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alcoguy1
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« Reply #80 on: Jul 11th, 2006, 1:31am »
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Hi, I know Im posting here for the first time, but I've been using this forum for quite some time now to track whats going on up there in Pen Argyl.  I live in MD and dont get up there very often.  I was however up there at the end of June to get my pictures .  While I was there I was approached by the workers who were restoring the caboose.  At that point it was being sand blasted.  They said it was a L&HR Caboose but they couldnt remember the name of the owner.
I've posted an image I took of the "caboose" on 6/21/05.


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alcoguy1
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« Reply #81 on: Jul 11th, 2006, 1:36am »
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Hopefully the picture will post this time!  

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njvike
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« Reply #82 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 4:31pm »
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on Jul 11th, 2006, 1:36am, alcoguy1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hopefully the picture will post this time!  

 
Hmm, don't see it.


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Marty_Feldner
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« Reply #83 on: Jul 12th, 2006, 9:15pm »
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on Jul 11th, 2006, 1:36am, alcoguy1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hopefully the picture will post this time!  

 
 
Keep trying- if you can't figure it out some of us might be able to help. I'd like to see the shot...


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alcoguy1
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« Reply #84 on: Jul 14th, 2006, 1:53am »
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Thanx!  Ill try it again.  If it doesnt work this time I may need some help.  It's a jpg and its under 500kb.  This time Ill try it in Internet Explorer.  Any way even if the picture doesnt post correctly I thought you may want to see this link .  It goes directly to the real estate site where the land at Pen Argyl is listed for sale. The site is down for maintenance until later today.    
 
http://www.loopnet.com/xNet/MainSite/ContentIndexPages/Pennsylvania/Pen-Argyl/


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Marty_Feldner
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« Reply #85 on: Jul 15th, 2006, 12:37am »
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Well, it looks like the third time was the charm- thanks for posting the picture. It wasn't quite what I was expecting to see...
 
It may not seem apparent, but to my eye this is either an L&HR 10 class caboose, or a Reading NMn class (they were identical, all built by the Reading in '42; as far as I know none of the 50 Reading's are still in existance- they were withdrawn from service in the early seventies, pre-CR.)
 
They looked like wood-bodied cabooses, but were just wood sheathing and roof over steel body framing- necessitated by wartime steel rationing. And, this one has been stripped of everything that wasn't steel; looks like somebody wants it done right.
 
The fact that there is no evidence of a cupola (and the caboose's current location) make me think this is the number 12, last seen (sans cupola) in a scrapyard in Delaware New Jersey, a couple of years ago.
 
Roger K.- thoughts?


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caboose9
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« Reply #86 on: Jul 15th, 2006, 12:34pm »
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Marty Feldner wrote, "To my eye this is either an L&HR 10 class caboose or a Reading NMn class.  As far as I know, none of the 50 Reading's are still in existance."
 
 
 
Hi Marty,
 
I know nothing of the Pen Argyl caboose.
 
I list 5 surviving wood, cupola, RDG 92930-92979, Class NMn, cabooses:
 
92936 - Wanamaker, Kempton & Southern RR, Kempton, PA;
 
92938 - Hershey Park Lost Parents' Shelter, Hershey, PA;
 
92948 - Rail Tours, Jim Thorpe, PA;
 
92966 - Henry Kehs Estate, Bally, PA; &  
 
92973 - as NH&I? 23?, Rail Tours, Jim Thorpe, PA.
 
I wonder what became of 92947, which went to the Ma & Pa RR?
 
Cheers, Roger


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« Reply #87 on: Jul 15th, 2006, 11:52pm »
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Marty Feldner wrote, "This is either an L&HR 10 class or a Reading NMn class."
 
 
Hi Marty,
 
On the L&HR there were 8 cabooses numbered 10 - 17 with 13 changed to 18 after it went into service:
 
10 - Station Pub & Restaurant, Rt. 13, Sugar Loaf, NY;
 
11 - Beck's Tree Farm, Stone Church Rd., Stone Church, PA;
 
12 - Sanico Trash & Recycling, Rt. 46, Delaware, NJ, poor condition, *gone*;
 
13 - became 18;
 
14 - Southern Railraod of NJ, Winslow Junction, NJ, very poor condition;
 
15 - not known to still exist;
 
16 - Phillipsburg Railroad Historians, Cross St. & Pine Alley, Phillipsburg, NJ;
 
17 - Northern Central Railway, New Freedom, PA, very poor condition; &  
 
18 - ex-13, Phillipsburg RR Historians, Cross St. & Pine Alley, Phillipsburg, NJ.
 
