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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/14/16 at 06:49:09 - 'NYC_5343_5_765x990.jpg' 193 KB
"NEW YORK CENTRAL LOCOMOTIVE No. 5343 MAKES OVER 130,000 MILES" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/14/16 at 06:48:38 - 'NYC_5343_4_765x990.jpg' 176 KB
"NEW YORK CENTRAL LOCOMOTIVE No. 5343 MAKES OVER 130,000 MILES" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/14/16 at 06:47:58 - 'NYC_5343_3_765x990.jpg' 183 KB
"NEW YORK CENTRAL LOCOMOTIVE No. 5343 MAKES OVER 130,000 MILES" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/14/16 at 06:47:19 - 'NYC_5343_2_765x990.jpg' 189 KB
"NEW YORK CENTRAL LOCOMOTIVE No. 5343 MAKES OVER 130,000 MILES" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/14/16 at 06:46:29 - 'NYC_5343_1_765x990.jpg' 139 KB
Article below is from the September 24, 1932, "Railway Age", titled "NEW YORK CENTRAL LOCOMOTIVE No. 5343 MAKES OVER 130,000 MILES".

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/06/16 at 12:31:17 - 'NYC_Passenger_Loco_39_794x1128.jpg' 159 KB
"CENTRAL ATLANTIC TYPE PASSENGER LOCOMOTIVE" - continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/06/16 at 12:30:43 - 'NYC_Passenger_Loco_38_785x1123.jpg' 120 KB
"CENTRAL ATLANTIC TYPE PASSENGER LOCOMOTIVE" - continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/06/16 at 12:29:56 - 'NYC_Passenger_Loco_37_785x1088.jpg' 133 KB
"CENTRAL ATLANTIC TYPE PASSENGER LOCOMOTIVE" - continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/06/16 at 12:29:13 - 'NYC_Passenger_Loco_36_766x1120.jpg' 104 KB
"CENTRAL ATLANTIC TYPE PASSENGER LOCOMOTIVE" - continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/06/16 at 12:28:07 - 'NYC_Passenger_Loco_35_796x1117.jpg' 203 KB
Article below is from the February, 1901, "American Engineer & Railroad Journal", titled "CENTRAL ATLANTIC TYPE PASSENGER LOCOMOTIVE".

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Desperately need help identifying locomotive NY Central - By Deborah on 06/29/16 at 23:39:58 - '4-4-0_3837.jpg' 273 KB
Hello and greetings. I am looking for some help..please??
(Cross post from the main line)
I am doing image research/fact checking for a great photographic art book coming out in the fall. I readily admit I am quite out of my league when it comes to the rails and trains.  
 
I would like some help identifying this engine (Image attached) and the "livery" if at all possible. The Library of Congress caption says this a 1905 image of the Empire State Express traveling through Syracuse (which I understand applies to the entire train) but it is obviously not the famous 999. The number seems to be 3837 (most likely). I suppose that it is carrying the cars of Empire State Express through Syracuse towards a major switching station.  
I have researched tons of sites with descriptions of the engine numbers and I simply cannot find this one ascribed to any engine.  
 
In 1894 NY Central engines (probably 999) were described  
"Set atop lacy 86.5-inch diameter drivers, with lead truck and tender wheels 40 inches in diameter, the glistening black device, its boiler, smokestack and cylinders fairly gleamed in front-to-back jackets of blue-gray, mirror-bright Russia iron. (rather flowery).  
I do not easily see those big 86" diameter wheels in this image, but the foreshortening is quite extreme and they could be there.
 
The image attached is a cropped portion of a much larger Library of congress image. It is only partially colorized (work in progress, the engine does not have color added yet) It is completely possible that grey and blue/black will work here no problem. But we sincerely would like to get the facts correct on this image.  
 
If anyone has any information I would sincerely appreciate it.  Some one has told me that the attached is 4-4-2 Atlantic type .
Thank you so much.  
Deborah

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Thinkin Lincoln on 05/03/16 at 12:39:09 - 'NYC_1.jpg' 55 KB
OK, maybe we'll have better luck with this one...Everybody likes steam engines, right? RIGHT!
 
This location shares an eastern placement from it's big brother city, and even has it's own monument that reaches the same measurements.
 
The 1877 railroad strike here was, unlike many of it's eastern counterparts, bloodless and violence-free........
 
So go on a guess and do it proudly even if you have no money as you go rollin' on the river, and you should be able to GTL in no time.....

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Thinkin Lincoln on 04/29/16 at 15:24:39 - 'nodi.jpg' 72 KB
Now, it's just CSX's Chicago Line.........................

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Thinkin Lincoln on 04/29/16 at 15:22:52 - 'Voorheesville-NY-train-station.jpg' 59 KB
Since the D&H guys got this one, we'll close this out...This is Voorheesville Jct, NY. D&H and NYC mainlines crossing.

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Thinkin Lincoln on 04/28/16 at 11:41:14 - 'imagesH3OMITV8.jpg' 10 KB
Lemmee go and see if the D&H guys want to play along........

