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Bits and Pieces - Pine Island, NY
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glenwoodhouse
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« Reply #40 on: Jul 7th, 2006, 11:31pm »
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Just found another one specificly covering the Goshen/Pine Island branches:
 
http://docs.unh.edu/NY/gshn08sw.jpg
 
and this one from 1870 that you can navigate and zoom in on entitled Map of the rail roads of the state of New York.
 
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/map_item.pl (if this link doesn't work try this one:
http://lcweb2.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/r?ammem/gmd:@field(NUMBER+@band(g3801p+rr002660))
 
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glenwoodhouse
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« Reply #41 on: Jul 7th, 2006, 11:40pm »
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Here are some other maps and descriptions available on the above listed site:  
 
They are found in the 19th Century Maps at this site:
http://www.sunysb.edu/libmap/nypath1.htm
 
Map of the rail roads of the state of New York.
1870 map shows drainage, cities and towns, county boundaries, canals, railroads in progress, proposed, and in operation. Shows connection with mineral areas in northern Pennsylvania.
Map of the railroads of the state of New York prepared under the direction of the Rail Road Commissioners, John S. Clark, William J. McAlpine, James B. Swain.
Map of New York and parts of adjacent states showing drainage, relief by hachures, county boundaries, cities and towns. Different colors indicate railroads in operation, in progess of construction and proposed.
Map of the railroads of the state of New York prepared under the direction of Silas Seymour, state engineer surveyor.
Map of New York and parts of adjacent states showing drainage, relief by hachures, county boundaries, cities and towns. Different colors indicate railroads in operation, in progress of construction, and proposed.
Map of the rail-roads of the state of New York prepared under the direction of Van Renssselaer Richmond, state engineer and surveyor; Geo R. Perkins, Dep State Engineer & Surveyor.
Map of New York and parts of adjacent states showing drainage, relief by hachures, county boundaries, cities and towns. Different colors indictate railroads in operation, in progress of construction, and proposed.
Map of the railroads of the state of New York showing the stations, distances & connections with other roads. Thos. Pentingale, L.P. Behn.
Outside the neat line are lists of distances arranged by individual railroad companies. "Connections with other roads" are listed across bottom of map.


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njvike
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« Reply #42 on: Jul 9th, 2006, 3:19pm »
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on Jul 7th, 2006, 10:01pm, glenwoodhouse wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sorry, here is the link to the index page with lots of great NJ RR maps:
 
http://mapmaker.rutgers.edu/HISTORICALMAPS/RAILROADS/Railroads.html
 
Andrea

 
 
Andrea,
 
Thanks for the link.
 
Looking forawrd to exploring in the fall.  
 
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garlicfarmer
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« Reply #43 on: Feb 24th, 2007, 4:04pm »
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Have recently discovered this site. I am a long time resident of Pine Island and am well familiar with the L&NE rail beds  through this area; and the quarries; etc.  
I have a question. I am refering to the L&NE rail bed where it passes through the Wallkill River Wildlife refuge on Oil City Road. A couple of hundred yards from Oil City Road, heading towards Sussex, there is an old concrete foundation of what appears to have been a rail stop of some kind.  
Does anyone know what this was; or have any photos of it. Also; it is approximately right on the New York-New Jersey state line. Does anyone know what state it is in?
Thanks.


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« Reply #44 on: Feb 26th, 2007, 11:03pm »
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Garlicfarmer,
Welcome aboard!!!!
Never noticed it when I used to wander around there from Myslinski's farm (now refuge office, I think) when I was a kid. I will check my old 1908 USGS map and see if anything is noted.
Maybe a water tower (about 1/2 way from Sussex to Pine Island) or loading of produce from the black dirt farms? The plot thickens.......


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« Reply #45 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 1:16pm »
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Welcome garlic farmer. Hope you find your answers here. When the snow is gone and the weather gets a little nicer, I'm planning a trip to explore up there again as we were given some information as to the quarry there. Make for a real nice trip.
 
Ken


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« Reply #46 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 1:17pm »
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On another note, I found this L&NE engine available from Williams for "O" guage
 
http://www.the-gauge.com/showthread.php?t=26114
 
Yes! I purchased one. Now I just need to the caboose and I'm complete with the L&NE


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« Reply #47 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 9:43pm »
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Here's 1908 map and it doesn't show anything. Doesn't mean that something wasn't built.
Definitely will have to check it come when weather gets better.


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« Reply #48 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:08pm »
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Let me know if you come to any conclusion about what it is when you see it. Looking at the map, the concrete foundation I'm referring to is just about exactly on the Orange Co-Sussex Co. line.

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« Reply #49 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:14pm »
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Since some of you have indicated interest in the Pochuck Quarry area, I'm going to try to post some photos. These are all taken on Pochuck Mtn in January of 07. I'm not real good at this; I find that when I downsize photos to fit them on e mail, they tend to lose clarity. But here goes.
 
This one is along the railroad path. The rock wall on the right was (apparently) a kind of loading platform.


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« Reply #50 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:16pm »
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Another view of the RR path. This is the same rock wall-loading platform as in the previous photo.

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« Reply #51 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:18pm »
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An abandoned foundation of a quarry structure (worker's quarters?)

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« Reply #52 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:23pm »
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(Opps!) Sorry about the last photo. Hopefully the rest are the proper size.
 
A view from on top of Pochuck Mtn, actually just above the quarry proper. The foundation was likely a quarry-related structure.


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« Reply #53 on: Feb 27th, 2007, 10:25pm »
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Another quarry-related structure. I cannot determine what it is.

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« Reply #54 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 8:28am »
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Another foundation of a quarry structure. There are about 5 or 6 foundations like this on the mountain. The old histories of the area referred to these as hotels, although I take that to mean some sort of workers quarters.

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« Reply #55 on: Feb 28th, 2007, 8:49am »
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Excellent pictures. Thanks for sharing. I can't wait to explore this area.

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on Feb 24th, 2007, 4:04pm, garlicfarmer wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Have recently discovered this site. I am a long time resident of Pine Island and am well familiar with the L&NE rail beds  through this area; and the quarries; etc.  
I have a question. I am refering to the L&NE rail bed where it passes through the Wallkill River Wildlife refuge on Oil City Road. A couple of hundred yards from Oil City Road, heading towards Sussex, there is an old concrete foundation of what appears to have been a rail stop of some kind.  
Does anyone know what this was; or have any photos of it. Also; it is approximately right on the New York-New Jersey state line. Does anyone know what state it is in?
Thanks.

hi, i am new to this site as a member and wanted to reply to this since nobody else has even though it is a couple years old. I just walked the area yesterday and thought the same thing at first but then figured out it wasn't a foundation but a drainage culvert. If you keep walking to owens station rd. you'll find 2 or 3 more just like it. The one your talking about was filled in so the wildlife preserve can be flooded periodically.


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on Oct 31st, 2010, 8:55pm, fanoflne wrote:       (Click here for original message)

hi, i am new to this site as a member and wanted to reply to this since nobody else has even though it is a couple years old. I just walked the area yesterday and thought the same thing at first but then figured out it wasn't a foundation but a drainage culvert. If you keep walking to owens station rd. you'll find 2 or 3 more just like it. The one your talking about was filled in so the wildlife preserve can be flooded periodically.

 
Thanks for the information. I will be heading out that way soon.
 
Ken


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on Jan 14th, 2006, 9:17pm, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looking the other way back towards Pine Island.



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