If the Pen Argyl car is ex-L&HR, it seems like 12, 14, 15, & 17 would be the most likely candidates and it should be easy enough to check to see if 14 & 17 are still in the locations listed above!
 
Happy Hunting, Roger


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« Reply #88 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 5:29pm »
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Hi,
 
The Pen Argyl, PA, caboose is Jim Smith's L&HR 14.
 
Roger
 
 
 
L&HR 14, Jim Smith, Southern RR of NJ, Winslow Junction, poor condition.


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« Reply #89 on: Jul 17th, 2006, 6:18pm »
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Happy hunting, indeed!
 
Thanks for all the info, Roger. Joe Petaccio had told me several years back that he had plans to restore the 14. Seems like it's finally happening.
 
That leaves the 12 unaccounted for (and, of course, the 15- that one has been an unknown for quite a while...)


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« Reply #90 on: Jan 11th, 2007, 8:42am »
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Group,
 
FYI - It looks like the Pen Argyl shop site will be saved for the time being.  Due to many factors, the company which planned to re-develope the site has withdrawn the project.  
 
So, no Wal-Mart and the shops remain for now at least.  
 
Read about it in the local newspaper http://www.pennlive.com/news/expresstimes/pa/index.ssf?/base/news-9/1168492212234600.xml&coll=2


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« Reply #91 on: Jan 12th, 2007, 10:28pm »
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Good, I`m glad that project died. Just what the Slate Belt didnt need, more low level paying jobs from a thankless company like Wal Mart. Sorry Nolan Perin, you`ll have to get those millions from somewhere else. Maybe you can go back into the garbage business?  

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« Reply #92 on: Jan 21st, 2007, 3:59pm »
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  Good news for now indeed!  The Ashley Colliery has been saved by the Luczene
County freeholders.  The idea of emindent domain by the county ended planned developement of that site. The colliery will now be a show piece for generations to come to see how the coal indusrty ran in Pennsylvania.
  Why can't Pen Argyl do the same?  Everyone wins in this scenerio.


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« Reply #93 on: Jan 21st, 2007, 6:44pm »
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The property the shops is on is actually in Plainfleld Township. And it`s privately owned. My guess is that neither the owner, or the township has any interest in saving it for historical reasons.

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« Reply #94 on: Jan 29th, 2007, 12:42pm »
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Thanks for the great news!!

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« Reply #95 on: Jan 29th, 2007, 4:57pm »
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 If someone really cares to save the site.  Call or write to the state of Pennsylvania's historical register.  
  Enter the site onto the rolls and reasoning must be given as to why this  structure-s should be saved/ historical significance/ uniqueness/ history.
  It is well worth the paper work if anyone here really wants the structure=s to be saved.
  I would write the state, but I am not a resident of Pennsylvania.


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« Reply #96 on: Jul 22nd, 2007, 9:13pm »
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New update for the shops. Some company is now set up west of the shops crushing scrapped cars. They built a new access road from Broadway in Wind Gap, following the old LNE ROW behind the GAF plant. Word is the new Wal Mart-Lowes complex will be built just below Wind Gap on Rte 512.

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« Reply #97 on: Jun 22nd, 2009, 4:00pm »
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No No No thats my hometown dont worry they called it off trust me!!! I know isnt it just sad! check my youtube account 4202EJW!!

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on Jun 22nd, 2009, 4:00pm, 90strasburg wrote:       (Click here for original message)
No No No thats my hometown dont worry they called it off trust me!!! I know isnt it just sad! check my youtube account 4202EJW!!

 
The car wrecking operation?  Wind Gap is my hometown and I can walk out my sisters front door on Liberty Street and see the operation at work on the old bed of the yard.


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« Reply #99 on: Dec 27th, 2009, 12:05pm »
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Well it isn't down yet! I'm pretty sure they are't putting a wall-mart in there! It would be really cool if we could make a group and help maybe restore the engine shed and set out a couple mile or so of track and buy a RS-3 and paint it in L&NE colors and run it up and down it! I't would be a expensive project but there is power and people! Think about all the L&NE lovers we could get together! Raise money and we will end up like most of the successful tourist railroads in eastern Pennsylvania!  

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