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0-6-0 boiler rebuild.
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« Reply #80 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:09pm »
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As she built up pressure we started to notice little leaks at fittings which is easy to fix by tightening the fittings. She held pressure and the safeties both lifted. Here you can see a picture with her one safety popping off.

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« Reply #81 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:11pm »
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As Bobby was testing the hand pump, we noticed that there was water spraying out of the top of the axel pump. I will explain and show pictures later. Don't loose hope Bobby.

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« Reply #82 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:14pm »
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And the moment of excitement as Bobby backed her down toward the yard.

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« Reply #83 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:15pm »
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Pete and Bobby looking at the water glass and fire.

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« Reply #84 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:21pm »
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Here is a video of Bobby coming off of the turn table. At this point Bobby was having trouble with the delivery of water into the boiler so he only backed it down so far and then back up onto the steaming bay. Toward the end of the video, you can see that he has blow by coming out of the stack. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qshc646P4rM

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« Reply #85 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:25pm »
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In this video, Bobby heads back to the steaming bay and you can really see the blow by. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4627hBptJL4

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« Reply #86 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:35pm »
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At this point, Pete and Ron 2 had to leave to head back to the BCRR, but Bruce and I stayed behind to take a look at why Bobby was having such significant blow by and hardly any power. So we wheeled her into Bob's shop. Once inside, Bruce said let's have a look at the valves and pistons and insisted on taking the head covers off. If I hadn't seen it with my own eyes, I would have never believed anyone. We got the first cover off and I got closer and noticed that the gasket appeared to have writing on it. Upon further inspection, I said, "That's a dollar bill!" everyone thought I was joking and Bruce then took a look and said it sure is. So Bobby has dubbed his 0-6-0 "Old Dollar Bill" We said lets look at the other side and sure enough, there was another dollar bill in the side as well for a gasket. So now this is the running joke with this engine.

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« Reply #87 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:36pm »
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Here is the right side.

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« Reply #88 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 4:51pm »
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Sorry, I didn't take any pictures of the valve. Bruce and Bob pulled the valve out and we found out that Bobby's engine has spool valves. When bruce got the valve out he noticed that the rings were all collapsed and seized up. So he took some Blaster and was able to free them up and get them to expand but brought up a very good point, that as long as we have them out, we should go ahead and replace them with new ones, so later he was on the phone with Mike V. from L.E. ordering some new ones as well as piston rings as I will get to here shortly.

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« Reply #89 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 5:03pm »
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Now comes the pistons. Bruce, Unka Bob, Bobby and I decided that, What the hell, we're into it this far, let's pull the pistons. Bob couldn't turn the rod and looking close noticed that someone had driven a TEENY TINY ITSY BITSY roll pin through the cross head and into the rod on the piston. So more fun began as Bob had to fabricate and modify a center punch to knock it out. After finally getting it out, Bruce and Bob got the piston to slide out and as it emerged I said "HOLY CRAP!! there are no rings on that piston!" Bruce said the same thing and said that explains alot about the blow by that was happening. Here is a picture of the right side.

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« Reply #90 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 5:11pm »
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Another picture of Bruce and Bob

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« Reply #91 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 5:24pm »
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Here is a picture of the piston with no rings. We all sat scratching our heads saying,"WHO WOULD BUILD AN ENGINE AND FORGET TO PUT RINGS ON THE PISTON?!" I said, "The same one that used dollar bills for gaskets!"  
However, Pete did say that they might have used synthetic ones and they just disintegrated and were blown out by the exhaust.


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« Reply #92 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 5:26pm »
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Here is a picture of the steam chest on the right side.

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Now, as I said earlier in my posts, the axle pump. Bobby decided to pull the axle pump off and see what was leaking on it. As I said earlier, there was water spraying out of the top of it every time it pumped. Upon pulling it, I put it in a bucket of water and had Bob D. pump it as I held it and plugged the ports and we found 3 pin holes on the top of the pump so Bob it going to fix that. WOW!! what a day! and poor Bruce was so exhausted having entertained our guest from Ill and then not expecting to pull an engine apart. I think Bruce and I spent at least 3 to 3 1/2 hrs at Unka Bob's. I hope you got some rest Bruce. Bobby should have rings by the end of the week and hopefully get the engine back in service. Once again, Don't loose hope Bobby.


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« Reply #94 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 5:48pm »
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Well I am POOPED after typing all of that. Please feel free to correct me guys if I misquoted someone or misspoke.  
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« Reply #95 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 7:44pm »
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Russell thanks for posting that update. I decided today the best thing I could do to lighten my mood was to go shoot people with paintballs! I feel better.


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« Reply #96 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 8:11pm »
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Hahaha that's funny.


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« Reply #97 on: Jan 13th, 2013, 8:36pm »
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Bobby - hang in there!  Sounds like you are in the good hands.  A little more shop time and hopefully be back on the rails.  
 
Glad to hear that you got some frustration out with a little paint ball.
 
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« Reply #98 on: Jan 14th, 2013, 11:10am »
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   Well guys, as an old live steamer, I feel that the day was a positive. The boiler, which is brandy new, fired beautifully. Made steam easily. drafted really nicely, and the inovative grates worked well. So thats nothing to lament about. Considering how much of the engine has already been apart and put back together.
    BTW, the 'engine' part (cylinders, pistons, spool valves, cylinder heads) have never been apart since Bobby t. has owned this engine. And the stuff that we found, while not nice, is better to correct now than try to run and have to do it latter. And, most of the parts that we looked at are OK. But the new piston rings and new spool vlave rings were needed  to say the least. Other than a little honeing in the cylinder, I think this thing is gonna run like a scaled dog when its back together.
   Oh, that tender looks nice too Bobby.
 
Russ, that pic of my hands with the piston and rod in them really makes me look like an old man. Boy, do my hands look old!WOW


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   Oh, and something else that I forgot to mention. The damn thing ran onto the turn table, onto the table lead and back. Past the water tank twice. For a first time out, with so much already done to this engine, That ain't too bad!!!!! Bobby, your in the home streach. Even though it may not seem so, you are.


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