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/22/16 at 14:06:35 - 'NYC-3.jpg' 26 KB
So this GTL could go in two possible forums here, but since we see a NYC FA roaring at us, it gets placed here......
 
When built in the mid-1860's in what was then a farm field, a town named for a railroad attorney grew up around this busy crossing and quite the little community grew up around it, with the requisite railroad hotel, and even a cider mill!
 
Alas, earlier this century, one set of tracks were removed, forever ending this location as a junction.

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Re: Early Bird boxcar - By Raritan Clunker on 04/05/16 at 11:36:51 - 'eb.jpg' 20 KB
I guess the bird really IS the word!

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Re: Early Bird boxcar - By Raritan Clunker on 04/05/16 at 11:33:51 - 'EarlyBirdNewYorkCentral.jpg' 31 KB
Like most LCL and Express services, the railroads promoted it, and the NYC was no different.......I was never really a fan of the "Pacemaker" cars, which was actually an LCL service, as opposed to "Early Bird" service, which was more a marketing service.

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Re: Early Bird boxcar - By Raritan Clunker on 04/05/16 at 11:31:09 - '50.jpg' 21 KB
Here's another shot, but of the real thing

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Raritan Clunker on 03/30/16 at 10:50:19 - 'NYC_Detroit_1964.jpg' 110 KB
Seems I can't get much past the good Doctor!
 
Yes, we are looking at Detroit, circa 1964

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Raritan Clunker on 03/28/16 at 10:36:14 - 'NYC1a.jpg' 29 KB
Neat stuff! I don't know WHAT made me guess "Michigan", considering I've never been there! Seems like it was a neat place to railfan at one time.....
 
OK, next one.....Should be easy for you super sleuths......

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By firstbelt on 03/17/16 at 22:44:38 - '100_1989a.jpg' 99 KB
Here's a recent photo of a station that doesn't quite have the old standard New York Central "look."  No tracks exist nearby.

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 02/22/16 at 16:53:02 - 'UD_Hunter_NY_PassengerFreight_station_896x672.jpg' 136 KB
Correct. The Stoney Clove & Catskill became part of the Ulster and Delaware and was absorbed into the NYC system.
 
Here is a ground level view. The branch is easy to follow.


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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By J. W. Booth on 02/22/16 at 11:01:00 - 'Untitled.jpg' 159 KB
Well, it's Hunter, NY, though at first I thought it might have been Tannersville.
 
I suspect that the coal shed in the photo may be the Otto Gordon Coal Co.
 
The narrow guage RR was the Stony Clove & Catskill Mountain Railroad
 
LINK URL (New_York_Central_Railroad)

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 02/19/16 at 12:15:02 - 'NYC_896x672.jpg' 100 KB
Freight house and customer at the end of this branch. A 20th century addition to the NYC system and originally narrow gauge. -- GTL

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 01/21/16 at 18:29:55 - 'NYC-2.jpg' 46 KB
GTL

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By Bridge 1A on 12/28/15 at 11:53:16 - 'NYC_BNR_1.jpg' 31 KB
Trains still roll here today......Just now there's more than one tunnel! View looks railroad west......And if you look around, you could get lucky and see more than one at a time!

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 12/23/15 at 09:26:11 - 'Metro_North_RDC_Manitou_NY_70781.jpg' 51 KB
Yes -This is across the Hudson river at Manitou NY. I took the photo from the Bear Mountain bridge.  
 
Here you can see the shelter station behind the RDC on the right and Bear Mountain bridge in the background. The Hudson line is a great place for pictures.

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 12/19/15 at 15:24:38 - 'Metro_North_RDC.jpg' 77 KB
GTL A scenic location for sure - What is the station name ?

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 12/19/15 at 15:19:49 - 'Metro_North_FL9_N_White_Plains_NY_112781_2.jpg' 42 KB
This is North White Plains NY with the shops to the left and storage yard to the right. Notice the ex NYC mu's on the right which were late 50's early 60's additions. A few exNH coaches were also present.
 
Here is an FL9 with a grimy consist approaching the station.

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Re: Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By NEFAN on 12/15/15 at 15:24:49 - 'NYC_yd.jpg' 78 KB
GTL - While a 1980's view, this yard is still very busy ...

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/15/15 at 07:14:56 - '00000008_889x1263.jpg' 198 KB
"AN OIL-ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVE FOR ROAD SERVICE" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/15/15 at 07:13:45 - '00000007-Copy_876x445.jpg' 56 KB
Article below is from the May, 1928, "Railway & Locomotive Engineering", titled "AN OIL-ELECTRIC LOCOMOTIVE FOR ROAD SERVICE".

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/13/15 at 08:03:28 - '00000005_870x181.jpg' 26 KB
"LOCOMOTIVE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENT OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/13/15 at 08:02:52 - '00000004_886x1257.jpg' 258 KB
"LOCOMOTIVE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENT OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/13/15 at 08:01:49 - '00000003_858x1204.jpg' 155 KB
Article below is from the April, 1928, "Railway & Locomotive Engineering", titled "LOCOMOTIVE TERMINAL IMPROVEMENT OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL".

