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Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2011, 9:14am
Again, I thought we'd start fresh for 2011.......After 33 pages at 20 replies each, I thought that going back to look for a particular post or photo could get onerous after a while, so let's carry on with a clean slate. If you guys don't agree and just want to keep adding to the original thread, just say so, and we'll kill this one.
 
Ralph
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Jan 4th, 2011, 8:00am
Ok! I will start. Here is an SW-7 iv'e been doing for quite awhile now. I buoght this off of Ebay a few years ago as Reading 2716. Although it looked good, it just wasn't right for the Reading. I made moves to try to correct the details but it just wasn't working. The paint was starting to crack when trying to remove the decals to place them in the right areas,(I used Tide detergent). After that I decided to just strip it completely and model it after LV SW-7 221. I have to finish decaling it, sealing it, and adding details. The time I get to work on my stuff is limited, so it's always slow going .
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Jan 4th, 2011, 8:02am
And the cab.
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Jan 4th, 2011, 10:37pm
Looking good so far!
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Jan 5th, 2011, 7:58pm
Thank you S-12_Dave. It may be awhile before I can get to it again, I can't seem to find time this winter to work on my projects.
Posted by: 2771-chris Posted on: Jan 9th, 2011, 11:53am
Good Morning All,
  How about a trio of LV geeps,A 9 and two 18's? All units are LL Proto 2000.

 
Units 300/03 were painted using SCII paints.I used tuscan on 303.The cornel red on 300 was bought at a hobby shop in Allentown yrs. ago were the shop owner had mixed it himself.MS decals were used on all three units.




 
I used Modelmaster insignia red on the 305 to give the unit that brighter look.

Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Jan 11th, 2011, 12:25pm
Chris,
 
 As always, very nice. Did you use a Phase III GP9 for the 300? I have been wanting to get the 300 and 301 done, but was hoping Atlas would get around to doing them someday in the final paint schemes  
Posted by: mtcg16 Posted on: Jan 12th, 2011, 5:01pm
Nice Pictures
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Jan 12th, 2011, 6:13pm
Wow!!  Very nice modeling!
Posted by: 2771-chris Posted on: Jan 14th, 2011, 4:43pm
Thanks for the kind words guys.
Brian,yes its a phIII GP9.I wish I would have gotten the other one when I had the chance so I could do the 301.I would like to see Atlas produce all the geep 9 phases and revamp the geep 7.In HO I wish they would offer what they offer in N scale namely the geep 30's,35's.Alco C628/30's and revamp the RS3.
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jan 18th, 2011, 12:08pm
Here's a quick update about my Delaware River bridge project (N scale).  Two of the three main trusses are now in place (I am modelling three of the five):
 

 
My full build thread is over on the Railwire at http://therailwire.net/forum/index.php/topic,10326.0.html
 
   Frank
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Jan 18th, 2011, 1:38pm
Very nice work, Frank. How much of the rest of the layout is complete?
 
Ralph
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2011, 10:42am
Hi Ralph, thanks for the comments.  I have trackwork complete, but little if any scenery.  Phillipsburg gives me switching opportunities (freight station and team track), and will allow future expansion to the PRR yard.  
 
Someday (when the kids go to college?) I would like to include operations west to Bethlehem and Florence yard.  Here is Phillipsburg - note I did not have room to include the siding (track 3?) and 3rd diamond:
 

 
  Frank
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Jan 19th, 2011, 11:14am
Frank -
 
That's OK, I know all about not having enough space! Missing the 3rd crossing is no biggie, it seems you've captured the flavor nicely......I would have pegged it for P'burg even if you hadn't told me. Looking forward to more when you can show us.
 
RAH
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Jan 26th, 2011, 1:30pm
Hi everyone! I have a question, maybe someone can help me out . I have this HO MRC LV C-420 that I bought at an auction 6 years ago. Iv'e never run it until this Christmas. Upon running it I found that it makes a noise, for lack of a better description (clack, clack, clack) . Coincedently it sounds like an alco, and the faster you run the engine the sound matches it. I started wondering if maybe it was like that on purpose, until I checked one on Youtube. That guys MRC C-420 ran very smooth. Does anyone know anything about these MRC's ? The only thing iv'e read about these was in an earlyer post that they wern't the best running engines. I really like this engine and would like to fix it if it is broke, but I don't know how to take the shell off. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks everyone.
Joe.
Posted by: MKohan Posted on: Jan 28th, 2011, 8:56am
The MRC units are notorious for gear problems. If the unit is new, as it sounds, it may be a case where the gears are not sitting properly in the truck assembly. The unit may also have a gear that is stuck, either by a burr that needs to be removed, or it may be in need of lubrication.
 
Don't be afraid to take it apart. Just take your time and do not force anything. Keep a notebook handy and make note of the order.
 
If I remember correctly, I was able to swap out some of the MRC gears with Athearn ones.
 
One other thing to look for (which is unlikely, but I have come across this) is a wire that is being hit by the drive assembly.
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Jan 28th, 2011, 7:25pm
on Jan 28th, 2011, 8:56am, MKohan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The MRC units are notorious for gear problems. If the unit is new, as it sounds, it may be a case where the gears are not sitting properly in the truck assembly. The unit may also have a gear that is stuck, either by a burr that needs to be removed, or it may be in need of lubrication.
 
Don't be afraid to take it apart. Just take your time and do not force anything. Keep a notebook handy and make note of the order.
 
If I remember correctly, I was able to swap out some of the MRC gears with Athearn ones.
 
One other thing to look for (which is unlikely, but I have come across this) is a wire that is being hit by the drive assembly.

Thank you for your help, I was thinking the same thing about the gears. When I ran it I noticed that it moved slightly when it made the noise, it would make sense that maybe the gears are not sitting right in the truck. I have a feeling that it's in the gears anyway. Thanks again for your help .
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Mar 12th, 2011, 7:32am
I finally got some time to work on 221. I had the grab irons on but I have to redo them, the paint was too thick.  
Joe.
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Mar 12th, 2011, 7:47am
Here is a shot of the other side.
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Mar 12th, 2011, 7:57am
Here is a better shot, I don't like the way the flash throws the color off. Always happens when I photograph my trains in the basement.
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Mar 12th, 2011, 5:51pm
on Mar 12th, 2011, 7:57am, gp7633 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here is a better shot, I don't like the way the flash throws the color off. Always happens when I photograph my trains in the basement.

 
That's a common occurence. I've noticed it when photographing layouts at train shows. I look forward to seeing your SW when it's completed.  
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: Mar 13th, 2011, 4:16pm
Thanks Matthew-L, i'm almost finished but have a few more things to do.
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Mar 24th, 2011, 2:32pm
Well, after much thought and sleepless nights, I have finally decided to move from HO to N Scale. The house my wife and I bought has plenty of space but my two little ones pretty kill any space I would have for a LV-RDG empire (and they will not be out of the house for a long time).  
 
 So I started the sell-off of my HO items on Ebay. This is killing me since I have been collecting for over 30 years so this still does not sit well with me but again I have no space and may never have the space I need so it's on to N Scale. I have space for a 10 x 12 layout so in N Scale that would be pretty good size. Quite a few Atlas N Scale LV engines out there but no N5G's If anybody knows of any one or company that makes LV N5G's, please let me know. Sad day!
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Mar 28th, 2011, 12:14am
Walther's has Northeast style hacks like the LV's,but ya gotta paint them..They're not perfect,but in N,they're good enough..
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Apr 7th, 2011, 10:36pm
Brian, welcome to the dark side!  
 
What era are you planning to model?  It's a great time to be in N.
 
  Frank
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Apr 8th, 2011, 11:49am
Hi, I am modeling about the same era I was planning in HO and that is 1970-1976. Pretty much the last paint schemes the Valley used until her merge into Conrail. I am also modeling the Reading so I am hoping to do a relatively large yard like Allentown to have the two together. Also, being a Maryland resident, I might pick up a couple Western Maryland SD units to interchange with the Reading.
 
