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2 branch line questions
 
« on: Dec 9th, 2015, 8:25pm »
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hello all, new to this forum but not the lehigh valley!
 
1) is that branch line that ends at american parkway still used (red arrow, pic 1 and 2) and did it extend farther west, perhaps to the river? It is still shown on the map so I can only assume its used (sometimes). It connects to the "norfolk southern cement secondary" (in blue, pic 2) used sometimes. search "norfolk southern cement secondary" in youtube.
 
2) farther east of that area (pic 3) what is that yellow branch line that is on the pdf map? i can't find any evidence that the tracks are still on the ground, yet that branch shows up on the official pa gov map.
 
official pa.gov map: http://www.dot7.state.pa.us/BPR_pdf_files/MAPS/Statewide/parail.pdf
top right corner shows a zoomed in allentown and bethlehem area
 
pic 1: http://imgur.com/pWc9i01
pic 2: http://imgur.com/oBZE1At
pic 3: http://imgur.com/EoBpHqV


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« Reply #1 on: Dec 9th, 2015, 9:56pm »
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Trackage you are referring to was owned and operated by the LNE until they ceased operations in 1961, at which time the CNJ created a subsidiary, Lehigh & New England Railway, acquired portions of the ROW and provided service, to what extent I do not know.

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« Reply #2 on: Dec 9th, 2015, 10:07pm »
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Welcome aboard......glad to have you here. There are many others who can expand further, but to give you the basics:
 
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1) is that branch line that ends at american parkway still used (red arrow, pic 1 and 2) and did it extend farther west, perhaps to the river? It is still shown on the map so I can only assume its used (sometimes). It connects to the "norfolk southern cement secondary" (in blue, pic 2) used sometimes. search "norfolk southern cement secondary" in youtube.

 
This line was part of the Lehigh & New England, and yes it did reach the river and crossed over the Lehigh River. From there, it crossed the LV and fed into what was once Biery Yard in Hokendauqua. There it connected with the Reading, the Ironton and the LV. The single-track girder bridge is still in place there, of course the tracks are long gone. To answer the first part, I assume it's still used, but again I'll defer to others who know better than I, as I live in Western NY State.
 
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2) farther east of that area (pic 3) what is that yellow branch line that is on the pdf map? i can't find any evidence that the tracks are still on the ground, yet that branch shows up on the official pa gov map.

 
I looked on Bing Maps (www.bing.com/maps) and according to the Bird's Eye View, the track ends about 1000 feet east of New Street. This was part of the CNJ's line to New Jersey and the NYC area. That yellow branch may well have been an error, as the only thing that branched-off the CNJ in that direction was the mentioned Cement Secondary by the Hill to Hill Bridge.
 
Again, welcome!
 
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« Reply #3 on: Dec 10th, 2015, 12:50pm »
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Hello, Homiemandude................
 
Welcome.....The two branches you have asked about in maps #1 and #2 were not LVRR branches, though in the 1970's they WERE operated by the LVRR after the L&NE (the RR that built and operated the branches) ceased operations in 1961, and then after the CNJ (who took over said operations) pulled out of operating in Pennsylvania in 1972. A tad confusing, but this info is available on line and in many fine books.
 
Branch #1 was known as the L&NE's Allentown Branch, and did not, as Charlie stated, reach across the river to Cattasauqua - That was another branch off of the main stem (the Bethlehem Branch, the branch you noted in map #2), and that location was further north of Bethlehem. There is an EXCELLENT thread (with photos) on the L&NE's Allentown Branch, burried somewhere in the "Allentown Branchlines" thread on this forum.  
 
That last branch (#3) that Charlie could not ID is/was in fact the CNJ's Minsi Trail Branch - http://www.freewebs.com/jerseycentrallines/cnjbethlehem.htm
 
If I recall correctly, it served the Air Products and Just Born candy factories up into Conrail years.
 
Maybe some folks over on the appropriate L&NE and CNJ forums can answer any further questions you may have.
 
Hope this helps.
 
 


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