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gfluck1
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LV Express, Passenger & Service Equipment
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« on: Nov 20th, 2013, 6:47am »
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Time to start a new thread to provide information on express and passenger equipment of the Lehigh Valley, so those of you who may have photos and info please feel free to contribute.
 
Pictured below is LV 511, a Special Horse Car built in 1907 at the Harlan Plant of the Bethlehem Steel Company in Wilmington, Delaware. The Official Railway Equipment Register suggests that the Lehigh Valley purchased 10 cars (Road No.’s 511-520), classified as “BH - Horse or Horse and Carriage Express. A car constructed and equipped to render it suitable for passenger train service for the transportation of fine stock, with or without stalls (movable or stationary) and with or without space left for carriage or horse equipment”. The majority of this series will last until 1935, 511 only until 1930. (Photo from Train Shed Cyclopedia, Volume 36).


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Charlie Ricker
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Re: LV Express, Passenger & Service Equiment
 
« Reply #1 on: Nov 20th, 2013, 9:44am »
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Great topic and I'm looking forward to watching this thread progress. Now, I just noticed that this car #511 has three-axle trucks. I wonder if this is because the of the car's length or weight or both?
 
Very interesting!
 
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gfluck1
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« Reply #2 on: Nov 21st, 2013, 6:18am »
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Pictured below is LV 605, a Milk Car built in 1894 by the Jackson & Sharp Company of Wilmington, Delaware. The Official Railway Equipment Register suggests the Lehigh Valley purchased 40 cars (Road No.’s 601-640), classified as “BM - A car without a means of refrigeration. Constructed and equipped for passenger train service and used primarily for the transportation of milk cans or bottles”. The majority of the series will last until 1931 after being rebuilt with steel underframes. (Photo from the Delaware Public Archives).

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Palmyra
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« Reply #3 on: Nov 21st, 2013, 10:47pm »
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Lehigh Valley Horse Express Cars
 
511-13  Harlan & Hollingsworth 12-1906 Scrapped at Sayre, Feb. 7, 1936
514   "      1-1907  to tool car 94204 Scrapped Coxton,
           April 30, 1946
515   "      1-1907  Scrapped June 9 1920
516   "      12-1906 Scrapped Sayre Dec. 13, 1935
517   "      1-1907   Scrapped Sayre Dec. 13, 1935
518   "      1-1907   Scrapped Feb. 7, 1936
519   "      1-1907 to tool car 94203 9-21-35, Scrapped
              Packerton April 19, 1949
520          1-1907    to Express car 530, Oct 2, 1928,
             Scrapped Sayre, Feb. 7, 1936


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gfluck1
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« Reply #4 on: Nov 21st, 2013, 11:08pm »
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Many thanks for the amplifying information, it is appreciated.
 
v/r
 
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« Reply #5 on: Nov 22nd, 2013, 12:59pm »
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on Nov 21st, 2013, 6:18am, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Pictured below is LV 605, a Milk Car built in 1894 by the Jackson & Sharp Company of Wilmington, Delaware. The Official Railway Equipment Register suggests the Lehigh Valley purchased 40 cars (Road No.’s 601-640), classified as “BM - A car without a means of refrigeration. Constructed and equipped for passenger train service and used primarily for the transportation of milk cans or bottles”. The majority of the series will last until 1931 after being rebuilt with steel underframes. (Photo from the Delaware Public Archives).

H&H was eventually acquired by Bethlehem Steel and was their passenger car manufacturing arm and went out of business in about 1939. Reincarnated as an independent freight car builder in about 1945, but failed within two years. Order backlog distributed among other builders.


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« Reply #6 on: Nov 28th, 2013, 6:23am »
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Pictured (Post Card photo) below is LV 96673, a Hospital Car that was privately owned by the Lehigh Valley, was stationed in Lehighton and only appears in the 1903 ORER, I wish I had more information on this car.

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« Reply #7 on: Nov 28th, 2013, 6:26am »
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on Nov 28th, 2013, 6:23am, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Pictured (Post Card photo) below is LV 96673, a Hospital Car that was privately owned by the Lehigh Valley, was stationed in Lehighton and only appears in the 1903 ORER, I wish I had more information on this car.

And now the car diagram from "TRAIN SHED CYCLOPEDIA, No. 42".


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« Reply #8 on: Nov 28th, 2013, 1:38pm »
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Here is a repeat posting of some interesting LV cars (passenger "car" and automobile "car"!)
that were first discussed here:
http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=40685
back in 2007. These photos are from the collection of David Stevens, who is the grandson of the gentleman in the photo..He gave me permission to post them on-line, thanks David!
post from 2007:
 
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Hey everyone,
We are very privileged to have some beautiful never-before-seen LV photos!    
 
I recieved an email from Dave Stevens, along with the following two photos. Dave is the grandson of Fred Stevens, who was an official Agriculturist for the LVRR around the 1911-1914 time period.
Fred worked for the LV in NY state, Geneva-Ithaca and environs.
 
Dave wanted to know what the building in the background of the passenger car picture is..Im not sure..
my immediate thought was Glen Springs in Watkins Glen, but the LV didnt have tracks in front of Glen Springs like that..
(photo could have been anywhere along the LV I suppose..although Fred worked in NY)
 
I never even KNEW the LV had an Agriculturist!    
very interesting..
 
Dave gave me permission to share the photos here, and he said he would join the forum to share more information about his Grandfather..
thanks Dave! and welcome aboard!    
 