 I am selling my HO stuff off pretty quickly, still have a lot to go yet but I am enjoying picking up new stuff in N. I found some people that do a beautiful job making custom diesels and cabooses. I plan to start building in about 3 years. My youngest is 2 so once he is a little older then it will be safe to start building it  
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Apr 15th, 2011, 10:55am
Awesome, that's my era as well. †Atlas has 70s N scale road diesels covered, with RS11, C420, C628, GP38AC, GP38-2, and U23B models. †Life-Like makes FA cab units and RS-2s. †About the only diesels truly missing in plastic are Baldwins.
 
Recent releases of intermodal flats (BLMA and Trainworx) will fill out my Apollo consists, while Eastern Seaboard is releasing an X58 later this year - schweet!
 
 †Frank
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: May 5th, 2011, 5:12pm
Hi everyone! I finaly finished my SW-7 221, it's been more than a year since I stripped it and started the repaint. I'm very happy with the way it turned out, although in these pictures you can't see the weathering that well (my pictures of models never turn out good) it looks great in person though.
Joe..
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: May 5th, 2011, 5:22pm
Alright that didn't work. I'll try it again.
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: May 5th, 2011, 5:27pm
Here is a shot of the back.
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: May 5th, 2011, 6:01pm
Joe,
 
    Nice work! Care to share what paint you used? The "trombone mutes" are a neat touch.
    Bud
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: May 6th, 2011, 7:52pm
Thanks Bud. I used Floquil Signal Red. I'm really disapointed how the pictures turned out, they look washed out and you can't see the weathering. I don't know if it's my camera or the lighting. I see so many good pics of peoples models and they look great, I don't know how they do it.
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: May 7th, 2011, 6:17pm
Joe,
 
Your model looks great! Nice Job!
 
It's the "flash" on your camera thats making everything look "washed out". Try shutting the flash off.... photograph the model outside in natural light where a flash is not needed. Or try a spotlight....but diffuse the light for more "even" light.  I never use flash when shooting my layout.
Posted by: gp7633 Posted on: May 8th, 2011, 8:00am
S-12_Dave Thank you! My wife bought me this camera to take in my work truck for any trains I might see (instead of having to use a disposible). It works great for that, but model railroads not so much. This will sound dumb, but I haven't figured out how to shut the flash off . Her camera is really good and I can shut the flash off on it, maybe I should go back to that one. We use my camera all the time now because it is more compact. I tried taking some outside but they turned out blury.        Thanks again S-12_Dave.
Joe.
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: May 16th, 2011, 10:41am
With rain all last weekend, I made some progress on my Delaware River bridge scene.  Here's an overall view from the PA side:
 

 
This is a view looking directly up-river (with the PRR Bel-Del on the far right):

 
And a closeup of the newly-installed deck (so my N scale conductors won't fall through to the water):

 
  Frank
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: May 16th, 2011, 3:43pm
Frank,
    VERY NICE!!! Even in N scale I'll bet it is "huge", it is impressive workmanship for sure. What is the overall length of this?  
     Bud
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: May 16th, 2011, 11:01pm
Thanks for the post, Bud. †Overall it's about 52". †I kept the deck trusses full size at 176 feet (13" in N) but only included 3. †Building all 6 of the prototype trusses would have driven me over the edge!!!
 
 †Frank
Posted by: chuck Posted on: May 29th, 2011, 5:47pm
Hi Guys,
 
I thought some of you might be interested in this.  I finished my version of an almost as built sand car.  Some of you may have seen Lee's O scale model which he did by piecing together decals to get most of the lettering.  Fortunately for me, Bud had Bob Anson make up a S scale decal set using the ARHS lettering diagram for the car.  I contacted Bob and he made me an HO set.
 
I found the origin of the sand cars to be pretty intriguing.  Chuck Yungkurth sent me a shop card for the 50000-500089 series covered hoppers and some photos.  The 90 cement cars in this series, which were the LV's first covered hoppers, were built at Packerton in 1930 from hoppers.  The series isnít listing in my 46 Register.  Based on the roof,  Iím positive some of these cars were rebuilt with new trucks and brakes into the sand cars in 1950.  I found it interesting that the sand cars had a new date of 1950.  I thought I read somewhere were railroads for tax purposes would totally rebuild cars and keep the original built date.
 
Chuck
Posted by: chuck Posted on: May 29th, 2011, 5:51pm
As usual, my photos don't seem to want to display even though I preview them. †I'll try this one taken on my layout.
 
Chuck
Posted by: chuck Posted on: May 30th, 2011, 9:17am
I think I appeased the cookie monster  , so I'll try posting the photos again.
Posted by: chuck Posted on: May 30th, 2011, 9:35am
Sorry guys for the reposting.  The photos are now displaying.  It seems there was a little operator error.  Needed some review on the "cookie" and "modify" buttons.
 
Chuck
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Jun 7th, 2011, 9:39pm
Here's a car I just finished.  Jim Dalberg tipped me off about the Sunshine Mini-kit.  Had to wait sometime before it arrived to do the sides.  The sides are very fragile, but I liked the decals.
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Jun 7th, 2011, 9:41pm
Here's a close-up of the tie downs and rigging.
 
Chuck
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: Jun 8th, 2011, 8:29pm
Chuck,
    Good to see your recent efforts posted to the Forum! Excellent modeling and an inspiration, unfortunately I'm still looking for my "round tuit"! Been getting some modeling done but no LV projects yet. Recently completed a resin kit for a B&O wagontop box, awaiting paint & decals and a resin kit for an FM H10-44 that will get Nickel Plate solid black....no scare stripes, to match a photo I have from 1950. FWIW....the NKP interchanged with the LV here in Buffalo so my FM will run the interchange, even though my use of modeler's license dictates I won't be modeling Buffalo!
     
 Bud-I've been meaning to join the procrastinator's club but I just can't get around to it!    
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jun 13th, 2011, 11:46am
Nice clean build, Chuck!
 
  Frank
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Jun 14th, 2011, 11:51am
As I switched to N Scale, I was able to find a gentleman who custom paints N and Z scale and he has done an amazing job with the Lehigh Valley and Reading items I have bought from him so far. As hard as it was to switch from HO to N, this gentleman made N scale a whole lot better since I wanted stuff outside of the normal Atlas offerings of C420, C628's, GP38 and UBoats. Here's the GP18 302 and caboose 95047 he did.
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Jun 14th, 2011, 11:54am
Here is GP9 #301 wearing the experimental "cigar band"
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Jun 14th, 2011, 12:00pm
SW #120.  
 
I look forwards to more cabooses and engines....
Posted by: scottychaos Posted on: Jul 24th, 2011, 9:11pm
August 2011 issue of Railroad Model Craftsman (out now) featuring LV pups in N-scale! check it out!  
 
http://carstens-publications.com/images/covers/Cover_Craftsman_large.jpg
 
Scot
 
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Jul 25th, 2011, 12:12pm
Sweet!  
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Aug 1st, 2011, 7:46pm
Iím still learning how to do this, but I recently posted this short video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dSAEMqdEz4 from my layout.  Hope you enjoy it.
 
Chuck
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 9:27am
Figure I'd share my latest modeling addition......I say addition, because I did not build it, but it is on my layout. As most of you know by now, I am a modeler of the LV's waterfront facilities in Jersey City, NJ. My friend Elliott Janofsky was kind enough to build this for me out of Central Valley, Micro Engineering, Walthers and various other bits and pieces. In case you are still wondering what this is, this is an HO scale model of the LV's contained apron electric float bridges. It needs some tweaking and weathering, but is pretty much complete.
Just wanted to share something other than the typical car or engine model (not that there is anything wrong with that!)
 
RAH
Posted by: vtm Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 11:28am
Please continue to share.
 
This is a very interesting part of the LV and other harbor railroads.
 
Excellent work for which you can be proud.
 
VTM
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 11:40am
They looks exactly as I rememeber them....now you need to model the pack of feral dogs that the yardmaster used to feed...so they wouldn't eat us!
 
Keith (the one from Maine)
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 2:39pm
on Aug 2nd, 2011, 11:40am, LVRR2095 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
They looks exactly as I rememeber them....now you need to model the pack of feral dogs that the yardmaster used to feed...so they wouldn't eat us!
 
