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HwyHaulier
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« Reply #60 on: Jan 5th, 2016, 11:07am »
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on Jan 5th, 2016, 10:51am, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
For every TO there is a FRO.

 
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Hmmmm... "OT Violation" on the play? Here we are wandering into Philosophy? Yes, and there is a YIN for every YAN?
 
Let me go sit and meditate? Drink Green Tea? Do a lot of "OMMMM-ING"? Let the flow happen?
 
All right! Now I get it! Cape Charles, VA   See ref: http://eshore.vcdh.virginia.edu/node/5773
 
.............................Vern................................


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« Reply #61 on: Jan 5th, 2016, 4:16pm »
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Vern, nicely done, the attached photo without the building signs covered up, was used at Cape Charles for passengers to get to and from the bay steamers for transit to Norfolk, Newport News, Hampton or only destinations around the lower Chesapeake Bay.  
 
Photo from the website "The Countryside Transformed: The Railroad and the Eastern Shore of Virginia 1870 - 1935 http://eshore.vcdh.virginia.edu/node/1841


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« Reply #62 on: Jan 5th, 2016, 4:19pm »
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The attached photo is of the yard at Cape Charles, VA (circa 1927).  
 
Photo from the website "The Countryside Transformed: The Railroad and the Eastern Shore of Virginia 1870 - 1935 http://eshore.vcdh.virginia.edu/node/1841


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« Reply #63 on: Jan 5th, 2016, 5:50pm »
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Excellent photos, oh to have a time machine to see how busy this place was way back then!  
 
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« Reply #64 on: Jan 6th, 2016, 10:56am »
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Well, I did use a cheat sheet. What you don't have in your trivia store house? That on my Dad's side, we are Eastern Shore (of MD) kinds of folks.  
He born at Fairmount, MD. His Dad a sea going man, with vessels based at Port Crisfield, MD.
 
In the Bad, Old Days, the PRR (nee' NYP&N) in such good shape, it handled fast thru trains to and from New York. It is all in the (now rare) Hayman  
book. He also from old line Eastern Shore folks, Hayman a well known name in the parts...
 
BTW. Note the link relied upon. The image was not pulled up and displayed. Your writer respects wishes of various webmasters, and will not call  
images directly. Or, to day, the graphic there for personal viewing and use only...
 
................................Vern...............................


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« Reply #65 on: Jan 9th, 2016, 10:14am »
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If you dialed in the wrong year on your Time Machine, you might wind up looking at this.
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« Reply #66 on: Jan 11th, 2016, 7:56am »
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I remember seeing that engine on the deadline in Binghamton, NY after the Delaware Otsego brought it "home".

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« Reply #67 on: Jan 12th, 2016, 10:53am »
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The consist is the clue to the location.....................

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« Reply #68 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 11:21am »
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This one a laugh riot! Great you have a good sense of humor!
 
Your writer has it narrowed to those segments of the Washington DC - New York
PRR Main, which on the (about) 227 Miles route, and then running thru urban
landscapes! Likely a site TT East of Edison - Metro Park...
 
The train itself easily explained. Contains Cars received from or delivery with C&O at
WAS. The more forward Cars displaying red most likely NYNH&H, received from or  
delivery at NYC. The rest of it apparently PRR equipment. The Photo depicts one of a
number of schedules which carried through Cars to and from the South, and similar
to and from North above NYC.
 
It would be easier if a Wakefern (Shop-Rite) warehouse shown?
 
.........................Vern......................


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« Reply #69 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 11:57am »
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Indeed, the route is long with many possibilities to chose from...............Nice shout out to the Elizabeth Wakefern warehouse, though!
 
Since I don't have better info to give, my sources give this as apparently being taken somewhere in the DC Metro area......My best guess using satelite technology is this is either old 9th St bridge, or the Rt.1/New York Ave bridge, but I really can't tell even from toggling back and forth between Bing "birdseye view" and Historicaerials.com circa 1964 (I'm leaning towards the NY Ave bridge, if you care to follow up)
 
Regardless, this photo comes from the Dan Pope collection.