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/11/15 at 17:32:12 - '00000002_874x1255.jpg' 232 KB
"GAS-ELECTRIC CARS OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL LINES" - Continued.

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Re: From The Archives.......... - By gfluck1 on 12/11/15 at 17:31:13 - '00000001_854x1266.jpg' 181 KB
Article below is from the May, 1928, "Railway & Locomotive Engineering", titled "GAS-ELECTRIC CARS OF THE NEW YORK CENTRAL LINES".

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Guess The Location - NYC Lines Edition! - By H. F. MALONE 3041 on 11/30/15 at 14:20:25 - 'NYC1_EVNY63.jpg' 206 KB
I appologize to the Moderator if we already have a thread dedicated to RF.net's FAVORITE Fallen Flags Fourms game. If so, I will remove and re-post accoringly.
 
So, anyone care to "GTL"?
 
"H.F. M."
 


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Re: NREX 5517 - By firstbelt on 06/25/15 at 18:13:40 - 'THB_4-6-4_502_Buffalo_3-1950_Ganger.jpg' 123 KB
One more to add to the pile...
The late John Woodbury left me a number of black and white photo prints, many of which I posted on the CP forum.  John took photos from the 1930's to the 1980's, when he passed away, and apparently traded with other photographers.  This is one of several photos of Toronto, Hamilton & Buffalo equipment and such.
* NYC Hudson (4-6-4) 5313 was sold to the TH&B as their 502; built by Alco in 1929.  Info from steam roster page of
LINK URL
* TH&B retired and scrapped the locomotive, but rebuilt the tender as a steam generator #500 in 1955.
* TH&B sold the tender/steam generator to the Green Mountain in 1986.
* GMRC added the 500 to Steamtown's collection, ending up in Scranton, PA.
LINK URL
 
Here is TH&B 502 in Buffalo, NY in March 1950; photo by a Mr. Ganger.  The original was taken on a bothersome angle, print starting to fade.  I filled in the lower corner in Photoshop.

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Re: Hudson with Smoke Lifters - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 08/31/07 at 23:50:51 - 'SR_Duplex_RLeonard.jpg' 46 KB
How in the world do I do that? Very tedious-ly, with Paint Shop Pro 7.0. I start with a base photo, my own or "borrowed" from the Internet.
 
With the "Century Niagara," I simply cut behind the second driver, reduced the image proportionately, and spliced it in behind the third driver. Of course I had to cut at an appropriate spot on the boiler as well. I took the multiple-bearing crosshead from an L4 or a Niagara, I don't recall which, to replace the alligator crosshead on the J3. I used the double headlight, probably from a Niagara. Of course, there were some other fixes here and there.
 
On my web site you see the Century Duplex. That was a photo my father took in 1939. I lengthened the boiler and spliced in the drivers and cylinders from a photo I had of a PRR T1.
 
The view of S2 Niagara 5500 came off the Internet, but in removing the deflectors I had to rebuild the front. There are some photos of Niagaras out there minus deflectors, but they were the wrong angle, so I think I took the smokebox portion from a P&LE A2 2-8-4, and maybe the Selkirk front end with centered headlight from an L4 (again, using the double headlight).
 
You just have to find images where the engine you are borrowing from is photographed at the same angle, though it's possible to massage part of a locomotive with a good imaging program -- reducing or enlarging, tilting, stretching, and even skewing one way or another for the desired fit. Then you may have to brighten or darken it so it matches the tone of the base locomotive. Then you use a "blur" or "soften" to hide the edges of what you're pasting in. Sometimes you have to rebuild background as well -- trees, buildings, clouds, electric wires, etc.
 
My NYC 4-6-6-4 (on my web site) was based on the UP Challenger builders photo scanned from a book, but with Baker valve gear, roller bearing rods, pilot, etc. from a Niagara builders photo. From the cab and firebox back, it's a Niagara (with firebox and trailing truck lengthened slightly). The domes came from the Niagara for reduced loading gauge. I was able to pretty well emulate the drawing that had appeared some time ago in the "New York Central Headlight" publication. But I didn't want the deflectors, or the headlight on the pilot, so I made up a story to cover that.
 
I have had a lot of fun with this over the years, creating imaginary Peoria & Eastern locomotives as well such as a P&E passenger F7 on "The Peorian" (never existed), a P&E Hudson (never ran to Peoria), and a few shots of the streamlined Mercury-Riley K5 heading P&E passenger trains (it never ran there). I put those up on the P&E Yahoo Group as "April Fool" pranks and some people swallowed them till the moderator cleared things up. I think my funniest effort was to put the diesel lightning stripes on the "Mercury" Pacific -- that's on my web site.
 
I have an ongoing project to convert the PRR T1 to a Garratt. That will take some doing. Another plan is to repaint the Santa Fe's "Blue Goose" 4-6-4 with the "war bonnet" scheme. One of my latest efforts, however, and my first in color, is the Southern Railway duplex based on the streamlined PS4 Pacific. A friend in Tennessee sent me a photo that I modified. It's off-topic, but here it is.