Keith (the one from Maine)

 
 
Interesting, Keith...I wonder if Preiser makes a HO scale dog pack? LOL! Any other "Jersey City tales" you could or wouldn't mind recounting?
 
RAH
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Aug 2nd, 2011, 5:22pm
on Aug 2nd, 2011, 2:39pm, FFW-1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
 
Interesting, Keith...I wonder if Preiser makes a HO scale dog pack? LOL! Any other "Jersey City tales" you could or wouldn't mind recounting?
 
RAH

 
Do you mean stories like the first day I worked there as a fireman, and not knowing any better applied the car brakes while loading the float? I shoved the barge out into the river, the Bethlehem was churning up a wake that looked like Niagara falls trying to shove the barge back....but the ropes broke and the bridge dropped! A valuable lesson!
 
KHT
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2011, 8:43am
D'oh!
 
I think we should start a new thread  "Keith's Misadventures On The Waterfront", LOL!. I can only imagine the mayhem that caused....Do you remember if that was bridge 1, or 1A?
 
RAH
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2011, 9:16am
Ralph, I don't remember which bridge it was. They spliced the ropes (hawsers?) and re-pinned the float in about an hour as I recall.
The engineer that day was Joe Dougherty and he never said a word...other than the admonition to not use the train brakes when loading a float again. In fact....he never got back in the engineer's seat the rest of that day.
KHT
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2011, 11:23am
Ralph,
 
That's a fantastic model that Elliott made for you.  It looks exactly like the photos I've seen of it and should make for some interesting operations on your layout.  I wish I could get someone to make some buildings for my layout.  The passenger and freight stations in Wilkes-Barre would be a good start.
 
Chuck
Posted by: FFW-1 Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2011, 11:38am
Thanks, Chuck!
 
Yeah, if Elliott hadn't offered, I'd be in deep doo-doo, because I know I'd NEVER get around to it, LOL! It is probably the lynch pin of my entire layout.
 
I am very lucky that I have some exceptional modeler friends here in Joisey, NY and PA........That WB station model would be a work of art, that was one heck of a building! I can understand anybody's 'fear' of trying to model that one!  
However, the rest of your layout is so nice, I think even a rough stand-in model wouldn't detract from the over all picture.
 
RAH
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jan 1st, 2012, 4:41pm
Wow, this thread has been dormant for a while!  Anyway, earlier today I caught two Snowbirds leading Mercury-1 out of Jersey:
 

 
I was trying for that nasty mid-70s look, with the primer showing through.  I was tempted to apply some more grime but stopped before I took it too far!
 
  Frank
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: Jan 1st, 2012, 6:15pm
Frank,
     Nice shot! Great power, great bridge! Hope to see more!
   Bud
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jan 2nd, 2012, 10:59pm
Thanks Bud, will do.  More trees are next on the list, followed by the signal bridge on the Phillipsburg side of the bridge.
 
Does anyone know why that signal bridge was so wide?  It looks like a 4-track bridge, but all the photos I have seen show 2 tracks under it.
 
  Frank
Posted by: scottychaos Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2012, 8:13am
on Jan 2nd, 2012, 10:59pm, amato1969 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks Bud, will do. †More trees are next on the list, followed by the signal bridge on the Phillipsburg side of the bridge.
 
Does anyone know why that signal bridge was so wide? †It looks like a 4-track bridge, but all the photos I have seen show 2 tracks under it.
 
 †Frank

 
Four tracks!
(perhaps more at one time? looks like there is room for one more track on the right side..assuming this is the correct signal bridge! the one you are talking about.. I think it is..)
 

 
Scot
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2012, 8:34am
on Jan 2nd, 2012, 10:59pm, amato1969 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Does anyone know why that signal bridge was so wide? †It looks like a 4-track bridge, but all the photos I have seen show 2 tracks under it.
 
 †Frank

There were two bridges side by side for some time....
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2012, 11:43am
OK, got it - thanks!  I see in the Library of Congress documentation that the 1876 trusses remained after completion of the "new" 1902 two-track bridge.  I'll use a 4-track signal bridge for the Jersey side.
 
  Frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jan 31st, 2012, 7:31pm
Post † oea † †My pair of Lehigh Valley Camelback Pacifics. Both are LV K1 pacifics. One has a original number 2004 (2304)and the other is a renumbered 2303 †( original number 2003)
 †
Frank
 
Posted by: FanORail Posted on: Mar 6th, 2012, 3:06pm
Hello all. This is my version of the Barber Quarry Branch. I'm going to be doing it in N scale. It is not complete, but I think I'm happy with it so far. I'd really like some input and ideas to complete it. Currently it incorporates Linden St. Yard, BQ Jct., The Allentown Terminal diamond at Union St. and the diamond on the BQB. Traylor, Linde, Reicherts, Hawk, Kemmers, and Wentz (EoL) Also I incorporated the Reading Mack Branch behind Traylor. Most bridges will be included. Era will be early 60's to late 70's.
Posted by: DAVE-39 Posted on: Mar 10th, 2012, 5:16pm
To FanORail
 
Looks like you have incorporated as much as possible into the space available. I don't know how much space you have available, but I would like to present the idea that since the Barber Quarry branch was a branchline that you try to build your model along two adjacent walls. You could have the Linden St. yard and a small engine terminal on something like a 4X8 board (slightly away from the wall), and then run your branch track over to the wall and build the branch along two adjacent walls in the form of an upside down "L" (which was similar to the shape of the BQ branch). Along the two walls you could build out about 2 feet to include all your industry.
 
This is just a suggestion because I don't know the space you have available.
 
Good luck. Keep us informed of your progress,
 
Dave Latshaw
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Mar 13th, 2012, 12:02am
on Mar 6th, 2012, 3:06pm, FanORail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hello all. This is my version of the Barber Quarry Branch. I'm going to be doing it in N scale. It is not complete, but I think I'm happy with it so far. I'd really like some input and ideas to complete it. Currently it incorporates Linden St. Yard, BQ Jct., The Allentown Terminal diamond at Union St. and the diamond on the BQB. Traylor, Linde, Reicherts, Hawk, Kemmers, and Wentz (EoL) Also I incorporated the Reading Mack Branch behind Traylor. Most bridges will be included. Era will be early 60's to late 70's.

If you need any advice with that,I could help you out.I'm not that far from you,Wilkes Barre area,I've probably built 20 N scale railroads....
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 20th, 2012, 1:11pm
Living in Bayonne, and having the CNJ, Reading, B&O, Lehigh Valley, and PRR coming through our city limits, I model these roads. Having 2 railroad bridges spanning Newark bay on our west side. The first 3 railroads using the south bridge and the remaining 2 the north bridge. The south bridge being a 4 track span, one of the largest when built. The north bridge a 2 track span. Here in the Lehigh Valley posts I like to report the refinishing of 2 Mantua camelback mikado's, to the LV roster. I think they may have been N1 class. Most likely of the first group for mikes the Valley had.
 
I dont have my numbering sequence correct yet. Maybe someone can help.  
Did any other railroad have mikado camelback? I dont know of any!
I have a un-built kit for one, and a factory built CNJ to re-letter and paint over the body cabs and boiler front. I will try to remove the liberty herald from the tender. Comparing the loco the photos show this model to be a Lehigh Valley prototype. Just like the pacific camelback also made by Mantua.
 
I will be going out to the Model railroad shop in Piscataway, or is it Dunellen NJ for the decals tomorrow. In a few days the completed photos of the pair will be in this forum thread. Like my 2 LV pacifics the photos will to taken on the ready tracks behind the PGWs main office building in Bergen Point's, Frankford Roundhouse area.  
 
Frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 24th, 2012, 3:08pm
post oea
 
Well 2 Lehigh Valley N1 class mikado camelbacks joined the roster at The Frankford Roundhouse today. Numbers 232 and 233 came out of retirement .  
Frank
Posted by: photoman475 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2012, 4:35pm
Toptrain:
 
Well, since your line seems to be facing a great motive power shortage, then reactivating retired locos is a true necessity!
 
This must be a truly interesting time on your layout!  
 
Alan
Posted by: Ray Stilwell Posted on: Mar 25th, 2012, 5:07pm
Toptrain,
 
Love those camelbacks. What scale are they and who manufactured them. I only have a Mantua 4-6-2, LV2303.  
 