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« Reply #70 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 12:20pm »
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DANG IT! Ages back, your writer on the WAS - BAL PRR Commutes, mostly on the MP-54 Cars. On this one? If the large warehouse,  
in the background, might show 'MERKLE' on it, then it is WAS! The grain of the film works to confound. Beats me, too, whatever the  
markings on the bundles of whatever in lower left...
 
(Added. 1250 HR) Try this. Note Street Address. http://www.washingtondc.com/places/merkle-press-inc
Close to a timetable point. A City name incl. a pesky garden plant?
 
May we intuit this the TT East a.m. from WAS, carrying the C&O Cars from its George Washington. That also implies Cars to the rear,  
some of which East Thru Cars out of the South?...
 
..............................Vern.......................


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« Reply #71 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 2:52pm »
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Yeah Vern, I got nothing..............Uhh, let's move on, shall we?
 
So, did you ever wonder what a Sharknosed BLW DR6-4-2000 looks like from underneath? I wonder if Engineer Wilson and Fireman Love were at the throttle for this one?
 
And no, those aren't Lionel track power pickup rollers under there!


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« Reply #72 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 5:29pm »
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That's the 1956 BP20 wreck in Kokomo, IN. I sort of cheated a little tho, I googled "BP20 wreck" and found http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1897838
 
It's a really neat pic and the traction motors sort of do look like Lionel pickup rollers!


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Well, I'm betting that was a rather wild ride........the Yankees fan in me is hearing the voice of Joe Girardi saying, "It's not what you want".  
 
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« Reply #74 on: Jan 14th, 2016, 9:47am »
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That's OK Henry, sometimes ya just gotta!
 
I WAS hoping somebody would make the Love/Wilson/Kokomo connection though......
 
This happened in 1956, and taken by Maynard Krug, collection of his son Bob, on rrpicturearchives.net
 
Here's the story - "PRR Baldwin Sharknose 5778 lies on its side in Kokomo, Indiana. This was PRR passenger train #208, which ran from Chicago to Cincinnati. The train had made it's regularly scheduled station stop in Kokomo, and was accelerating southbound when the lead engine was diverted by a mis-thrown switch onto an industrial siding, the curvature of which caused the lead unit to tip over from inertia. Fortunately the train wasn't rolling at high speed yet, and the engineer and firemen both survived. None of the trailing cars tipped over, and there were no injuries among the passengers or train crew. Subsequent investigation determined that the switch had been thrown by a young boy (approx age 10-12) who had somehow obtained a switch key, unlocked the siding switch, and thrown it ahead of the train."


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« Reply #75 on: Jan 14th, 2016, 2:05pm »
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WOW - it seems that kids do not understand the ramifications of changing a switch. They think the train can stop, This happened years ago on the EL Bergen Co line when some teens threw a switch and a passenger train derailed on the siding killing the engineer.  crazy.
 
Here is another GTL-- "It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing"  


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« Reply #76 on: Jan 14th, 2016, 3:25pm »
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I'm pretty sure I know exactly where this is, so Charlie (or anybody else), do you wanna take a whack at it before I do?

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« Reply #77 on: Jan 15th, 2016, 9:32pm »
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Go for it! I have seen this somewhere in a book, I'm sure but I can't place it.

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« Reply #78 on: Jan 16th, 2016, 5:21pm »
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Not many places on the Pennsy I'd recognize - maybe Englewood in suburban Chicago, Horseshoe Curve, just maybe the Susquehanna Bridge  at Havre de Grace. not a lot of others. It be an interesting thread.

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« Reply #79 on: Jan 19th, 2016, 11:43am »
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Hi guys, I'm back after the long weekend.......I am going to stick my neck out here and say Penns Neck swing bridge over the D&R canal on the route of the Dinky.

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