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Re: Hudson with Smoke Lifters - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 08/30/07 at 09:54:21 - 'nyc5500_no_deflectors.jpg' 50 KB
Actually, I remembered that I had worked over the lone S2, No. 5500, minus deflectors and with the lowered headlight. But it has the Selkirk front end like the Niagaras and L4 Mohawks, not the J3 smokebox front.

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Re: Hudson with Smoke Lifters - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 08/29/07 at 19:20:15 - 'century_niagara.jpg' 40 KB
No, the closest I've come is my streamlined "Century Niagara," which isn't on my web site.

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Re: Hudson with Smoke Lifters - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 08/19/07 at 01:19:54 - 'NYC_J3_Deflectors.jpg' 55 KB
I presume if a smoke-deflectored Hudson existed it might have looked something like this.

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Re: Yonkers Power Station wearing ugly hat - By enwhycentral on 06/02/07 at 16:42:16 - 'bilde.jpg' 36 KB
This proposal sets back architecture to pre-caveman times.  Surely a joke!

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Re: West Side freight Line - By GaryNYC45 on 04/19/07 at 09:48:54 - '60th_street_map.gif' 25 KB
And last, this map:

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Re: West Side freight Line - By GaryNYC45 on 04/19/07 at 09:40:06 - 'asort-72nd_St_Train_Yard.jpg' 91 KB
Here is another perspective...

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Re: West Side freight Line - By GaryNYC45 on 04/19/07 at 09:30:28 - 'westside_highway.gif' 66 KB
I have a few, I will try to attach one and I'll search for the other

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Re: The NYC in 2007 - By Chessie 2101 on 04/15/07 at 14:04:47 - 'NYC_2200.GIF' 126 KB
Or a Pacific!

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Re: New here and looking for some help please - 20 - By geraldbrimacombe on 03/15/07 at 18:53:13 - '20th_Century_Limited.jpg' 220 KB
Here is my O-scale model of the 1938 20th Century Limited - an art deco masterpiece.  It shows the "Centuries passing in the night", based on well-known painting done in the 1920's.

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Re: DV Tower - By enwhycentral on 02/24/07 at 15:53:13 - 'DV_Tower.jpg' 148 KB
The photo in my first post is, of course CDTower.  Here is the photo of DV.

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Re: DV Tower - By enwhycentral on 02/24/07 at 15:51:19 - 'MNRR_CD_Tower.jpg' 65 KB
Here's a photo of DV tower.  I believe OW was demolished.  It was similar to DV but sort of built up against the cliff face on the east side of the tracks.
Also, I attach a photo of CD tower just north of Croton-Harmon a few hundred feet before the end of third rail territory.

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Re: fate of the jade green E - By 765 fan on 02/24/07 at 00:39:20 - '0001.GIF' 27 KB
Here you go John!Fresh out of the shops.

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Re: Port Morris Powerplant - By enwhycentral on 02/22/07 at 19:04:07 - 'jmcnpower2.jpg' 33 KB
I know it's not much, but apparently there is a painting of the powerhouse.  
 
See the attached photo.

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Re: NYC Harlem Line Lake Mahopac Branch - By enwhycentral on 02/22/07 at 16:43:57 - '389.jpg' 34 KB
Is this the shelter you're looking for?  It is identified as being at Baldwin Place.

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Big 4 sign - By redpaint on 02/08/07 at 15:24:48 - 'Big_4.jpg' 299 KB
I am new to the group. I have a sign shown in the attached jpg. I got it from the estate of Harold Farnman in Jackson, MI. Mr. Farnman had a clothing store in downtown Jackson and I don't know if this sign came from his business or from the rail station a block away. I know the Cincy. Northern line ended in Jackson at one time and was part of the Big 4. The sign is seven feet tall and made by the "Colman" company. It has carved wood trim that has been gold leafed and a green glass smalts background. It is a very early electric sing and has "Thompson-Huston" sockets. Has anyone ever seen a sign like this in relation to the Big 4 Railroads?
Ken

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Re: L4a and L4b Mohawks - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 02/07/07 at 23:11:15 - 'NYC2967.jpg' 48 KB
Mention of the two L2s that were "test beds" for the L3 reminds me to ask about this. I know that 2995 was one of them (there is a photo of it in the 1940 roster published in Railroad Magazine) and, judging from the specs in the list, the other must have been 2998. As passenger locomotives they had the "cowcatcher" pilots whereas the L2 class typically had the "footboard" pilots of freight engines.
 
In 1953 I photographed L2d No. 2967 at Lansing, Michigan. Notice that she has the "cowcatcher" pilot. But 2967 was not one of the "test beds" for the L3, so why does she not have the "footboard" pilot? How many L2s had the "cowcatcher" pilot, and does this indicate they were used in passenger service?

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Re: What is this NYC item? - By DRAWHEAD on 01/22/07 at 13:52:11 - 'dsc_364_480x360.jpg' 15 KB
Here is a closer photo of the object.