Wish I could find more especially in O-2rail, but HO would be good too.
 
Ray Stilwell
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Mar 25th, 2012, 5:17pm
Very nice Frank........love it!
 
Charlie
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 25th, 2012, 7:42pm
on Mar 25th, 2012, 5:07pm, Ray Stilwell wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Toptrain,
 
Love those camelbacks. What scale are they and who manufactured them. I only have a Mantua 4-6-2, LV2303.  
 
Wish I could find more especially in O-2rail, but HO would be good too.
 
Ray Stilwell

 
Ray, your number comes from a renumbering of the original 7 K1 to the 2300 series for K class locomotives. Mine are the same as yours with a change of front head lights. I even have a 2303 also as a K1. About my N1 Mikes,  232 was made from a unbuilt mantua kit I had. Number 233 was †ready to run CNJ 1608. Being a LV prototype and CNJ never had camelback mikes it seemed a good choice for a repainting.
 frank
Here is a link to North east rail for photos of the N1 class. You will see Numbers 232 and 233 there.
 
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/lv_steam1.html
 
Ray; also both Williams and Raill king made very nice 4-6-0 camelbacks in both AC 3 rail and DC 2 rail. I know I guy who is selling both in AC .
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 25th, 2012, 7:52pm
on Mar 25th, 2012, 4:35pm, photoman475 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Toptrain:
 
Well, since your line seems to be facing a great motive power shortage, then reactivating retired locos is a true necessity!
 
This must be a truly interesting time on your layout! †
 
Alan

 Allen : Because of the PGW's area of responceability, a large amount of Motive Power is necessary. Also leases of some ended and they have moved on to other railroads.  
Frank
Posted by: Ray Stilwell Posted on: Mar 26th, 2012, 3:22pm
Toptrain.
 
Thanks for the info. I'm strictly 2-rail.
 
By the way, I was born in Bayonne just after the dinasors (sp) went extinct.
Moved to Plainfield at age 3. Rode the CNJ to NY with my Dad many times.
 
In fact, the first loco I ever saw was a CNJ camelback 10 wheeler at Main Plainfield. I was scared to death but fascinated all at the same time.
 
You model the best railroads there ever were.
 
Ray
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 26th, 2012, 7:27pm
post oea
 
 †Here are my LVRR N1's on the turntable at Frankford Roundhouse.
 Frank
 †  
#233
 
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Apr 14th, 2012, 2:28pm
post oea
 
* Lehigh Valley N1 class #232 on turntable'
frank
Posted by: slotracer Posted on: May 31st, 2012, 5:53pm
I have notivced several of you are into or getting in N Scale.
 
I had planned on building a substantial layout in N and began to collect equipment starting about 10 years ago for a Lehigh Valley, Erie Lackawanna, D&H type N scale layout. Various circumstances have changed this plan and I am looking to sell off the n scale I have accumulated.
 
Email me at hicountry_14223@yahoo.com if interested, I have about 15 Lehigh Engines, maybe 30 EL and 10 D&H along with a few others. Probably 300 + freight cars, plus caboses, passenger cars and even some track and structures.
 
I am not looking to make a killing on the stuff but am not giving it away either, I have no rush or timeline to sell, I would rathr strike good deals for me and a buyer and get the stuff into hands that will use ande appreciate it. I have no interest in messing with the debacle that ebay and paypal have become so the more I can get into the hands of Lehigh, D&H and EL buffs without ebay the better for all of us.
 
Gary Merrifield
 
Bailey Colorado
Posted by: photoman475 Posted on: Jun 13th, 2012, 9:08pm
Just couldn't resist doing this and posting it here, since my layout is freelance Northeastern themed....
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Jun 28th, 2012, 9:07pm
on Jun 13th, 2012, 9:08pm, photoman475 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just couldn't resist doing this and posting it here, since my layout is freelance Northeastern themed....
Well,since CR took over the LV,and a few GG1's did end up i NY after they were retired,hey,run with it,LOL!!
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Jun 29th, 2012, 8:58am
There is a prototype for everything. While I was running pups, not big ALCO's....I did haul GG-1's over Lehigh Valley rails....on the G's way to Naporano Iron and Metals to be scraped.
 
Keith in Maine
Posted by: photoman475 Posted on: Jul 6th, 2012, 9:09pm
I don't have any pups, so I had to make do with what I had on hand.  Pups are on the some day list, along with quite a few other things LV.  Oh well, just have to keep plugging away at it.
 
Have a good weekend, gents.
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jul 27th, 2012, 7:37am
Doubleheaded Lehigh Valley N1 mikes.
toptrain
Posted by: slotracer Posted on: Aug 29th, 2012, 4:30pm
I finally put al my nscle stuff into an inventory spreadsheet. kato Unitrack and structures I still have left to do. There are 60 locomotives and over 300 cars, also about a decade of MR and RMC available too.
 
Email me at hicountry_14223@yahoo.com and I will ssend you the invventory.
 
I have plans away from home for the Labor day weekend so I might not get back to you till next week, first come first served.
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 16th, 2012, 3:49pm
Anybody have anything new going on with their layouts, power or rolling stock?  
 
After years of spine issues and resulting surgeries, I can no longer work. So to help kill boredom since I have always worked---I plan to build an LV based layout. Still not 100% sure on the exact setting of it, but am considering maybe Manchester-Geneva Jct or maybe Manchester west to Rochester Jct.  
 
Preferably HO scale but maybe N scale. I know some of you do N scale, like LV LOU. Questions: Is there really a big overall price difference between the two? Are N scale parts much harder to work with than HO? My hands don't always work the best because of my neck issues--which can affect the arms/hands. Lastly.......differences in realism. Are parts on power/rolling stock in proper proportion with each other? (Examples: Handrails, brake wheels, etc.) I'm a huge stickler on this. I am looking for info like this on here, there's just quite a few threads to sift through.
 
Thanks in advance for any answers!
 
Charlie
 
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Sep 18th, 2012, 11:32am
Hi Charlie,
 
 I modeled HO for a long time and recently jumped into N scale due to space limitations and two children. Overall, HO has more out there and I would probably has the edge as far as realism. However, I have been very impressed swith N Scale and how they have truly created realistic engines and rolling stock namely companies like Bluford Shops, Eastern Seaboard Models, Exact Rail, etc. Atlas makes nice engines but they rolling stock is not as prototypical. Bachmann came out with a pretty nice N5G caboose which can work for making your own caboose fleet.  
 
As far as Valley items in N Scale, Exact Rail did 6 of the white covered hoppers, Eastern Seaboard did 3 50's white box cars, Micro Trains has 2 of the Green 40's box cars, 1 flat and the old 34' composite hoppers other than that, not a whole lot of rolling stock. I model the Reading too so there is about that same out there. There are some folks out there that do make spectacular custom made engines and cabooses.
 
As far as maintainence, HO has the upper edge. Hope this helps
Posted by: Ray Stilwell Posted on: Sep 18th, 2012, 3:48pm
Don't forget the Walthers Alco PA and FA/FB also the FT (complete LV roster in FT), EMD SW8, etc. all in LV livery. Atlas also has the C420 in Yellow Jacket paint and the C628 in both Ice Box and Cornell Red.
 
Also Atlas offered the LV25000 series hoppers and MT a composite hopper. In fact, I have about 70 different LV freight cars and 10 different cabooses.
 
So there's lots of LV stuff in N scale
 
Ray
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 18th, 2012, 4:57pm
Thanks fellas, sounds like there is quite a bit of good quality products! I would prefer N scale only because I am limited on room, but still only in planning stages.  
 
Brian, great to see you back on here!  
 
Charlie
Posted by: gfluck1 Posted on: Sep 18th, 2012, 8:09pm
There's also Intermountain (Box Cars, FT & F7 locomotives), Deluxe Innovations (Box Cars), check ebay for the Roundhouse Box Car set (4 car set), Squeak N Products (Caboose), Concor made a Black Diamond Set at one time and Bowser manufactured Hoppers at one time.
Posted by: Henry Posted on: Sep 19th, 2012, 10:55am
There isn't much difference price-wise between HO and N these days. If you have issues with your hands and want to do fiddley stuff like adding fine details to rolling stock, you might be better off with HO than N. I have equipment in both scales, but I got into HO for modeling at the a club and N for a home layout. N is great for modeling big scenery and running longer trains in the same amount of space.
 