(I have larger-res scans, if anyone wants to see more details on anything..I resized the two below smaller for web use..)
 
thanks,
Scot
 

 

 

 
And in the original thread (linked above) we determined that the passnger car photo was taken in Ithaca, NY, with the Cornell University campus in the background.
 
Scot


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gfluck1
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« Reply #9 on: Nov 30th, 2013, 8:20am »
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Here is some additional information the the "Industrial Department - Agricultural" car posted by Scot:
 
LV 360 added to LV roster sometime between September 1898 and June 1900, was Dining car until sometime between March 1913 and April 1914, at which time was converted for the Industrial Dept as the Agricultural Car. It would again be converted to a Kitchen Car sometime between April 1917 and Sept 1918 and remain that way until sometime in 1931/32 when it is removed from service.
 
Also posted an article in the "From The Archives......." thread, page 26, post 508.


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« Reply #10 on: Dec 1st, 2013, 5:10pm »
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Pictured below is LV 215, a 1st Class Day Coach with a seating capacity for 76 passengers, built in 1891 by the Jackson & Sharp Company of Wilmington, Delaware. The Official Railway Equipment Register suggests that the Lehigh Valley purchased 20 cars (Road No.’s 200-219), the series will stay in service until 1909. (Photo from the Delaware Public Archives).

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« Reply #11 on: Dec 8th, 2013, 2:30pm »
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Sister to previousily posted LV 215.

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« Reply #12 on: Dec 11th, 2013, 5:27pm »
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Pictured below is LV 413, a Combination Baggage/Mail/Coach, built in 1891 by the Jackson & Sharp Company of Wilmington, Delaware. Unable to determine how long it remained on roster or if it was rebuilt. (Photo from the Delaware Public Archives).  


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« Reply #13 on: Feb 20th, 2014, 10:21pm »
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Pictured below is LV 350, a Business Car, built in October 1908 by the Lehigh Valley at their Sayre Shops. Classified as “PV – private car used as officers’ or private individual’s car and railroad pay car – usually composed of sleeping compartments, dining compartments, observation end and with kitchen, servant’s quarter’s and toilet and bathroom”. It will remain in official service until 1945, when it is converted into a “Tool Car, 94200” for M.o.W. service and finally scrapped at Packerton, December 10, 1954. (Photo from George Elwood’s Fallen Flags Website – Richard Palmer Collection) Special thanks to Richard Palmer for filling in the blanks.  



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« Reply #14 on: Feb 20th, 2014, 10:23pm »
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Pictured below is the car diagram for LV 350.


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on Nov 28th, 2013, 6:23am, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Pictured (Post Card photo) below is LV 96673, a Hospital Car that was privately owned by the Lehigh Valley, was stationed in Lehighton and only appears in the 1903 ORER, I wish I had more information on this car.

 
After finding the article on the "Lehigh Valley Hospital Car", I did a search through the copies of the Annual Reports I have and listed in the 1904 thru 1913 "Inventory of Equipment" is a hospital car and that there were 2 hospital cars listed on the 1918 thru 1922 reports. I am also relisting the article below.


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The attached is from the Wednesday, March 27, 1963, "Hazleton Standard-Speaker", "ON THE ROAD - No. 84", "Brief Historical Sketch of Lehigh Valley Locomotives".

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The attached is from the Friday, April 6, 1956, "The Plain Speaker" (Hazleton, PA), "ON THE ROAD - No. 82", "Brief Historical Sketch of Lehigh Valley Locomotives".

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The attached is from the Friday, August 2, 1912, "The Wilkes-Barre Record", "RAILROAD NEWS".  


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« Reply #19 on: Dec 8th, 2015, 9:09pm »
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I really enjoy the many many articles gfluck1 has contributed. Thanks for some great stuff!  
 
I did have a question and a couple of comments about his post 16 in which he pasted a copy of an article about Lehigh Valley gas-powered motor cars from the Hazelton Standard-Speaker. I copied and pasted the relevant paragraphs from the news story below:
 

 
In the paragraph on the right is there a typo? Motor Car 11 is listed twice and described in different ways. First it says Car 11 had a capacity of 32 passengers and was 74' 0.5" long then states that Car 11 had a capacity of 12 passengers and was 73' 11.5" long. Is the first car mentioned actually Car 10?  
 
I'm particularly interested in LV Motor Car 11 as it was involved in two accidents. One was in December 1943 while operating as Extra 11 West, deadheading with a coach from Newark to South Plainfield (after making a run east as Train 54). The car was being operated in reverse -- with the coach leading -- and struck the rear of a local freight (Extra 2142 West)  at Cranford NJ.  The freight train conductor was killed. An ICC report did not note any damage to Car 11.
 
The second accident was seven years later in April 1950. By now No. 11 was operating out of Lehighton PA in local passenger service to Hazelton. When the accident occurred Car 11 was operating as Train No. 209 consisting of Motor Car 11, one passenger coach and a boxcar. It was following Train No. 9, The Black Diamond, west out of Lehighton.  No. 9 was being pulled by PAs 608 and 604 and both were suffering intermittent failures. About 0.5 miles east of Mauch Chunk station No. 9 stopped on the mainline and was hit in the rear by No. 209. In the ICC Report on this accident the Commission stated Car 11 was "considerably damaged." The Standard-Speaker article states Car 11 was scrapped in December 1950.
 
Both reports may be found on-line. Here's a link to the Cranford accident report (click here) and to the Mauch Chunk report (click here). Both links are to the Lehigh Valley website called LVRR.com. It's a great site.


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