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« Reply #80 on: Apr 27th, 2004, 10:27pm »
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on Apr 27th, 2004, 10:14pm, RDG484 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There is a former South Shore "Joe" preserved at the Illinois RR Museum. †Also the B&O RR Museum used to have a Joe, also ex-South Shore, but I heard it got sold to another museum; I don't know which one.
 
So that means the one in Deer Lodge is the only Milwaukee Road unit that is preserved? Nice to see some of the South Shore units being preserved. Say, when was the last of the South Shore Little Joes retired?
 
I know that one of the Bipolar Passenger units is preserved at the museum in St. Louis. Any of the Milwaukee Boxcabs get preserved?


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« Reply #81 on: May 8th, 2004, 1:21pm »
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Hi All,
 
I made a point on another thread that is worth repeating here. Probably the best was to preserve an engine is on videotape, film, movies, and now DVD's.  
 
In a movie you have the advantage of seeing the engine perform at its best as it was designed to do, with the additional advantage of big name movie stars and a nice plot and story line.  
 
Anyone remember movies with memorable engines, such as the GG-1 that figured prominently in the story ? I remember some movies where the engine was one of the stars and not just part of the scene or scenery.


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« Reply #82 on: May 25th, 2004, 4:56am »
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Hi All,
 
I made a point on another thread that is worth repeating here. Probably the best was to preserve an engine is on videotape, film, movies, and now DVD's.  
 
In a movie you have the advantage of seeing the engine perform at its best as it was designed to do, with the additional advantage of big name movie stars and a nice plot and story line.  
 
Anyone remember movies with memorable engines, such as the GG-1 that figured prominently in the story ? I remember some movies where the engine was one of the stars and not just part of the scene or scenery.
From seeing some pictures of it, the GREAT NORTHERN Y-1 boxcab that was rebuilt using cabs from a Diesel Electric Locomotive looked great. Too bad no videos of it exist. It would have been fun if a Joe and this unit were preserved in running condition, would have been great to see these two face off.


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« Reply #83 on: May 25th, 2004, 11:38am »
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on May 25th, 2004, 4:56am, EvergreenRailfan wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 From seeing some pictures of it, the GREAT NORTHERN Y-1 boxcab that was rebuilt using cabs from a Diesel Electric Locomotive looked great. Too bad no videos of it exist. It would have been fun if a Joe and this unit were preserved in running condition, would have been great to see these two face off.

 
From what I read in "When the Steam Railroads Electrified," that same Y-1 with the EMD cabs was sold to the Pennsy along with 6 others (which were reclassified FF-2's) but was only used for spare parts for the others.


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« Reply #84 on: May 25th, 2004, 9:27pm »
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From what I read in "When the Steam Railroads Electrified," that same Y-1 with the EMD cabs was sold to the Pennsy along with 6 others (which were reclassified FF-2's) but was only used for spare parts for the others.

What a waste. That and the Little Joe that the Milwaukee rebuilt with EMD cabs showed how ingenous some shop crewman were at rebuilding wrecked units.


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« Reply #85 on: Jun 22nd, 2004, 12:31am »
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 With all these electric engine enthusiasts on this site, I would srongly recommend going to the Illinois Railroad Museum in Union, Illinois.
 
  It started out as a trolley museum and has expanded to include interurban, a GG!  4927 restored to PRR Green with gold stripes, C,SS&SB 803 in its restored colors, an NYC S motor among many others.
 
  It also has a great array of steam, diesel, passenger and freight equipment


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« Reply #86 on: Jun 25th, 2004, 10:16pm »
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wow, i could have swore i posted my vote on here, but i guess i didn't.  i'm some what split between the E-60CP and the GG-1. both then! no law against voteing for 2 seperate things.......right?

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wow, i could have swore i posted my vote on here, but i guess i didn't. †i'm some what split between the E-60CP and the GG-1. both then! no law against voteing for 2 seperate things.......right?

Hey, I have two favorites myself, actually three. Two were the Great Northern Electrics, and the third was the Little Joe. I never got to see the first two, and I saw one in Deer Lodge about 12 years ago on display.


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« Reply #88 on: Jun 26th, 2004, 10:00am »
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Hi All,
 
Interesting points gentlemen. I really hadn't given much thought to electric engines, motors, of anything but PRR.
 
Given that open door, I'll walk into the New Haven RR with their EP series of electric engines. My favorite would probably be the EP-5, with the bulldog nose on each end, a beautiful engine, well preserved by Lionel in O gauge. Of course the older EP's, the box cabs, the model for the GG-1 also have to be remembered.


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« Reply #89 on: Jul 14th, 2004, 11:48pm »
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And just as a reminder that quit many railroads outside the US is depending on electric locomotives for their heaviest and busiest mainlines, especially within Western Europe whereas the diesel engines more or less have been forced to retire to the branch lines (or the scrap yards).  
 