There's lots of LV equipment available in N. LV isn't my primary focus in N (PRR is), but I have a number of LV items, mostly purchased about 10 years ago:
 
Atlas 3170 LV 50707 PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper (4)
Atlas 31823 LV 50772 PS-2 2 Bay Covered Hopper (2)
Atlas 35141 LV 95620 42' Gondola
Atlas 35681 LV 95045 Caboose
Atlas 41172 LV 25135  55 Ton Fishbelly Hopper
Atlas 41173 LV 25222 55 Ton Fishbelly Hopper
Atlas 41502 LV 36150 40' Wood Reefer Car
Atlas UNK LV 271830 50' Box Car, Double Door
Deluxe Innovations 14080 LV 63267 AAR 40' Box Car
Deluxe Innovations 14080 LV 63671 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-01 LV 61303 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-02 LV 61387 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-03 LV 61430 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-04 LV 61478 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-05 LV 61526 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-06 LV 61559 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-07 LV 61644 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-08 LV 61695 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-09 LV 61712 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-10 LV 61768 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Intermountain 65722-11 LV 61801 1937 AAR 40' Box Car
Life Like 7977 LV 95067 Caboose
Life Like LV 1776 Bicentennial 'Spirit of 76' Caboose
Micro Trains 02000786 LV 62008 40' Standard Box Car, Single Door
Micro Trains 20126 LV 62545 40' Standard Box Car, Single Door (3)
Micro Trains 24020 LV 66205 40' Standard Box Car, Single Door w/o Roofwalk (2)
Micro Trains 43050 LV 79006 40' Dbl. Sheathed-Wood Box Car 'Automobile' (3)
Micro Trains 43510-1 LV 79000 40' Double-Sheathed Wood Box Car, 1 1/2 Door (Kadee)
Micro Trains 46380 LV 37048 50' Gondola, Fishbelly side, w/Drop Ends (2)
Micro Trains 57030 LV 14231 33' Twin Bay Hopper w/Load (9/92 issue, no boxes) (2)
Micro Trains 57032 LV 14154, LV 14231, LV 14500 33' Twin Bay Hoppers, Composite Sides, 3 Car Set (3)
Micro Trains 78040 LV 8505 50' Auto Box Car, Double Side Doors, End Door and Wood Roofwalk (3)
UNK (Yugoslavia) LV 25013 2 Bay Hopper w/ Micro Train couplers
 
Most of those are probably available on places like ebay if they aren't available new, especially the M-T cars.
 
For LV power I have a couple of custom paint GP38's, a GP18 and an FA.
 
Henry
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 19th, 2012, 1:00pm
Great stuff, and more than I thought with N scale. Henry, that's exactly it.........I'm not certain I would be able to work well with smaller and finer objects and not end up discouraged. I'm even considering a smaller diorama in HO. I do remember "LEHIGHVALLEE" working on a diorama of the Sayre Shops, which planted thoughts of a diorama of some kind as well. Oh, the decisions!
 
Thanks guys............I sure appreciate it!!
 
Charlie
Posted by: slotracer Posted on: Sep 20th, 2012, 1:36pm
Charlie, if you are considering N Scale, email me at hicountry_14223@yahoo.com and I will send you a speadsheet of the n scal I have to sell. About 300 cars nad 60 engines plus also buildings, track and magazines. Henry got a bunch of stuff off me 2 weeks ago and can vouch that my stuff is in good shape at decent prices and I deal fairly.
 
Gary Merrifield....Bailey Colorado
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 20th, 2012, 4:36pm
Thanks Gary.........and I just sent you a PM.
 
Charlie
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Sep 20th, 2012, 9:44pm
 Charlie,if you're really a stickler for detail,N stuff looks really nice,but for real accuracy,of course,HO is gonna be better,it simply has to be,you just can't make an N railing correct size unless it's brass,even then,it's really delicate.Same for working on the stuff,it's just the way it obviously is.That said,my best thing I can say is,you model trains in HO,you model railroads in N.The scenery you can do in N is spectacular if you put the time into it,and you can't imagine running 80 car trains in a 12 X 12 room HO,I do it all day in N.As for stock/locomotives,there's a lot of LV equipment available in N,and also all the other RR's of the era.LV PA1's from Con Cor and Life Like,I think maybe Kato,too,C420 from Atlas in EVERY paint variation,C628 in ever variation,GP38 AC and -2,U23b,VO-1000 in as delivered and Cornell,all variations in GP9,RS11,and Life Like and Atlas have RS3's.Life Like has FA-1 and FA2 sets,Intermountain has FT/F7 ABBA sets,Life Like has all kinds of GP18's,GP38's and SW's,You could spend years just getting the stuff that is made,and new stuff comes out daily.Bachmann and Atlas just announced Alco S4's and S2's..At present,I pretty much have the entire roster covered except a few switchers and Baldwin 200..Oh yeah,ya can even get a GE44T if ya can paint..Or ya can pay somebody like me to do it,LOL!![Gotta post pics of my LV 44T one of these days..]
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 20th, 2012, 10:42pm
Thanks Lou! There is certainly a lot more than I imagined out there in N Scale---I certainly appreciate all the great feedback from everybody, oh and Lou----looking forward to seeing that 44 tonner!  
 
Charlie
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Sep 21st, 2012, 1:23am
on Sep 20th, 2012, 10:42pm, charlie6017 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks Lou! There is certainly a lot more than I imagined out there in N Scale---I certainly appreciate all the great feedback from everybody, oh and Lou----looking forward to seeing that 44 tonner! †
 
Charlie

 
Charlie,just to torment you,here's an N scale brass kit I built,it's smaller than your thumb,and soldered together.The actual locomotive is only a little bigger than one of the trucks in the pic,it's full of lead,and,[drumroll,please..] it has pulled SIXTY THREE CARS!!!...This particular 44T ran on the Laurel Line in Pittston.
 
 
 

Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Sep 21st, 2012, 8:26am
Lou, wow! Beautiful work......and amazing pulling capabilities! I have always found that paint scheme attractive on the Lackawanna--not crazy fancy, yet still nice looking. Thanks for sharing---I enjoy seeing all the craftsmanship!
 
Charlie
 
Posted by: gfluck1 Posted on: Oct 9th, 2012, 11:30am
The picture below is of the KMRR (Kyan's Model RR), LV 212 (Walther's RS2) arriving with box cars in tow and a LV 283 (LifeLike SW9) departing pulling a string of Airslide and PS2 covered hoppers. The KMRR is a †3 x 4, N scale that we (Kyan, my 7 year old grandson and I) have been putting together to put in this bedroom. It's a work in progress, as he spends more time operating than trying to complete the scenery, I have the same problem.
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Oct 9th, 2012, 3:50pm
Nice...........you can almost hear the flanges squealing!
 
Charlie
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 11:23am
Here is a nice Pup!  
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 11:29am
One Super Duper Dirty Pup custom made in N Scale...LOL
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 11:34am
How about a R-S in N Scale.
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 11:37am
One last Pups. Since I was born in Hazelton, they were my favorite engine growing up. It is great to see that there are still so many out there after almost 60 years of service...
Posted by: photoman475 Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 10:01pm
Brian-Excellent work!  I would not be surprised if LV Lou made you an offer you'd find hard to refuse......LOL
Posted by: gfluck1 Posted on: Oct 11th, 2012, 11:16pm
Another photo from the KMRR, LV 530 (LifeLike FA1 & FB1) hauling the freight.
Posted by: charlie6017 Posted on: Oct 12th, 2012, 8:36am
Nice looking work, fellas!
 
