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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #60 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 3:53pm »
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ATSF connections at Chicago, 1966.
 
NO WONDER the "Windy City" was such a mecca for railrfans!<G>
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp25.gif
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp26.gif


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #61 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 3:55pm »
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Listing for ATSF transcontinental passenger equipment, 1966......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp08.gif


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #62 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 3:59pm »
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ATSF service (1966) between Chicago and:
 
KANSAS
 
OKLAHAMA
 
TEXAS
 
(note connections with CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS)
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp20.gif


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« Reply #63 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 4:25pm »
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on Mar 15th, 2012, 3:59pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
ATSF service (1966) between Chicago and:
 
KANSAS
 
OKLAHAMA
 
TEXAS
 
(note connections with CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS)
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp20.gif

SM -  
 
Note - for all my carrying on, ranting, and all the good it does - the various list of small towns that had two trains daily, each way.  
Same way with the old BURLINGTON Time Tables. Most all of this is gone, with endless excuses why it can't be done...
 
George -  
 
Thanks! A reality adjusted account of how it all worked!
 
.........................Vern....................


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SILVER METEOR 158-58
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« Reply #64 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 4:51pm »
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Vern.....
 
Agreed!
 
Sadly, as you and I both know, common sense is virtually an unheard of commodity these days, ESPECIALLY in the transportation sector!
 
Sigh!
 
What price progress?
 
"SM"


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« Reply #65 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 5:00pm »
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Seems like it t'was only yesterday.....
 
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on Mar 15th, 2012, 3:53pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
ATSF connections at Chicago, 1966.
 
NO WONDER the "Windy City" was such a mecca for railrfans!<G>
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp25.gif
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp26.gif

 
 
Whe I reported for active duty (at APG, Maryland) in April 1966, I decided to use the train. Texas Chief from Dallas to Chicago, PRR to Aberdeen. If I had known to ask, the transportation clerk at the Dallas Induction Center could have cut my ticket from Chicago east to be on the B&O/C&O as far as Baltimore (where I had to change trains anyhow). Expect that would have been a better ride than the PRR provided (customer service was - not good, and the train was dirty).


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on Mar 15th, 2012, 5:01pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Whe I reported for active duty (at APG, Maryland) in April 1966, I decided to use the train. Texas Chief from Dallas to Chicago, PRR to Aberdeen. If I had known to ask, the transportation clerk at the Dallas Induction Center could have cut my ticket from Chicago east to be on the B&O/C&O as far as Baltimore (where I had to change trains anyhow). Expect that would have been a better ride than the PRR provided (customer service was - not good, and the train was dirty).

 
 
Clyde:
 
You brought up a very good point, IMHO.
 
By the later 60's, most railroads so desperatley wanted out of the passenger business that it seemed some companies did just about anything possible to discourage the public from riding their trains.
 
Dirty equipment (as you mentioned), surly employees, less-than-stellar dining services....even on roads that once been known for courteous, professional service in earlier years.......was becoming more and more commonplace as the 60's drew to a close.
 
Thankfully, the Santa Fe KNEW that treating customers RIGHT was the ONLY way to do business, even during the lean, declining years of the later 60's.
 
Too bad that Santa Fe's "public relations" policies are so foreign in today's rail passenger sector.
 
To quote our good friend Norm Anderson:
 
"Everything's better with Warbonnet on it!"
 
"SM"


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« Reply #68 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 6:48pm »
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Timeless views from 1965 depicting equipment being serviced at Albuquerque.......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-carwas-cwa.jpg
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-paxtrn-cwd.jpg


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Sure was a fine era while it lasted.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-hilevel.jpg


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« Reply #70 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 6:58pm »
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Classic view at Dearborn Station......at one time, it all seemed so permanent, as though it would all last forever......
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-chidea-ccb.jpg


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« Reply #71 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 9:22pm »
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Another timeless scene at Chicago, 1964............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-co0553jpa.jpg


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« Reply #72 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 10:40pm »
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IMHO, this classic publicity photo truly sums up the glories and pomp of the SANTA FE in its heyday!
 
I call this timeless portrait "WARBONNET RHAPSODY"!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf2abw.jpg


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« Reply #73 on: Mar 15th, 2012, 11:31pm »
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on Mar 15th, 2012, 10:40pm, SILVER METEOR 158-58 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
IMHO, this classic publicity photo truly sums up the glories and pomp of the SANTA FE in its heyday!
 
I call this timeless portrait "WARBONNET RHAPSODY"!
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf2abw.jpg

 
 
A Rhapsody performed flawlessly in the Key of "E1-A"


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on Mar 15th, 2012, 5:01pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...Texas Chief from Dallas to Chicago, PRR to Aberdeen. If I had known to ask, the transportation clerk at the Dallas Induction Center could have cut my ticket from Chicago east to be on the B&O/C&O as far as Baltimore (where I had to change trains anyhow). Expect that would have been a better ride than the PRR provided (customer service was - not good, and the train was dirty).

Clyde -  
 
Alas! A "...what might have been account..."! The old B & O RR crowd would have been pleased to host your journey on its  
classic and comfortable #6/ 26. Recall, it carried amenity of Dome Cars. On an April run, there would have been daylight  
well across Indiana. Night time views of the passing steel mills, largely on New Castle - McKeesport line most impressive.  
Dawn would come sometime when approaching Cumberland, MD, IIRC. The Diner opened early inbound for breakfast...
 
If running a bit late inbound, one had to watch their coffee, Cumberland to Point of Rocks (which was very much Historic  
Route, and had the curves to prove it!)
 
Our colleague, Eric Bowen has this on his site. Details stops and timepoints...
http://www.streamlinerschedules.com/concourse/track3/capitolltd196308.html  
 
..............................Vern..........................


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on Mar 15th, 2012, 11:31pm, Norm_Anderson wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
A Rhapsody performed flawlessly in the Key of "E1-A"

 
Norm:
 
Indeed!
 
If "a pretty girl is like a melody", then "a diesel fully adorned in full Warbonnet regalia is by far the SWEETEST symphony ever heard!"
 
Stuff like this truly make my heart beat faster!
 
"SM"


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« Reply #76 on: Mar 16th, 2012, 9:37am »
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Once again, Norm's hit the proverbial nail right on the head:
 
"Everything's better with Warbonnet on it"!
 
(Chicago, 1965)
 
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Chicago, 1962.
 
One can almost feel that unmistakeable aura of dignity and majesty that was so much a part of SF passenger power............
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0020cca.jpg


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« Reply #78 on: Mar 16th, 2012, 9:55am »
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Dearborn Station, late 1950's.
 
This is yet another of those classic "where did it all go?" vignettes of bygone America.
 
We've lost far more than we saved.....
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0073ccc.jpg


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« Reply #79 on: Mar 16th, 2012, 10:28am »
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From 1966 TT.
 
Motor coach connections here provided by:
 
CONTINENTAL TRAILWAYS
 
KIRKSVILLE MOTOR COACH SERVICE (VIA MISSOURI TRANSIT LINES)
 
INDIAN DETOURS TRANSPORTATION COMPANY
 
PEORIA CHARTER COACH COMPANY
 
http://rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-ptp24.gif


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