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What is this NYC item? - By DRAWHEAD on 01/22/07 at 13:49:44 - 'dsc_368_480x360.jpg' 5 KB
Any of you NYC experts have any idea what the devil this thing is from I dug this up several years ago along an abandoned NYC line in Northern Ohio.It is made of iron,3 inches long,the top curved area with the raised NYC letters is 1 1/2 inches wide across,and tapers in thickness from 1/2 inches at the curved area to 7/8 inches at the bottom hollow cone shaped area.The actual curved area on top is hollow inside.The bottom part has been broken on one side and is also hollow inside but does not go all the way thru to the top area.Inside the bottom hollow area is a little meta tit protruding that may have gripped a pc. of wood? The broken bottom almost reminds of a miniture sized metal shovel top where you would shove the handle in.I have never seen anything quite like this before and was wondering if anyone on this forum may possibly have an idea as to what this is?It was obviously something that broke and was discarded into the ditch from a passing NYC train or may have been something or part of a tool that railroad track workers may have used and then discarded when being broken?

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Re: NYC(?) mystery photos - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 09/16/06 at 13:49:19 - 'mystery_photo.jpg' 91 KB
And here's the second view, which offers more clues.  The tower is identified as "9", and to its right is a double-track trolley line of some kind.  I thought first of the B&A, which did number its towers (as did the NH -- another possibility), but B&A Tower 9 was at Allston, in the midst of metro Boston, and this scene is out in the country somewhere.
 
Any help gratefully appreciated.

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Re: NYC(?) mystery photos - By CSXvet on 09/16/06 at 13:49:19 - 'NYC_mystery_photo.jpg' 95 KB
And here's the second view, which offers more clues.  The tower is identified as "9", and to its right is a double-track trolley line of some kind.  I thought first of the B&A, which did number its towers (as did the NH -- another possibility), but B&A Tower 9 was at Allston, in the midst of metro Boston, and this scene is out in the country somewhere.
 
Any help gratefully appreciated.

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NYC(?) mystery photos - By CSXvet on 09/16/06 at 13:46:20 - 'NYC_mystery2.jpg' 103 KB
These two photos were recently posted on eBay without any identification.  The loco and train view looks like NYC in the 1910s or '20s, and the engine number appears to be in the 3000-series, which would fit for a Pacific in that era, and the freight house at left looks like an NYC standard design.  But if so, where is it?

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Re: 20th Century Ltd.  Leaving Chicago - By hudsonelectric on 09/06/06 at 20:36:27 - 'NYC001.jpg' 199 KB
on Sep 5th, 2006, 5:09pm, Hank wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Don't know about this photo.  I wonder, however, the artist and title of
painting onced used for Leanin' Tree Christmas card depicting the Century leaving Chicago behind streamlined Hudson.  Any idea?

 
I know Howard Fogg did a number of Leanin' Tree cards. As for the Century photo, is this the one you're referring to?


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Peoria & Eastern (Cab Lettering) Question - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 07/30/06 at 09:47:23 - 'PE17small.jpg' 29 KB
I belong to the Peoria & Eastern Yahoo group, where members have several photos of P&E steam locomotives. A photo of No. 17 (Pacific type) shows small lettering under the engine number on the cab, which I would have expected to be the class (K14b) following NYC system practice familiar to me. However, in a blowup those letters do not seem to be "K14b" but look more like "P&E" (as on the upper part of the tender) though not very clearly. The photo shows the older lettering style and was evidently taken before the 1936 renumbering when the lettering style was changed. Does anyone know about cab lettering practice in this era, and what might have appeared below the number on the cab?

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Re: Bridges at Point Pleasant WV - By co_riff on 04/01/06 at 12:45:26 - 'i41021592_85915_2-1-.jpg' 64 KB
While everyone is on the subject thought I would give you a picture of our mothman here in Point Pleasant.Curtis

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Bridges at Point Pleasant WV - By co_riff on 03/18/06 at 20:03:18 - 'Silver_Bridge_Railroad_Bridge.jpg' 119 KB
Was going through my late father-in-laws pictures and found this of the Silver Bridge and NYC train bridge in Point Pleasant WV. Point Pleasant is in the lower half of the picture,the Ohio River in the middle and Kanauga Ohio in the upper part.Don't have a exact date but we think it is in the early 60's.The NS Secondary uses this bridge now.The Silver Bridge colliasped in 1967. Curtis
 
 LINK URL


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Last NYC Passenger to St Louis - By Steven_C on 02/11/06 at 11:15:02 - 'DCP02742.jpg' 245 KB
Recently I came across your website, while reviewing your site I saw a request about the New York - St Louis Vanish.  My Father William H. Crouch was the last New York Central Conductor on Train Number 312 from Indianapolis to St Louis that made its last run to St Louis.  I have a newspaper article from the local paper in Mattoon Ill.  In that article are pictures of the last crews going westbound and eastbound.  My Grandfather George W. Crouch who was a section foreman for the NYC for 40 years lived in Mattoon Ill and met my Father is also in the picture.  My Father continued to work as a Conductor for the PennCentral out of Indianapolis with runs to St Louis until his retirement in 1980’s.  I am fortunate to have a piece of America History that I will be able to pass down to my children and grandchildren and maybe to their grandchildren.  I have my Father’s conductor suit, conductor hat, and all of the buttons, pins (New York Central & PennCentral), which went with the suit.  My family lived in Danville, IN the New York Central tracks was just a stone throw away from our house and the Avon Yard was 7 miles east of Danville, as a kid I walked those train tracks looking for wild berries and mushroom not to mention passing the Avon Yard many times on my way to Indianapolis.
 
