge......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=242947


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« Reply #64 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:49pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 8:46pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"LANCASTER CLUB", Heavyweight 4 SBR/2 Comp/1DR/Solarium-lounge......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=242947

 
Another noce ride, even in summer since it has been up-graded (or possibly built with)  air conditioning. You don't want a ride from Chicago to Denver in the summer in a car without A/C.


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« Reply #65 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:50pm »
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Modernized heavyweight Pullman "POPLAR BRANCH" (6 Sect/1DR)......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq_poplar_branch0.jpg


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« Reply #66 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 8:54pm »
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"ST. PAUL CLUB", heavyweight lounge/solarium/observation.....
 
http://www.drgw.org/data/passenger/CBQSTPAULCLUB.jpg


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« Reply #67 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 9:31pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 8:50pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Modernized heavyweight Pullman "POPLAR BRANCH" (6 Sect/1DR)......
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/images/cbq_poplar_branch0.jpg

 
Well, not as modernized as some. But A/C, looks like sealed windows, maybe. And shadow-lined paint to blend with fluted stainless steel lightweights.


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« Reply #68 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 9:45pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 8:54pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
"ST. PAUL CLUB", heavyweight lounge/solarium/observation.....
 
http://www.drgw.org/data/passenger/CBQSTPAULCLUB.jpg

 
Those all look like they re running out their miles, and are in need of a bit of maintenance. At least a fresh paint job, eh?


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« Reply #69 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 10:10pm »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 9:31pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Well, not as modernized as some. But A/C, looks like sealed windows, maybe. And shadow-lined paint to blend with fluted stainless steel lightweights.

 
Clyde:
 
Yes, many other cars on other roads were updated far more than this particular car, handsome as it was.
 
Many roads incorporated full arched roofs, totally eliminating any semblence of the original railroad-style roofline and contours.
 
I well recall such modernized equipment on E-L through trains, back in the 60's.......
 
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« Reply #70 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 10:27pm »
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Webpage caption for this photo tells us that this CB&Q Budd-built diner was a rare car, but not accepted by AMTRAK......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1698353


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« Reply #71 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 10:32pm »
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Heavyweight CB&Q diner #171, flanked by two streamline cars......
 
http://railwayclassics.com/images/CBQ13/CBQ51-AL.jpg


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« Reply #72 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 10:37pm »
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AMTRAK-era photo of dome/obs "SILVER SOLARIUM".
 
A stunning car, recalling the glamorous, glory days of the American streamliner.......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1227496


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« Reply #73 on: Mar 29th, 2012, 10:52pm »
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Here's a 1969 photo of another sleek Burlington car (BUDD), the "SILVER LOOKOUT" dome-obs (3 DBR/1DR/lounge/observation).....
 
http://jerryapp.com/arcv3e/ja-r648.jpg


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« Reply #74 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 7:32am »
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on Mar 29th, 2012, 10:52pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's a 1969 photo of another sleek Burlington car (BUDD), the "SILVER LOOKOUT" dome-obs (3 DBR/1DR/lounge/observation).....
 
http://jerryapp.com/arcv3e/ja-r648.jpg  

SM - All -  
 
And, this one is a curiosity, or a dilemma, at best! By its marks, it had served as a C B & Q car in assigned, several railroads,  
CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR Pool. The Photo hints it no longer in the service. The date controlling here. We were at end of C Z service...
 
Puzzling? Next car up is a NORTHERN PACIFIC "trans-con" Car. (A ZOOM view tends to support line name.) So we are possibly  
seeing a CGO - MPLS - WEST via NP movement (and not on CGO - DEN, C B & Q line?)...
 
.........................Vern.......................


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on Mar 29th, 2012, 7:21pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Yes, the possibility of it being assigned to Texas Zephyr occured to me. I recall seeing heavyweights mixed with stainless steel in Dallas when i was a kid.  
And for that matter - during the last years of Burlington service to Dallas while i was in college.  

Clyde - All -  
 
With this one, OFFICIAL GUIDE Timetable pages would surely prove handy! Before Lou Menk began to shut it all down,  
seems to me (or IIRC) on the more heavily traveled "city pairs" schedules, C B & Q had ZEPHYR trains, and some others  
which did not have the label (and the latter not necessarily with the newer equipment).
 
We may also estimate photo of a DEN - TEXAS train because: For its own internal legal reasons, equipment on the lane  
marked F W & D, or C & S, Colorado & Southern. "System" C B & Q Cars likely not used on the Texas line.
 
......................Vern....................


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« Reply #76 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 9:47am »
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SM - All -  
 
And, this one is a curiosity, or a dilemma, at best! By its marks, it had served as a C B & Q car in assigned, several railroads,  
CALIFORNIA ZEPHYR Pool. The Photo hints it no longer in the service. The date controlling here. We were at end of C Z service...
 
Puzzling? Next car up is a NORTHERN PACIFIC "trans-con" Car. (A ZOOM view tends to support line name.) So we are possibly  
seeing a CGO - MPLS - WEST via NP movement (and not on CGO - DEN, C B & Q line?)...
 
.........................Vern.......................

 
Vern.......
 
I, too, was puzzled with this one, but, hardly being an expert in the field, I thought I'd leave this to wiser hands!<G>
 
Once again, when viewing such vintage images as this, the more info provided, the better.......
 
"SM"


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« Reply #77 on: Mar 30th, 2012, 9:55am »
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All:
 
Only info given for this 1970 view is that we are seeing #558, a slab-side dome/coach......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2584231


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...Only info given for this 1970 view is that we are seeing #558, a slab-side dome/coach......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=2584231  

SM - All -  
 
Here we go, again! Space in photo caption does not permit more detail...
 
Vital to this? Date just preceded AMTK. The car plainly marked, C B & Q. Which tells us it was in  
equipment pool for North Coast Limited. A legendary "name" train run over both lines. Note, too,  
photo at Aurora, IL, an acknowledged Burlington hot spot!
 
Also see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Coast_Limited
Apparently overlooked in the fine work of Eric Bowen, see, also:
 
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track7/index.html
 
........................Vern.....................


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on Mar 29th, 2012, 10:27pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Webpage caption for this photo tells us that this CB&Q Budd-built diner was a rare car, but not accepted by AMTRAK......
 
http://rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1698353

SM - All -  
 
Because - and surely it would be nice to have view of other side, and C B & Q number - it apparently more  
a Baggage/ Lounge/ Grille (or Buffet) Car! In its Bad, Old Days, selected C B & Q ZEPHYR schedules  
would have found it useful. (Latter operator may have lacked imagination about how to use it?)...
 
......................Vern...................


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