Charlie
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 12th, 2012, 3:25pm
Man, I wish I could take credit for the super nicely detailed N Scale items but I have a gentleman in NY that custom makes the LV, RDG and WM items for me. If I only had those skill sets...
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Oct 12th, 2012, 3:31pm
Here is one last one for the road....
Posted by: gfluck1 Posted on: Oct 16th, 2012, 7:21am
And yet another photo from the KMRR, LV 302 & 303 (LifeLike GP18s).  
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Oct 16th, 2012, 8:14pm
on Oct 11th, 2012, 11:29am, Brian_Coblentz wrote:       (Click here for original message)
One Super Duper Dirty Pup custom made in N Scale...LOL

 
Nice job on the weathering! The model looks very realistic.  
Posted by: MarkJ Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2012, 9:49am
Hello LV modelers, Iím looking for a little more information on how to modify the P2K 50í automobile boxcar to more accurately represent the prototype.  
 
I found this brief description and photos at http://www.anthraciterailroads.org/lvrrmodeler/freightmodels.htm. I know the sill needs to be modified, but itís hard to tell from the photos the dimensions of the sill. Also looking for a clearer photo of the end details. I have several kits yet to build and want to make the appropriate changes. Thanks, Mark  
 

 
Posted by: vtm Posted on: Nov 14th, 2012, 12:08pm

Can clearly remember walking around one of these at Rochester Junction about 1973 however did not photograph it.
 
One of those many i should have moments....
 
VTM
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:29am
Gents,  
 
Here's some photo detail for the Valley's 50-foot auto boxcars.  
 
This study was made at Victor, NY in 2008.  At the time, the car was adjacent to the former NYC station and housed a business.  Humble apologies for the paint scheme...
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:32am
Here's some close-ups of the end door detail.
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:36am
And the other side
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:39am
B-end was tough to get given the car's location against the building.
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:42am
B-end Ajax and piping - bent not straight
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:43am
B end pocket is slightly different from the door end
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:45am
B end grabs
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:51am
Trucks, roping hooks, and what-not.
 
The two 8000-series auto boxcars I've seen had roping hooks at both ends.
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:54am
Doors were tougher still given the adaptive reuse
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:55am
Door roller detail
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 11:57am
And door latches
Posted by: ClearBoard Posted on: Dec 20th, 2012, 12:13pm
Okay.
 
Didn't mean to hijack your thread , but thought some detail would assist.
 
The Victor car may be the only one left.  I knew of one in Lancaster Co. (PA), but I understand it was scrapped.  It was in great shape and used for storage at an industrial site, but it was painted a very light grey and was the devil to photograph.
 
Your models are pretty nice - good job.  A very detailed Valley 50-foot auto box came out in O-scale a year or two ago.  I picked a couple up for 2-rail conversion.  The Valleys house cars at Victor, Manchester, Caty, and Hokey were studied about the same time.
 
ClearBoard.
Posted by: robertjohndavis Posted on: Dec 21st, 2012, 11:01am
I believe there is still the body of one at Avoca, PA in a junk yard.  
 
Rob
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Dec 21st, 2012, 4:26pm
on Dec 21st, 2012, 11:01am, robertjohndavis wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I believe there is still the body of one at Avoca, PA in a junk yard.  
 
Rob
Well,you just sent me on a quest,LOL!! Gotta be honest with ya,there are no junkyards in Avoca,But I just spent 20 minutes looking at aerial pics of every abandoned pile of junk I could think of in the area..No luck yet,but I'm not done..
 
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Dec 30th, 2012, 7:16pm
The RIT Tiger Tracks Train Show was just a few weeks ago, †Those who attended had the pleasure of seeing Scot Lwarnece's (aka Scottychaos) amazing G-scale LV units.  
 

 
Indeed, Scot (l) was there and were we talking to fellow LV fan and rf.net member Ken G (r):
 

 
There was also an S2 (owned by another G-Scaler), which meant Scot's Alcos were meeting another Alco. How cool is that? The bridge was a nice touch, too.  
 

 
Finally, I did see another LV model. I don't know who painted this U-Boat, but #510 was a nice recreation of the prototype.  
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 12/8/2012 in Henrietta, NY. To see more shots of Scot's PAs and some non-LV models, please visit:
 
http://s105.photobucket.com/albums/m231/Amtrak_Matt/Dec%202012/1208%20Henrietta%20NY/#!cpZZ1QQtppZZ20
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Mar 8th, 2013, 12:08am
Hey Guys!
 
I picked up a copy of the current (Jan 2013) Railroad Model Craftsman because it had a photo of "The Black Diamond" at Trumansburg on the cover, and as it turns out, the feature article is of the great (understatement) layout done by Steve Peck of his hometown of Trumansburg. In short, this gentleman went to great lengths to recreate the Lehigh Valley in T-burg in 1941. EVERYTHING is in proper proportion, and I am thoroughly amazed how Mr. Peck researched every single facet to ensure each building, siding, vehicle, just everything was where it needed to be.
 
If you don't have a copy of this, you'll do yourself a favor by picking one up and reading just how this layout was constructed and the work Mr. Peck did long before actual construction began.
 
Oh yeah, I'm plugging this. www.rrmodelcraftsman.com
 
And an actual link to Steve Peck's site on this layout.
 
http://www.miniloco.com/lehigh
 
Charlie
Posted by: gfluck1 Posted on: Mar 8th, 2013, 1:28am
That is incredible.
Posted by: Kendaia1 Posted on: Mar 8th, 2013, 8:44am
I was in Trumansburg recently and went by the site (or through it, actually). Hebbard still owns the grain business after all these years, and a few of the same buildings are there still. Also the coal pockets are still there, you drive right past them. Charlie, 2 things... The Lehigh's train was "the John Wilkes", no "Booth"at the end. And that train ran  Wilkes Barre to New York City. The train in Trumansburg was "The Ole Black Diamond" as some of the local old timers will still say. The Black Diamond ran Buffalo to New York City, via Ithaca, in the daytime. It must have been a magnificent trip.
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Mar 8th, 2013, 12:51pm
Hi Bob,
 
I greatly appreciate the corrections and modified my post. Can't believe I added "Booth" to that to begin with....Yikes. That's what happens when I was up online when I should have been in bed sleeping!
 
That is indeed a beautiful layout and I'm just amazed at the effort Mr. Peck put into all this....complete with actual dirt, ballast and parts of the actual trees from the exact scene!
 
Absolutely amazing.
 
Charlie
Posted by: MrBill Posted on: Mar 15th, 2013, 6:55pm
Center car is to be a 41000 series LV quad re-build. It's a heavily modified tyco car. The hobbyline quad on the right is slated to become a 40000 series unit. I think the hobbyline casting better represents this class because of the discharge spacing. I cut the ends of the frame and moved the truck centers out where they should be on it.

Does anyone know of any dwgs. or additional images of the 23000 class hoppers from the recent "guess the location" post?
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Mar 15th, 2013, 8:46pm
Westerfield did a model of the 23000-23999 series hoppers.
https://id18538.securedata.net/westerfieldmodels.com/merchantmanager/index.php?cPath=63
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Mar 17th, 2013, 4:00pm
The angeled braces on the sides were later removed, but what made these unique among the two bay hoppers were the alternating pattern of channels and angle irons as side stakes.
 
Chuck
Posted by: MrBill Posted on: Mar 17th, 2013, 5:10pm
Chuck, Do you know if any of the early LV steel hopper classes may have been 8-panel's with all single pressed ribs? Those hoppers in the Seneca Falls shot look a lot like an old Reading class (HTa), made by Pressed Steel, that were configured very similarly.
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Mar 17th, 2013, 10:22pm
With the exception of the above SSCC cars, all the LV 2 bay steel hoppers were 7 rib, 8 panel cars.
 
Chuck
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: May 12th, 2013, 7:19am
Valley covered hopper I had seen at Oak Island Yard locomotive service area. I think it was used to store sand.
 
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: May 17th, 2013, 11:49am
Here is a N Scale "Hammerhead". Can't wait to get the 211 running on my home layout soon...
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: May 23rd, 2013, 12:00pm
Very nice!  I have the pieces and parts for this on my workbench, but it's behind some other projects.
 
  Frank
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: May 23rd, 2013, 3:52pm
Very nice looking engine, Brian!
 
Here's a shot of the original 2nd #211!
 
