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« Reply #40 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 4:01pm »
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The last day that a GG1 was run is Oct. 28,1983 and retired Oct.31,1983. Here is a picture of it.

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« Reply #41 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 4:04pm »
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PRR's Federal Express fell to the basement of Washington Union Station on Jan. 14,1953. The day of Eisenhower Inauguration, Here is a picture of it.

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« Reply #42 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 4:34pm »
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That GG1 is No 4876. Nine months after that wreck, it was back on the rails, and still exists today, albeit in a deteriorated state, at the B&O museum in Baltimore. And contrary to most descriptions of that wreck, it was NOT No 4876's brakes that failed. A defective angle cock on the third of the 13 New Haven pasenger cars which made up the Federal's consist had stuck closed shutting off the air to the braking systems of the ten trailing cars. When the GG1's engineer made his first brake application upon approaching Union Station, the brakes on the locomotive and the first three cars engaged, but the brakes on the trailing ten cars did not, in effect pushing the train into the station, with the locomotive and first three cars actually skidding into the terminal.
   What is ironic is that that angle cock had caused a long delay somwhere in Rhode Island, but the crew managed to temporarily correct the problem. However, when the changeover from diesel to electric occurred at New Haven, the problem was never mentioned to the new crew, so that when the PRR crew, and No 4876 took over the train  at NYP, they had no inkling that there was a problem waiting to bite them.


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« Reply #43 on: Oct 11th, 2005, 6:22pm »
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Hi Walt,
 
Thanks for the elucidation. I always knew there was more to that story of # 4876. What is really surprising is that no one caught and fixed the problem in the first place. Was that anglecock broken, loose, unable to be fixed in the open position, or what
 
 Had a similar problem with F-59PHI # 886 of Metrolink recently. The engine could not be controlled from the cab car and the engineman and conductor had to cooperate via radio to get the train, cab car forward, back to LATC. The Engineman controlled the F-59PHI, and was told what to do by the conductor, running the cab car. I and the rest of the passengers offered to push. After overnight repairs, the engine was back in service.


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« Reply #44 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 9:36am »
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on Oct 11th, 2005, 6:22pm, Pennsy wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Hi Walt,
 
Thanks for the elucidation. I always knew there was more to that story of # 4876. What is really surprising is that no one caught and fixed the problem in the first place. Was that anglecock broken, loose, unable to be fixed in the open position, or what
 

 
 It was the result of a design defect in that series of New Haven Passenger Cars. The anglecock was positioned in such a way that the lever which opened and closed it would make contact with a structural member under the car while running, which would close the  lever, unbeknownst to the crew. What happened in Rhode Island was that the brakes wouldn't release on those cars, resulting in the delay. As indicated, this problem was never reported, and the anglecock closed again just outside DC, this time while the train was in motion. After the 1953 wreck, that entire series of cars was withdrawn until the defect could be remedied.


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« Reply #45 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 10:24am »
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Hi Walt,
 
Thanks for that. Nothing like closing and locking the Barn Door, after the livestock have escaped.


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« Reply #46 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 10:28am »
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The good news about the wreck at Union Station was that nobody was killed

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« Reply #47 on: Oct 12th, 2005, 12:44pm »
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on Oct 12th, 2005, 10:28am, silver_champion wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The good news about the wreck at Union Station was that nobody was killed

 
 Very true. In fact, there were some commuters in the last car that had boarded the train in Baltimore ( this was long before the advent of MARC) who detrained after the wreck and simply stated that they thought the "stop" at Union Station was "a little rough".


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« Reply #48 on: Oct 15th, 2005, 9:00pm »
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What other loco did its job for 50 years in service as great as the GG1

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« Reply #49 on: Oct 16th, 2005, 1:44am »
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on Oct 11th, 2005, 4:01pm, silver_champion wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The last day that a GG1 was run is Oct. 28,1983 and retired Oct.31,1983.
That's one of two that were saved from NJT; numbers 4877 and 4879, both having retained their PRR numbers.
 
BTW, NJT's GG1s were 44 years and 9 months old (most of them) at their retirement.  Currently, the oldest engines on NJT are some of the GP40PH-2Bs, a few of them being 40 years old already.


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« Reply #50 on: Feb 11th, 2006, 3:10pm »
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I can remember back when the first Metrolingers came out. The GG1 had to come out and save the Metroliner. Here is a picture.


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« Reply #51 on: Feb 24th, 2006, 8:07am »
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Lord only knows that I wish that I had the money and space for one of these GG1 that is sitting in Coopertown Jct. N.Y. They are there doing NOTHING. Look at the picture and see for yourself. I love these engines. Power Ball, well if I had hit it I would have had a GG1, One other thing why Coopertown Jct.


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« Reply #52 on: Jul 13th, 2006, 9:01pm »
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I  know this is an old thread but I stumbled across on Railpace website.  NJT GG1's in storage in the early 80's. http://www.railpace.com/photogallery/old/gg1.jpg

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« Reply #53 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:11am »
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You will know when you look at this picture that I love the GG1. I named the picture "HEAVEN"


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« Reply #54 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 10:50am »
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Hi Yo Silver;
 
Nice shot of my old stamping grounds, Sunnyside Yards, Long Island City. However, that was taken post-PRR. I would have loved to see all of those GG-1's in Tuscan Red and Brunswick Green.


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« Reply #55 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 11:23am »
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   W-O-W. Does that picture give me chills or what.? All those classic locomotives.
Super photo. Thanks.
 
   Bruce


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« Reply #56 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 3:48pm »
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Pennsy, Here is a picture that I got off of RailPicture.Net, It looks like Wilmington.

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« Reply #57 on: Sep 21st, 2006, 4:03pm »
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Hi,
 
Could also be the shops at Sunnyside.


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« Reply #58 on: Oct 25th, 2006, 9:49am »
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In this picture you will see two Amtrak's GG1 passing the grave of the Late Great Penn Station


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