 
 


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Re: A NYC West Shore Story - By TAB on 11/17/05 at 08:20:59 - 'NYC_West_Shore.jpg' 149 KB
First...Hey daddaj...I am looking for the drawings. I know I had them in my hand within the last year but in moving things around they are in a box somewhere. However in my search I came across the following...
 
Next...Hi NYC Fans…The photo below was taken at Haworth NJ by Robert Clausen, a fellow railfan who lived there. From what I remember, He told me that this was either the last or one of the last Saturday trains from West Haverstraw to Weehawken. He took the picture for me as a favor as I could not be there to record the event. I know that all West Shore passenger service ended in December of 1959. The photo is obviously not a winter shot. Can anyone help date the time frame in which the photo may have been taken? Thanks…Tom

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Re: Charlotte NY Blast Furnace Circa 1910 - By toddsyr on 11/15/05 at 20:18:52 - 'Mining_Blast_Furnace_1910_Charlotte_New_York.jpg' 161 KB
The second pic is a black and white photo, circa 1910, from:
 
LINK URL

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Charlotte NY Blast Furnace Circa 1910 - By toddsyr on 11/15/05 at 20:15:49 - 'Blast_Furnace_Charlotte_NY_Circa_1907.jpg' 53 KB
While seaching the internet for pictures, I came across these shots of a blast furnace in Charlotte, NY. I'm posting here as this was at one time NYC territory. I gleaned the following information from:
 
LINK URL
 
" 1869  
Charlotte incorporated as a village.
Blast furnace built at Charlotte to manufacture pig iron. The 16 acre facility had 1200 feet of river frontage, and boasted a stack 22 feet in diameter, 94 feet tall.  In one hour the process used 100 tons of limestone and ore, and 25 tons of coal to produce 40 tons of pig iron. "
 
If anyone could provide further details, I'd appreciate it.
The first color postcard is from:
 
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Re: NYCRR mile markers 250-246. - By toddsyr on 10/10/05 at 21:07:25 - 'Palmyra_six_tracks.jpg' 370 KB
My guess would be your speaking of the area in the map below. Just East of Palmyra, the original four track New York Central and Hudson Railroad dipped South enough to brush up against the original two track West Shore Railroad. This covered a distance of about a mile and a half. Hope this helps!

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Re: Surviving NYC Electrics? - By Alcofan on 06/12/05 at 14:36:53 - 'NYC278.jpg' 85 KB
Overall, there are at least 3 and maybe 4 NYC electrics still around in museums.
Here is a shot I took of # 278; a T3a, built by Alco/GE in 1916 which is is owned by the Mohawk & Hudson Chapter, NRHS.
It was a star in a movie made in Grand Central in the mid to late 80's. The movie was called" The House on Sullivan Street"

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Re: Scrap Lines in Buffalo (Steam Locomotives) - By GP38 on 06/05/05 at 13:02:41 - 'mohawk_2933.jpg.jpg' 470 KB
It`s to bad that the WNYHS wasn`t a better run historical society and they weren`t around longer (1954 say) and they didn`t have more funds. Do you think that a NYC Hudson, Mikado or a L4 Mohawk could have been saved and added to their collection. I would have loved to have seen for myself all those doomed steamers and have walked beside them. Damn you NYC for being stubborn and stupid for not saving their steam lovomotives like the PRR and NYC&STL did.  Just imagine if there was more of these.

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Re: Penn Central? - By Alcofan on 06/01/05 at 21:26:08 - 'PCtrainchemcoast.jpg' 32 KB
This is one of my favorite Penn Central photo.

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Re: "Mercury Green" Es - By NYC_Dave on 12/31/04 at 09:35:24 - 'nyc4053-4055-4056_Sept61.jpg' 13 KB
This was hashed out a couple years ago on the other NYC forum (Railroad.net). Here are the relevant responses for your question:
 
NYC_Dave  
RE: Jade Green E-unit road numbers??
The E8s were 4053 and 4083. The E7 B-unit was 4107.  Source: "New York Central System Diesel Locomotives" by Edson, Vail & Smith, TLC Publishing
Message posted 10/23/2002 6:26:00 AM PST  
 
 
trlinkcaso  
RE: Jade Green E-unit road numbers??
The E-7 B-unit was NOT 4107 as stated in the TLC book New York Central System Locomotives. The unit was 4108. Even if you blow up the photo in the TLC book, it's 4108. There is also a good photo in Morning Sun's book Trackside in the Albany gateway and the unit is clearly 4108 - even though it is also misquoted as being 4107. Can't figure out how the authors of two different books can't tell the difference between a 7 and an 8.
Message posted 10/25/2002 5:36:00 PM PST  
 
 
ramcat  
RE: Jade Green E-unit road numbers??
All three units made it into Penn Central but not as Green Monsters, the name coined by Collinwood Locomotive Shop forces. The green didn't last very long. I don't know the exact date each one was repainted but it was most likely in 1963 or 1964.
When the three units were painted Century Green there were also three units painted in black and three in grey.
Message posted 11/1/2002 3:03:00 PM PST  
 
 
nyc4055(black)-4053(green)-4056(gray) shown below, Sept 61.

