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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #20 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 12:57am »
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on Dec 11th, 2007, 11:27am, SRC#90_KB3PQD wrote:       (Click here for original message)
John, at least you got to see those beauties in action. The only time I see them are in pictures or museums. And how exciting is that? OK it's still pretty cool, but not as cool to see them run. You are one of the lucky ones, or maybe I'm just unfortunet? I don't know, I'm confused .
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              Yep, I gotta agree with you...I AM one of the "lucky" ones!! Not only did I encounter G's close-up at Newark's Penn Station numerous times during the pre-PC 1960s, but, I also could walk a block west and watch the PRR trains (both G-hauled and MP-54 MU's) dashing across the Jersey meadows, just outside of the Bergen Portals, which led to the Hudson River Tunnels (and Penn Station, Manhattan). I still clearly recall watching the pans arcing, the distant rumbling of the wheels, and those familiar horns sounding loud and clear. Yep, it was a LOT of fun.....while it lasted!!  John


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #21 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 1:40am »
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Yo John,
 
Little reminder, or slight nudge: GG-1's had a single air horn facing in each direction over each nose. So you only heard one note, one horn, when the horn was blown. And it was LOUD. I had the pleasure of giving a blast on the air horn once in the Sunnyside Yard when my old buddy George gave me the five dollar tour of the insides of a live GG-1. I had a convention in Manhattan to go to, so I was in a suit as well as old George, and so I couldn't take him up on his invitation to go with him to Harrisburg and back in that GG-1, with the train he was getting ready to hook up to. By the way, at that time, the Sunnyside Yards were the world's largest passenger train yards. Anyone out there have any idea how many tracks there were in those days


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #22 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 8:26am »
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A few GG1 runbys (including horn blasts) in this video on YouTube:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKdnMGXCNF0
 
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« Reply #23 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 8:57am »
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Thank you Reed. You have just made my day .
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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #24 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 8:13pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2007, 8:26am, Redwards wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A few GG1 runbys (including horn blasts) in this video on YouTube:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKdnMGXCNF0
 
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Wow, nice video.


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #25 on: Dec 12th, 2007, 11:28pm »
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on Dec 12th, 2007, 8:26am, Redwards wrote:       (Click here for original message)
A few GG1 runbys (including horn blasts) in this video on YouTube:
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKdnMGXCNF0
 
--Reed

 
 Definately interesting----especially the last shot where the GG1 hauled train is outpacing a Metrorail Orange Line train.


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #26 on: Dec 13th, 2007, 1:28am »
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on Dec 12th, 2007, 1:40am, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yo John,
 
Little reminder, or slight nudge: GG-1's had a single air horn facing in each direction over each nose. So you only heard one note, one horn, when the horn was blown. And it was LOUD. I had the pleasure of giving a blast on the air horn once in the Sunnyside Yard when my old buddy George gave me the five dollar tour of the insides of a live GG-1. I had a convention in Manhattan to go to, so I was in a suit as well as old George, and so I couldn't take him up on his invitation to go with him to Harrisburg and back in that GG-1, with the train he was getting ready to hook up to. By the way, at that time, the Sunnyside Yards were the world's largest passenger train yards. Anyone out there have any idea how many tracks there were in those days

  Hi, Pennsy: You are quite right about the G's horn(s). What I meant was, I'd often hear TWO trains hauled by G's passing one another, therefore, 2 horns. And, man, you are right on the mark when you say those horn(s) were LOUD when they blew!! MAN!!!! So were thier bell(s).....those things clanged so darn loud that you could practically feel your rib cage vibrate if you were on the platform watching one pull in! EVERYTHING about these graceful, powerful machines was truly "larger than life".........they were like no other electric ever built.....they had a style....a dignity.....and a CLASS......all thier own. Truly monarchs of the rails in my book!!  John


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #27 on: Dec 13th, 2007, 10:35am »
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Yo John,
 
Okay, you mentioned the Bell. It too was loud, and large.
 
The big question: On a GG-1, where was the Bell


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« Reply #28 on: Dec 13th, 2007, 11:26am »
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Wasn't it on a corner under the body? That's what I thought I heard.
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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #29 on: Dec 22nd, 2007, 4:34pm »
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I know that the majority of the GG1,s were bulit in the Altoona shops, but I would like to know where these freshly built loco,s were tested after assembly, seeing as the lines around Altoona were not electrified.
 
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« Reply #30 on: Dec 22nd, 2007, 7:57pm »
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on Dec 22nd, 2007, 4:34pm, Ronzzr11 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I know that the majority of the GG1,s were bulit in the Altoona shops, but I would like to know where these freshly built loco,s were tested after assembly, seeing as the lines around Altoona were not electrified.
 
 Ronzzr11

 
 PRR had a test track, in the 1930's, on what is now the NEC near Claymont, Delaware. Most of the preliminary testing in the development of the GG1, including the comparison testing of the prototype GG1 and the R1 was done at that location. Since all of the GG1's were built between 1934 and 1943, I suspect that any testing of production models would also have taken place at Claymont.


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #31 on: Dec 23rd, 2007, 5:09am »
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Thanks for that Walt, I,d been looking at old plans, online, for the Altoona shops, and realized that I had no idea where these loco,s could have been run.
 
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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #32 on: Dec 23rd, 2007, 10:42am »
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Hi All,
 
That test track was also used as part of their experimental test facility. New tracks, new catenary, new insulators etc. etc. were also evaluated there. PRR was one of the first to have its own test facilities. That is why many of its steam engines are now classics.  
 
By the way, no one did get the location of the GG-'s bell, so here it is.
 
The forward end of a GG- 1 is opposite the end with the exhaust stack for the steam generator. From the engineer's side, forward end, go forward, past the lead ponies, and up. Attached to the forward skirt, on the inside, is the bell. It is a large brass, gold colored, bell. And it is LOUD.


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Re:  About GG1s
 
« Reply #33 on: Jan 4th, 2009, 7:45am »
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Here is some other notes about these excellent
locomotives.
GG-1s were somewhat cramped for a big man.
They tended to reek of ozone unless the windows
were open when under way. Additionally, they were
hot and smelled of hot oil.  
 
They were not as hot as
steamers got in mild weather, but buttoned up in
winter GG-1s took a lot of getting used to. The
salaries on the NYC-Wash clockers tended to get
one used to this matter. Still some old hands opted
for working industrial and classification jobs despite
the lower wages and more trying work conditions
upon MD's advice. So they gave up the ten trips a
month guaranteed ride down the raceway.  
 
Back then everyone smoked tobacco or otherwise  
was a user. Smokers on the job tended to
be cigar and pipe smokers, more than the  
general population which was more heavily biased
towards cigarettes. So the inability to handle the
ozone and oil stench was most likely only part of
the problem.
I should note , I present this for its educational
value, if you will - as I am an admirer of GG-1
performance and reliability. Fine locos .
Good-Luck, PJB  


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Re: Stupid question about GG1s
 
« Reply #34 on: Jan 16th, 2009, 1:44pm »
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PJB, that's something no one will hear these days. That's some very interesting info. Thanks for posting that.

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