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Re: the little known electrics
 
« Reply #20 on: Dec 9th, 2009, 1:36pm »
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on Aug 21st, 2005, 9:00pm, green_elite_cab wrote:       (Click here for original message)
 its strange that electrification hasn't really caught on yet....

 
 
Not strange that electrification hasnt caught on yet. Its the money aspect of the deal. In Britain, total electric main lines was fine because of the size of the country. When you get a country as big as the US wit money hungry class 1s competing wit each other, electrics are totally over looked. Look what happened to steam....when diesel popped out, steam died. It was easier to operate a fleet of powerful diesel locomotives instead of building a dedicated electrified line and run equally powerful electric locomotives the major builders supplied.  
 
As of modern day, sure we could benefit from electrified freight rails.....but da money it'll cost to built this new infrastructure would be massive. Coupled on with the fact you'd have to maintain these wires and substations that'll be located next to the middle of nowhere and you have yet another huge money eater. I figure once its all said and done, the cost will get outweighed by profit. No more having to fix massive fuel suckin diesel prime movers, their generators, alternators, radiator fans not to mention the cooling system and fuel system. Id love to see a lone 88 car freight train lead by a trio of 6000hp electric freight locomotives in either CSX or NS paint. Brand new General Electric AcE60MA anybody? EMD ESD90MAC?


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« Reply #21 on: Dec 10th, 2009, 8:25pm »
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Britain's not the best example - most European countries have significantly more electrification.
 
I've noticed a strong correlation between electrification and government-owned railways. Particularly obvious is de-electrification in Brazil and Mexico at the same time as privatization.
 
I've seen a suggestion that explains this very well. It was in terms of US law, but I gather it's broadly similar in most countries. Electrification raises the value of the railroad's infrastructure, therefore raising its property taxes. State railways don't have to contend with this. It was suggested that, if not for the tax increase (that is, counting construction, operation and maintenance), electrification of many US freight mainlines would be profitable.


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