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Michigan Central Depot - By MichCentral on 11/04/04 at 15:26:52 - 'MCTD-2.jpg' 48 KB
I am looking for any photos of the Michigan Central Depot in Detroit, Mi. from the "Glory Days". I do have many photos of it now, in it's sad state of disrepair.
 My Grandfather was a conductor on the New York Central Railway until 1960 and worked many years out of that building. He ran from Detoit to Chicago. Thank you for any input...

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Re: Grand Central Station Tennessee Pink Marble - By ccazanave on 11/04/04 at 15:13:48 - '001_angelica_gold.jpg' 22 KB
Here is a swatch of the most likely interior of the CRR ferry Terminal on West Street and maybe the interior of the walls of the Old Pennsylvania Station New York City

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Re: Grand Central Station Tennessee Pink Marble - By ccazanave on 11/04/04 at 15:11:12 - 'LightRoseSelect_LR.jpg' 33 KB
Here is a sample of the tennessee pink

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Re: NYC in Corning, NY - By Roger_Hensley on 09/19/04 at 22:47:53 - 'nycyard2.jpg' 64 KB
The other half of the photo...


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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By njvike on 09/07/04 at 19:49:31 - 'NYC.jpg' 95 KB
Saw this one at Winslow Jct on 5/2001  
 
 
 
 


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Re: New York Central reference - By Dr. Richard Leonard on 08/01/04 at 22:45:56 - 'nycs-2.jpg' 67 KB
A second photo.

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Old New York Central switchlock for sale on Ebay - By travelrobb on 05/05/04 at 09:25:25 - '122-2231_IMG_2.jpg' 232 KB
Hi there--
 
I thought you'd be interested to know that I'm auctioning an old steel heart-shaped switch lock marked "NYCRR." The lock has a patent date of 1878 and keying that conforms to use on the Ohio Central Lines. I've pasted a picture below. If you want to see more pictures, or have other questions, email me at robb.mandelbaum@verizon.net.
 
If you're interested, the auction is eBay number 2242406556, and you can find it at LINK URL .
The auction ends Sunday night.  
 
I've also listed a red globe cast "NYCS." It's 4 1/4 inches tall, designed to fit a Dietz Vesta lantern, and in excellent condition. That auction is number 2243271489, and you'll find it at
LINK URL . That auction ends Thursday, May 13th.
 
Click on "View seller's other items" for more railroad collectables.
 
Thanks very much,
 
 
Robb

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By geepnine on 04/01/04 at 19:07:53 - 'NYC_4-6-4_5289s_2_touched_up-2.gif' 260 KB
Not real!

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By geepnine on 04/01/04 at 19:06:49 - 'NYC_2-8-2_2243.jpg' 54 KB
Real!

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By geepnine on 04/01/04 at 19:05:18 - 'NYC_2-8-2_1966s_touch_up-3.gif' 292 KB
No real!

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By geepnine on 04/01/04 at 19:04:24 - 'NYC_2-8-2_1966s.jpg' 64 KB
Real.

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By rlsteam on 04/01/04 at 11:19:27 - 'nyc_4917.jpg' 59 KB
But I also like the streamlined K5 Pacifics on the Mercury / James Whitcomb Riley, especially after they received their "lightning stripes."
 
This message posted on April 1.

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Re: Which NYC locomotive`s are your favorite? - By rlsteam on 04/01/04 at 08:20:18 - 'nyc_3600.jpg' 30 KB
Personally, I like the Z2 class 2-10-2s, built in 1950.
 
This message posted on April 1.

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Re: Need Image of Mercury / Riley - By geepnine on 03/29/04 at 10:04:19 - 'NYC_4-6-2_4935.jpg' 51 KB
I think I downloaded a picture of a NYC Pacific, but the picture is alittle dark. Here it is.

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By geepnine on 03/28/04 at 19:46:41 - 'NYC_2-8-2_6374_-2-10-2_.gif' 115 KB
Two more NYC for you.   Another 2-10-2 and a 2-10-0. Enjoy!!!

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By rlsteam on 03/28/04 at 01:48:54 - 'nyc_3600_imaginary.jpg' 30 KB
Well, you got me to thinking, so here's the class Z2a 2-10-2 of 1950. (It turns out there was an earlier class Z 2-10-2 on the Boston & Albany, ten engines built in 1919, which were sold to the Canadian National in the 1930s.) For commentary, see my "New York Central Collection" web site.

