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PrrGuy
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Niagara Jct electrics
 
« on: Sep 25th, 2006, 8:42pm »
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Waaaay back in 1941 the CSS&SB sold two Steeple Cabs to the Niagara Jct...Anybody know the numbers they got on this road as well as disposition?

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« Reply #1 on: Sep 26th, 2006, 9:38am »
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One of them was sold to the PATCO Hi-Speed line in New Jersey.
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45718
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45719
 
http://world.nycsubway.org/perl/show?45720
 
Enjoy!


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« Reply #2 on: Sep 26th, 2006, 11:40am »
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Wow! I had no idea it lasted that long. It this loco still on their roster?

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« Reply #3 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 8:54am »
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Yes.  It was repainted in 2001 and is used mostly for switching cars around the shops in Lindenwold.

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« Reply #4 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 10:11am »
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I've done a little research on that loco...I'm not quite sure it's one of the ex CSS ones. The ones they sold to the Niagara Junction were 53 ton locos, the loco in the pictures seems a little bigger then that, also they were built in 1927..the builders plate on this one is dated 1937.

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« Reply #5 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 2:08pm »
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Sorry if it's not the one you're looking for, but it's the only ex-NJ loco I know of that still exists.

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« Reply #6 on: Sep 27th, 2006, 4:25pm »
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Nope, looks like its a different one...I'm not sure whose that was...

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« Reply #7 on: Sep 28th, 2006, 10:04am »
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This may or may not be relevant. According to CERA Bulletin 129, Not Only Passengers, the NJ ordered three Class D  
B-W locos between 1916 and 1937.
 
Later on, in 1952 the line had at least six center-cab locos
(GE, 1952). When dieselization came, two were transferred to Conrail to work around Grand Central Terminal, and one, as of 1992, was in work-train service for the Port Authority Transit Corporation in the Philly area. I have no idea if any of these survive.


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« Reply #8 on: Sep 28th, 2006, 10:22am »
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Hi All,
 
Apparently lots of steeple cab electrics survive, even to today. So far the survivors seem to be the ones with trolley poles on them. Haven't seen one with a pantograph on it for quite some time. Last  steeple cab electric I was hauled around in was at the Perris RR Museum, Perris, CA. also know as the Orange Empire RR museum. A very reliable little engine.


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« Reply #9 on: Oct 6th, 2006, 10:40pm »
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3 of the GE's ended up at Conrail and later Metro North for operations inside GCT.
 The 3 units were scrapped about 3 or 4 years ago


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« Reply #10 on: Oct 7th, 2006, 9:27am »
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Bob Wayner's 1965 book "Electric Locomotive Rosters" showed this for the NJ:
 
3  B-W 5/13  scrap 1952
4     " "     to Cornwall St. Ry. #2nd 9 in 1952
5     "   12/16  scrapped, date not shown
6     "    2/20  to Sand Springs 1005 in 1946
7     "  " " "  "   1006  "     "
8     "    12/28  in service in 1965  
9     "     6/37    "  " "     "      
10     ? ?    ex-CSS&SB 1005 in 12/41; scrapped by 1965
11 " "     "   " 1006  "     "  retired by 1965
12  "     "   may be from Oklahoma Ry.
14-20  GE 6/52-8/52.    
 
Since this 1965 roster, I have this fragmentary info, which, hopefully, others can correct and embellish:
 
#8 became PATCO 405 and, presumably, #9 became PATCO 404.
 
#14-20 became Conrail 4750-56, class E-10.  #4750 and 4753 (and one other??) went to MTA-MNCR service and were subsequently numbered MN 402-403.
 


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« Reply #11 on: Oct 7th, 2006, 3:29pm »
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Thanks for the info! CSS&SB retired the last of it's steeplecabs in 1965 also. Too bad, I thought maybe we had one surviover somewhere.

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« Reply #12 on: Aug 18th, 2009, 12:48pm »
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on Oct 7th, 2006, 3:29pm, PrrGuy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Thanks for the info! CSS&SB retired the last of it's steeplecabs in 1965 also. Too bad, I thought maybe we had one surviover somewhere.

I don't think it's the one at the beginning of this thread, but NJ #15 was brought to South Buffalo, NY by the WNYRHS.
 
NJ 15 switching Foote Yard in Niagara Falls, 4-9-1977
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1711362
 
CR 4751 (ex-NJ 15) being hauled west behind a Conrail GE/Alco/EMD consist through Rochester NY, 4-21-1979
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1712044
with pantograph removed, adapted for 3rd rail territory
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1712045
 
WNYRHS web page on NJ #15
http://www.trainweb.org/wnyrhs/nj15.htm


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« Reply #13 on: Sep 19th, 2009, 2:46am »
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In 1967,I saw the Niagra Jct. Rwy. I saw several of their locomotives,but none of them were moving.

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