Charlie
 
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jul 10th, 2013, 10:53am
Work continues on my N scale Phillipsburg signal bridge.  I am using a Traincat brass model for the bridge, and have added a wood walkway per the prototype.  I have primed the main assembly and have attached one of the handrails:
 

 

 
I used .042 tubing for the signal masts, and cut small holes using a dremel cutoff wheel.  These will allow me to route the LED wiring to the heads:
 

 
These last shots show the LED's and magnet wire leads.  Don't try this without good lighting and magnification!
 

 

 
Next tasks are to complete the signal heads and mount them to the masts.
 
   Frank
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Jul 10th, 2013, 12:34pm
Looking really good!!  
Posted by: towny72 Posted on: Jul 14th, 2013, 9:03pm
Glad to see the amazing work in N scale. Keep it up and keep posting those pictures. Amazing stuff...
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jul 23rd, 2013, 10:10pm
Quick update tonight.  The heat and humidity here in the midwest broke and I hit the four finished heads with a coat of dark grey metal primer:
 

 
This profile shot shows the detail of the hoods.  These were tricky to bend and secure with the LEDs inside:
 

 
Next up is securing these to the two masts and carefully fishing the magnet wires inside the tubing.
 
  Frank
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jul 27th, 2013, 9:35pm
Spent some time at the workbench today and attached the four heads to the masts:
 

 
The most tedious part was fishing the magnet wires down the inside of the tubing!  These are now ready to attach to the signal bridge.
 
  Frank
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Jul 28th, 2013, 8:45am
Frank, those look incredible and very life-like!  
 
I'm enjoying the updates--keep up the good work!
 
Charlie
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Aug 5th, 2013, 9:48pm
A little more progress...  The masts have been attached to the bridge, as have the remaining railings.  Additionally, I secured the magnet wires inside the framework, leaving enough to fish down through the layout base:
 

 

 
Some paint touch up remains, and then it should be ready to attach to the layout!
 
  Frank
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Aug 24th, 2013, 10:28pm
Following some fun soldering under the layout, I shot a few quick pics of the completed signal bridge:
 

 

 
I also caught a set of GP38ACs heading westbound (looks like I need to tweak the DCC settings so the headlight on the trailing unit is off):
 

 
 †Frank
Posted by: Henry Posted on: Aug 24th, 2013, 11:02pm
That looks great Frank!
 
Henry
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Aug 25th, 2013, 12:10pm
Wow.........phenomenal job!!  
 
Charlie
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: Aug 25th, 2013, 7:39pm
Frank,  You captured the LV signal bridge look perfectly, nice workmanship. I can't imagine working in that small of scale!
     Bud
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Aug 26th, 2013, 11:31am
Wow, very nice indeed!  
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Aug 26th, 2013, 9:18pm
on Aug 24th, 2013, 10:28pm, amato1969 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

I also caught a set of GP38ACs heading westbound (looks like I need to tweak the DCC settings so the headlight on the trailing unit is off):

 
Hey, I promise not tell the feds about the violation! \
 
Seriously, nice job. Your layout looks great.
Posted by: slotracer Posted on: Nov 8th, 2013, 12:46pm
I haven't really pushed selling it off as somewhere in my heart I thought maybe I would buid a layout and love all the great equipemnt I collected, but reality is my N collection is sitting and I have more than enough to do with my time without building a layout so......
 
I have about 60 N locomotives, LV, EL, DL&W, D&H stuff ath a couple NYC, NKP, PRR, DRGW and SP pieces in there too. Over 300 cars, a huge load of Kato Unitrack plus structures. Email me and I will send a spreadsheet of what I have.
 
This stuff has been in mini file drawers, not in original box, all of it is either never been run only run a little on a test track type layout I had up until 4 years ago. I am selling a attractive prices and will make up package deals, I am not deperate so I am not giving this stuff away but will sell at would be good bargain prices too the potential buyer....not trying to get outrageous prices or squeeze every last nickel out of it myself either. I want to get this stuff into the hands of folks that would use and appreciate it while supporting my son and myself in our road racing habit.
 
hicountry_14223@yahoo.com Gary Merrifield Bailey Colorado
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Dec 20th, 2013, 1:56pm
Here's another model I never thought would be produced in N scale!  Eastern Seaboard Models is bringing an X65 boxcar to market in 2014:
 
http://www.therailwire.net/forum/index.php?topic=31542.0
 
  Frank
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Apr 9th, 2014, 11:24am
Some of my newest arrivals for my fleet of engines. LV 95140 sat in Hazelton for many years!
Posted by: towny72 Posted on: Apr 9th, 2014, 3:16pm
Brian,  
 
Glad to see an update on the layout, cant wait to see those cabs in action.
 
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Apr 11th, 2014, 8:41pm
O-gauge GP9s I saw last weekend:
 

 
 

 
Both photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 4/5/2014 in Hamburg, NY.  
Posted by: Brian_Coblentz Posted on: Sep 29th, 2014, 11:44am
It's been a while...here are 3 cabeese recently obtained. I need to wait about 2 more years until my son is a little older so that I can begin our LVRR/RDG layout...cannot wait!
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Sep 29th, 2014, 4:58pm
Wow......those are very nice hacks!! And will look forward to progress on your future layout!
 
Charlie
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Oct 1st, 2014, 8:47pm
It has been some time since I have contributed anything here....but I have not been completely idle. †Here are a few shots of my newest LV model, SW-1 # 112.  
112 was an occasional visitor to the West Pittston Branch....the branch I lived near, and now model. The REAL 112 has been restored to operation....and I have visited her a number of times at the BR&W.....so naturally I had to add this famous SW-1 to my layout!
 
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Oct 1st, 2014, 8:54pm
112 & 115 on the West Pittston Branch at the same time!
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2014, 10:25pm
95113 bringing up the rear.
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Oct 2nd, 2014, 11:27pm
Nice looking stuff Dave!! Only complaint? The "dudes" are too clean,LOL!!! Where's the WAG boxcar going?
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Oct 3rd, 2014, 8:13am
Lou.......you are absolutely correct!  The "dudes" are too clean!  I cant believe I never thought of  "weathering" the crews clothing. Thanks!  The WAG car is going to Nelsons Furniture in Kingston.....it's full of leather.  
Posted by: 2771-chris Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 8:47am
 Been a long long long time since I posted.I completed two units to add to my LV roster.Both started as Ath. Genesis undecorated models.I completed 318 about six months ago so I'll present that unit first.
 I painted the unit using Model Master insignia red.I like that it matches the Atlas factory painted models.I used MM insignia orange for the grabs and railings and Floquil grimey black for the trucks and fuel tank.Microscale decals and the weathering was done with pencil,paint and powders.
  Lv 318



 
 Next 300.I used the same process on this unit.The unit itself did not come with the speed recorder,sun shades or the winterization hatch.I used a DW speed recorder and P2K parts for the shades and hatch.I also added the extra grabs on the right sides of the long and short hoods.





 
  300 and 318 teamed

Posted by: scottychaos Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 9:57am
Beautiful models Chris!   very nicely done!
thats an excellent red! im going to be looking for a red to use for some G-gauge GP38-2's eventually, I will definitely look at the model master paint!  
What color primer did you use underneath?
 
Scot
Posted by: 2771-chris Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 11:05am
 Scot,thank you.  I started air brushing back in 85 and never painted anything above ho scale.My first project was an Athearn 40ft box car painted for the RDG.Being new to  air brushing I followed recommendations with the use of a primer before applying the color and I wasn't happy with the results,seem too thick.I didn't use a primer on my second project and I was pleased with the results,long story short,I haven't used a primer since.With all the models painted over the years I've never run into the problem of chipping paint.In my process I do apply dull coat to the model 3 t0 6 times.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Posted by: BlackDiamondRR Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 12:46pm
Chris,
    The two Geeps look great! What color primer did you use? I also like the way you darkened the vents and door latches and any other areas that would be dark and dirty on the prototype! The trucks look good too with the highlighting over the Grimy black.  
     Bud
Posted by: S-12_Dave Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 6:47pm
Chris.....Fantastic modeling!
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Nov 2nd, 2014, 9:55pm
Wow Chris......excellent job on those beauties!!    
 
Charlie
Posted by: towny72 Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2014, 8:41pm
Awesome works guys!
 