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By clehman on 03/27/04 at 21:55:42 - '3130.jpg' 60 KB
The 3135 was a bit larger than I thought it would be, hopefully you can see it OK.  Here is a shot of the front of 3130 from a different book.  Hope this one comes through better than the 3135.  Here goes again!!

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By clehman on 03/27/04 at 21:52:50 - '3135.jpg' 156 KB
Finally - I'm going to try and attach the builder's photo (as much of it as I could scan) to this message.  This is the first time I've tried to attach a photo to a message Forum, so I've no idea how it will turn out.  But here goes!

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By rlsteam on 03/25/04 at 23:50:01 - 'ple_9414_imaginary.jpg' 55 KB
Very interesting, especially the 2-10-2. I see your interests are a bit more historic. I would have used an H10 for the 2-10-2 so I could incorporate the one-piece cast trailing truck and Elesco feedwater heater.
 
Here is my A2b class P&LE Berkshire with disc drivers. That was the only change I made but it took all day to get the shading right (or nearly right) and rebuild the rods.

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By geepnine on 03/25/04 at 23:06:28 - 'NYC_2-8-2_1966s_touch_up.gif' 292 KB
I have another NYC steamer. This one set  me back half an hour.  This is a NYC  2-10-2 that would have been used on the WestVirginia secondary between Deepwater WV with it`s connection to the Virginian RR and the rest of the NYC system over the OhioRiver. Enjoy!

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By rlsteam on 03/25/04 at 17:56:28 - 'nyc_5646_imaginary.jpg' 64 KB
The process is extremely tedious, especially if you have to build something from scratch as with the front of the "J4a" Hudson. I copy and paste parts of different locomotives together using a "base" locomotive. The "S3a" was an L4b, with PT tender, firebox and trailing truck borrowed from an S1b and the overfire jets from a P&LE A2a. Boilers have to be lengthened (resizing to match angles), domes and other parts have to be moved, piping has to be rearranged, handrails etc. have to be constructed (usually by modifying existing features). Parts that are pasted on have to be resized, rotated, squeezed, darkened, lightened, etc. to match their surroundings, and all "joints" between pasted areas have to be softened or pasted over to hide the cracks. You have to find a source that shows the "loaning" locomotive from a similar angle to the "target" (of course, they can be mirrored unless it's a matter of appliances found only on one side of the locomotive). Then the numbers have to be changed and adjusted for angle, brightness, etc. and the background and foreground massaged.
 
My current project is to put disc drivers on the A2 Berkshire It's a mystery to me why such late locomotives were built without them. It wasn't a matter of small size, since the Green Bay and Western had some on a Consolidation and the Chicago Great Western retrofitted a Ten-Wheeler with them, and some Mikes had them. I am borrowing the drivers from an L3 builder's photo (mirrored), then squeezing them to fit the angle and adjusting the coloration. Of course, all the rods will have to be rebuilt.
 
Below is another project, the Dreyfus-styled duplex drive 4-4-4-4. Of course, there could be only one source for the running gear -- the PRR T-1. The NYC would never have "borrowed" from the PRR, of course, but it was the only thing available. The base locomotive was J3 No. 5446, photographed by my father in 1939 in Chicago. I call it the V1a, and changed the number tentatively to 5646.
 
I de-linked by previous set of four "fantasy" locomotives until I hear from the owners of the original images. George Elwood said he would contact them but I have yet to hear anything. As soon as the P&LE A2 is ready, though, I will have another set of four and can put the page back up.

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By rlsteam on 03/24/04 at 19:21:50 - 'nyc_6116_imaginary.jpg' 61 KB
Yes, I would still like the L4b builder's photo, because I might not have got the side view quite right for my "J4a." By the way, below is my latest creation, the S3a 4-8-4 (based on the L4b, a photo I took in Michigan in the 1950s).

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By rlsteam on 03/23/04 at 22:31:54 - 'nyc_5480_imaginary.jpg' 27 KB
This is what I needed the builder's photos for. Instead, I had to build the front end myself with my imaging program. It took a while! I also enlarged the driver diameter from the original builder's photo of S1a 6000. I call this the  J4a "Super-Duper Hudson," successor to the J3 "Super Hudson." I would have used Poppet valves if I could have found an image from the correct angle -- maybe for the J4b class!

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Re: Builders Photos of L4 and A2 - By geepnine on 03/18/04 at 17:05:46 - 'NYC_Mohawk_4-8-2_3001.jpg' 48 KB
Opps wrong picture.

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Re: New York Central Sleeper Car - On Home Rail so - By walterkebalo on 02/09/04 at 19:57:11 - 'NYC_Lebanon_Valley_4.1.jpg' 75 KB
No this is not the car.  The car is a NYC valley series car known as the Lebanon Valley.  The location of the car is in Belleveu, Ohio on the NS.  Sometime soon, the car will get new wheels and then move in freight service to Springfield, Mass. See the picture below.  Thanks for asking!  W.


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