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Rich Chapin
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LV PIGGYFLATS & OPERATIONS
 
« on: Mar 25th, 2002, 9:27am »
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SEARCHING FOR INFO & PICTURES ON THE LV PIGGYBACK FLATCARS, TRAILERS AND THE OPERATIONS.  
 
WE KNOW LV PIGGYS STARTED 1954, AND THE FLATS WERE HOME-MADE FROM HOPPERS, THAN GONS. LOTS OF HOLES TO FILL IN, ALL HELP GREATLY APPRECIATED!!
 
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« Reply #1 on: Mar 26th, 2002, 7:56am »
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The actual LV trailer that used to be in Lockwood has been gone a while now, but if you dig through your Railpaces the last 2-3 years there was a shot of one that's still around in Elmira NY - so if that's not too huge of a drive, could always go see the real thing.

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« Reply #2 on: Jun 15th, 2004, 7:59am »
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This is a more specific site for the TOFC operations on the LV.
http://www.lvrrmodeler.net/apollos.htm


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« Reply #3 on: Jun 16th, 2004, 10:39am »
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Anyone know exactly where in Elmira the trailer is?
thanks,
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« Reply #4 on: Jun 16th, 2004, 12:23pm »
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There is a LV intermodal trailer at the former Bethlehem freight house in Bethlehem Pa

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« Reply #5 on: Dec 30th, 2006, 3:58pm »
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To all the TOFC fans out there -
 
Here is a list provided by our own LEHIGHVALLEE from elsewhere on the 'net regarding the LV trailer roster -
 
T-1 to T-23 built Freuhauf late 1954 33' general purpose van outside
post with curbside door red w/ white lettering.
 
T-25 to T-39 built Baker Trailer and Body co. 1955, 33' general
purpose van smooth side with curb side door, red w/ white lettering
photo of one of these trailers on pg. 103 Lehigh Valley memories
 
T-50 to T-52 built 1955 by Freuhauf 33' insulated van with curb side
door, painted yellow w/ black lettering
 
T-53 to T-57 built 1955 by Baker trailer and Body, 33' insulated van
with curb side door, smooth side, painted yellow w/ black lettering
 
T-58 to T-67 built ? by Andrews Industries 33' insulated van, no
other info on this series
 
T-68 to T-87 built 1959 by Trailmobile 35' insulated van with curb
side door smooth side, painted yellow w/ black lettering
 
T-100 to T-114 built ? by Andrews Indutries 35' general purpose van,
no other info on this series
 
T-115 to T-149 built 1960 by Highway Trailer 40' general purpose van
outside post with curb side door, painted red w/ white lettering
 
T-300 to T-363 built 1959 by Trailmobile 35' no side door, smooth
sides painted red w/ black lettering


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« Reply #6 on: Dec 31st, 2006, 8:51pm »
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As mentioned a while back, the Lockwood trailer was torn apart.
 
I saw this one at a junk yard in Athens Twshp, and it too appears long gone:
 

 
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« Reply #7 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 1:18am »
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According to the Lehigh Valley Railroad Company's, January 1, 1960, "Summary of Equipment", they also had some "Flat Bed Type Trailers", Nos. T150 to T-164.

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« Reply #8 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 8:47pm »
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Photo of T-72, 35' Trailmobile, insulated van with curbside door.

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« Reply #9 on: Feb 4th, 2011, 9:41pm »
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Posted this in GTL some time ago. Here it is again. Trailer sat behind a gas station on the corner of North St. and Pre Emption St. in Geneva, NY. Photo taken 11 June 1983. Trailer is now long gone.

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« Reply #10 on: Feb 7th, 2011, 7:49pm »
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From what I can best ascertain, in 1955, the Lehigh Valley first used their 1950 built, 10000 series Flat Cars (50) for TOFC service (reclassified from FM to FC). Referring to the photos below, this is accomplished by adding side rails, end ramps and tie down devices to the car deck. By July 1966 all would once again be reclassified from FC to FM.

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« Reply #11 on: Feb 7th, 2011, 7:57pm »
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Second phase started in 1956 the Lehigh Valley would convert 175 of their 41000 Series, Quad Hoppers and renumber them LV 11000-11174, Series 11000-11059 is equipped with jacks and chains and Series 11060-11174 were equipped with ACF trailer hitches. Pictured below is LV 11089.

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« Reply #12 on: Feb 7th, 2011, 7:59pm »
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Below is the class FC Series 11000 car diagram.

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« Reply #13 on: Mar 20th, 2011, 7:01am »
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photo of LV 11047

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« Reply #14 on: Mar 22nd, 2011, 3:52am »
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As I was casually looking through the "Guess the Location" photos, spotted this little gem, it appears to be a TOFC flat, a LV built, but not sure about length without a profile view.

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« Reply #15 on: Mar 22nd, 2011, 7:42pm »
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"GF",
    My guess is this car is one like your previous photo of LV 11047 which has those same 24 "tie down" loops on the side rails as shown in this last pic, and has solid sides unlike those of the flatcar with side rails pic, which also has the 24 loops. If that being the case, this provides a good view of what the floor looked like on the 11000 series flats (or on this particular one anyway).
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« Reply #16 on: Mar 28th, 2011, 9:43am »
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Here is a link for two trailers ZT 304 and ZT337.  
 
http://www.dnaco.net/~gelwood/other/lv.html
 
The flat cars are a little harder to find.  
 
 


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« Reply #17 on: Mar 28th, 2011, 6:44pm »
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LV started piggy-back operations on July 12, 1954 between Buffalo and Jersey City.

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« Reply #18 on: Jun 8th, 2012, 6:37pm »
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on Feb 7th, 2011, 7:49pm, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
From what I can best ascertain, in 1955, the Lehigh Valley first used their 1950 built, 10000 series Flat Cars (50) for TOFC service (reclassified from FM to FC). Referring to the photos below, this is accomplished by adding side rails, end ramps and tie down devices to the car deck. By July 1966 all would once again be reclassified from FC to FM.

 
After digging thru the ORER's, only 37 of the class were ever reclassified for piggyback service (FC), road no.'s as follows: 10000-10003, 10005, 10007-10013, 10015-10024, 10027, 10028, 10032-10034, 10036, 10038-10043, 10046, 10047 and 10049.
 
In 1960 LV 10028 was reclassified to FM and by October of 1962 the remaining 36 were reclassified back to FM.


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on Feb 4th, 2011, 8:47pm, gfluck1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Photo of T-72, 35' Trailmobile, insulated van with curbside door.

 
Recently obtained color photo T-72


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