I can almost hear Mike Bednar saying "pop loved them pups"and "those GP38s were strong pullers"
Posted by: LV LOU Posted on: Nov 3rd, 2014, 11:57pm
Very nice work!!!!
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Nov 4th, 2014, 3:17pm
Here Lehigh Valley 4-4-0 E-28 camelback, the David Laury No. 5 runs by the Hallow station.
 frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Dec 1st, 2014, 8:56am
Today at Bergen Point Station can be seen a Lehigh Valley Pup #265.
 ( It is a Kitbashed Athearn SW1500, what Athearn called it, kitbashed into a LVRR SW8 with Dynamic breaks).
 
Frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Dec 1st, 2014, 9:23am
Another visitor to the Bergen Point station is a Lehigh Valley Alco Century C420 #408.
 
This is a Rivarossi made loco for MRC.  
 
Frank.
Posted by: Dr. Sheldon Cooper Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 1:19pm
Brain, Dave, Chris - OUTSTANDING modeling! You guys really caught the essence of the Valley, IMHO.  
 
Ralph
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Dec 3rd, 2014, 8:31pm
Nice job, gents! The real LV is gone but the model LV shall continue to live on your layouts.
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Dec 21st, 2014, 7:32pm
I saw this LV model at the RIT Tiger Tracks Trains Show last weekend. As I recall, it belonged to a club called Seneca Valley Lines:
 

 
 

 
Both photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 12/13/2014 in henrietta, Ny.
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Dec 21st, 2014, 7:36pm
The Rochester G Scale Club was also at the show. Our very own Scottychaos had some his LV models running on their layout:
 

 
 
 
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All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 12/13/2014 in Henrietta, NY. Nice job, Scot!
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Feb 3rd, 2015, 10:38am
Here is †a photo of LVRR E-28 #5 David Laury. Rolling onto the tracks on Main street.
 frank  
V-7184
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Feb 3rd, 2015, 8:59pm
That's nice work, Frank......looks good!  
 
Charlie
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 19th, 2015, 7:48am
A photo of a Lehigh Valley PUP with the addition of dynamic brake fan.
 frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Mar 21st, 2015, 10:10am
A pair of C-420's. One is by Lima, in back with KD coupler, and the oldest made for sale by MRC. The other a Rivarossi, in the front with X2F coupler. Made after Rivarossi took over Lima. I think also a MRC loco.
 frank  
V-7360
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: May 15th, 2015, 9:39pm
Here is a Athearn RS3 on the turntable with its caboose.  
 frank
Posted by: toptrain Posted on: Jun 20th, 2015, 8:53am
A LVRR PUP SW8 265 showed up today with coal hoppers to top off the coal bunkers.  
 
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Aug 3rd, 2015, 10:05am
Using N scale Life-Like GP20 mechs and Atlas GP9 shells, I am detailing out three units - one GP9 and two GP18s circa mid-70s.  Fans were harvested from donor SD26 (pan-style) and GP38 (flat top) shells.  I used epoxy to attach the Sunrise winterization hatches and GMM grilles.
 
LV 301:

 
LV 302:

 
LV 305:

 
  Frank
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Aug 11th, 2015, 9:22am
Long hood and cab work is complete for 301 and 302; Sunrise sunshades and BLMA M3R1 horns match the prototype details:
 

 

 
Next up I have to work out the rooftop air filter box for the 305...
 
  Frank
Posted by: LV_Miami Posted on: Dec 31st, 2015, 8:01am
A photo of my brother Doug's O scale layout...1 year's worth of construction.  The Black Diamond streamline was scratch built by him using an old Williams Blue Goose.
Posted by: LV_Miami Posted on: Dec 31st, 2015, 8:02am
Another photo of the O scale layout.  Diesels are F7 MTH painted by me.
Posted by: LV_Miami Posted on: Dec 31st, 2015, 8:04am
One more...
Posted by: Bridge 1A Posted on: Dec 31st, 2015, 9:26am
Awesome stuff, LV_Miami! There's nothing quite like O-scale models, the heft of the real things really starts to show with models that big and heavy!
 
Welcome to the forum! Looking forward to chatting with you more in 2016!
 
Ralph Heiss
S. Plainfield, NJ
Forum Moderator
 
Posted by: LV_Miami Posted on: Jan 1st, 2016, 7:12am
Thanks Ralph.  Doug and I will continue to post pics as the layout progresses.
 
Dave Roberts
Miami, FL
 
on Dec 31st, 2015, 9:26am, Bridge 1A wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Awesome stuff, LV_Miami! There's nothing quite like O-scale models, the heft of the real things really starts to show with models that big and heavy!
 
Welcome to the forum! Looking forward to chatting with you more in 2016!
 
Ralph Heiss
S. Plainfield, NJ
Forum Moderator
 

Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Jan 1st, 2016, 7:50pm
Welcome Aboard, LV Miami! That's some fantastic work, looks awesome. Glad you joined, there's a lot of nice folks here. Happy New Year! †
 
Charlie
Posted by: Matthew_L Posted on: Mar 9th, 2016, 8:44pm
I paid a visit to the ROchester Model RR Club last weekend. The layout is loosely based on LV, with a a few other RRs represented, too.  
 
Rochester Junction:
 

 
SW1:
 

 
SW9:
 

 
Baldwin switcher:
 

 
U-boat and F unit at the service pad:
 

 
The only "cigar band' RS3:
 

 
F units leading a freight train:
 

 
The rest of my visit can be seen  in this slide show:
 
http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Amtrak_Matt/slideshow/2016/03052016%20Rochester%20NY
 
All photos in this post and the link were taken by me Saturday 3/5/2016 in Rochester, NY
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jun 8th, 2016, 2:08pm
The first of my three N scale geeps is done!  It needs more dust on the fuel tanks and trucks tho:
 

 
And wow, my iPhone sure didn't do justice to the red  
 
  Frank
Posted by: 2771-chris Posted on: Jun 15th, 2016, 9:38am
Added 301 to my LV GP 9 roster,I chose the final paint scheme to compliment 300.Notice the different horn placement and the position of the LEHIGH VALLEY on the flanks.


 
 Closer views of the 301



Posted by: Local D Line Posted on: Jun 15th, 2016, 3:37pm
Wow, everything looks great, Chris! Thanks for sharing!
 
Ralph
Posted by: amato1969 Posted on: Jun 21st, 2016, 11:18am
I finally finished up my geep project; here's a family shot of the 301, 302, and 305 approaching the Delaware River bridge:
 

 
  Frank
Posted by: chuck Posted on: Jun 21st, 2016, 3:39pm
Trank, fantastic modeling!  I still can't believe it is N guage.  It's really come a long way.
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Oct 26th, 2016, 1:46pm
Two weeks ago my wife and I took my 3- 1/2" gauge live steam LVRR center cab Atlantic to the autumn blow down meet of the Pioneer Valley Live Steamers in Southwick, Massachusetts.
The loco hadn't run in over 40 years and it took some tinkering in order to wake it from it's Rip VanWinkle slumber. But eventually we had a good run and that large Wooten firebox really made for some good steaming!
Keith (from the Oak Island end of the LV originally)
Posted by: Charlie Ricker Posted on: Oct 26th, 2016, 7:28pm
Wow, that's awesome Keith.......what a beautiful piece of machinery!  
 
Charlie
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Oct 26th, 2016, 7:58pm
on Oct 26th, 2016, 7:28pm, Charlie Ricker wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wow, that's awesome Keith.......what a beautiful piece of machinery! †
 
Charlie

I do have the cab roof for the 2493, but left it off while testing the injectors and lubricator.
There is also a 3/4" scale LV K-6b sitting in my shop awaiting its return to steam
Keith
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Nov 10th, 2017, 3:20pm
https://youtu.be/9RdH-HHkGy0
 
Video of my LVRR center cab on October 7th 2017
Posted by: Henry Posted on: Nov 10th, 2017, 4:06pm
Boy that looks like fun!
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Nov 10th, 2017, 4:30pm
on Nov 10th, 2017, 4:06pm, Henry wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Boy that looks like fun!

It was!
 
Keith