Iíll provide some links to one of my own favourites (although I also have a soft spot for the GG1), the Swedish class Dm3 1-D-D-D-1 electrical locomotive which is now slowly being phased out from active service at the Malmbanan line (the Ore line) that runs in between the cities of LuleŚ, Gšllivare and Kiruna Ūn Sweden to the year-round ice free port of Narvik in Norway.
 
The line itself is roughly 500 kilometres long (circa 310 miles) and itís situated in the sub-arctic region of northern Scandinavia. The first part of the line opened with aid of British engineers in March 1888 and it was fully electrified with overhead catenary in between 1910 to 1915. †
 
First the older version at http://www.sjk.se/tag/lokbild/dm3_brun.jpg and then secondly the two pictures of how the engine looks after being modernized some years ago. http://railfaneurope.net/pix/se/electric/Dm3/SJ_Dm3_1214.jpghttp://railfaneurope.net/pix/se/private/MTAB/P1130031.jpg
 
The first picture is to be found at the website of the Swedish Railway Association http://www.sjk.se and then the second two on the European Railway Server http://railfaneurope.net
 
The engines were built in 1960 but their technology is based on proven engine design that dates back to the 1920s. †The basic technical data is as follows. †The propulsion is by single-phase low frequency current at 15 000 V and 162/3 Hz. The engine has six 1 609hp (1 200 kW) motors, driving the wheels by gearing, jackshaft and connecting rods. † †  
 
The engines weight is 240 metric tons (circa 529 000lb). Maximum axleload is 20 metric tons (44 000lb) and the overall length is 35, 25 metres (115 ft 8 in). the tractive effort is 932 kN (210 000lb) and their maximum speed is 75 km/h (47 mph)
 
 
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I would like to put in a vote for the Virginian Railway's 12 class EL-C, 11 of which ran under a total of 5 fallen flags (after VGN, N&W, then New Haven class EF4, Penn Central and Conrail class E33). They would probably still be in use today if the wires were still there for freight. Attached is a photo of one of two extant units, this one at the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke in original livery.
 
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I would like to put in a vote for the Virginian Railway's 12 class EL-C, 11 of which ran under a total of 5 fallen flags (after VGN, N&W, then New Haven class EF4, Penn Central and Conrail class E33). They would probably still be in use today if the wires were still there for freight. Attached is a photo of one of two extant units, this one at the Virginia Museum of Transportation in Roanoke in original livery.
 
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No. 135 was the only unit to be painted for all 5 of its owners:  VGN, N&W, NH, PC, and CR.


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« Reply #92 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 12:27pm »
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Also the B&O RR Museum used to have a Joe, also ex-South Shore, but I heard it got sold to another museum; I don't know which one.
 
 † Great thread and one I can actually contribute to. I figured if ever I was to see an electric of any type, I'd have to drive hours to see it. I found one not more than an hour's drive away, just a little east of Erie.
 
 † Located in Northeast, Pa at the Lake Shore Railway Museum, is the GE 2-D+D-2 electric locomotive, Little Joe of the South Shore. 802 was retired from the CSS&SB in 1980. This is the one from the B&O museum and according to the society, it's "on loan" to the Lake Shore Museum.  

 

 



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« Reply #93 on: Nov 6th, 2004, 10:32pm »
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Coffee,
#802 was at the B&O RR Museum.  I posted a shot in this thread a few pages back.  Thanks for the update.  
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« Reply #94 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 10:27am »
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Hi, Alan. You mentioned the EP-5 of NH. I still have one of the Lionel versions. In the mid fiftys paint scheme. With the big NH on the side.  When I was a kid, I wired it so it could run off the pans.
But a special electric for me is, of course the GG1 4857.  They had power, speed, and class all rolled into one machine.
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You all probably havn't heard this one before, maybe havnt heard of the railroad, but the Piedmont & Northern  ( my avatar, and the largest electrified RR in the south )  that used to run here out of Charlotte, NC had some small boxcab electrics that they used for freight service, these are my favorite, just because they ran around where I live.  One is on display at NCTM.
 
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« Reply #96 on: Nov 11th, 2004, 2:11pm »
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Hey, Cy, somehow I must have missed that electric at Spencer. I've got to look at my videos from 01 and 02 again. Don't seem to remember getting any shots of it. I'll just have to get back up there and correct that. he, he, he.
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    It's in the roundhouse, I believe coupled to a PFE reefer.  It's one of the more unique locos' at the museum.
 
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Some shots I found on the net of 5103. This one from Bill Volkmer collection, date unknown

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Trying to find a recent shot and this is the best I could find

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