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« Reply #20 on: Aug 26th, 2003, 8:46pm »
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Here's another of my favorites  ....while not electric locomotives in the standard sense, heavy traction action is always of interest. I never got to ride them, only walk around and look at them at the Hoboken Terminal back in '70 while I was commuting.

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« Reply #21 on: Aug 27th, 2003, 10:27am »
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Hi Russ,
 
I agree, and accordingly, here is a nice shot of the ubiquitous MP-54. Enjoy
 
Check out the Owl Eyes front windows.


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« Reply #22 on: Aug 27th, 2003, 10:42am »
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Technically, those MU's are locomotives, as the provide the locomotion for the train. They are not only locomotives however.  
 
I wish I could have ridden those on NJT.  


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« Reply #23 on: Aug 27th, 2003, 12:39pm »
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Yup, the FRA does say that individual powered MU units are "locomotives" and makes transit agencies pull them out of service every three months for inspection.
 
Nice shot of those MP54s; looks like Union Interlocking in Rahway NJ, southwest-bound.
 
Speaking of PRR again, I seem to recall an electric locomotive with a body cowl that resembled F-units--this was in a book on the PRR that I seem to have misplaced...anyone recall the type I am talking about?


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« Reply #24 on: Aug 27th, 2003, 12:46pm »
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on Aug 27th, 2003, 12:39pm, IrishChieftain wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Yup, the FRA does say that individual powered MU units are "locomotives" and makes transit agencies pull them out of service every three months for inspection.
 
Nice shot of those MP54s; looks like Union Interlocking in Rahway NJ, southwest-bound.
 
Speaking of PRR again, I seem to recall an electric locomotive with a body cowl that resembled F-units--this was in a book on the PRR that I seem to have misplaced...anyone recall the type I am talking about?

 
Could it have been an E-2B, E-3b, or E-3C like the ones on this page...
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/electric7.html


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« Reply #25 on: Aug 28th, 2003, 12:41am »
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Well, we now have a photo of Reds and a photo of Greens.  Does anyone have a photo of Reading's RER "Blues?"

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« Reply #26 on: Aug 28th, 2003, 3:11pm »
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E-2B seems to be the one I was thinking of.  Thanks...

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« Reply #27 on: Aug 28th, 2003, 11:21pm »
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What do you think I like?      A more utilitarian looking GG-1.  
 

 
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« Reply #28 on: Aug 29th, 2003, 11:27am »
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[quote author=IrishChieftain link=board=Juice;num=1061339655;start=0#7 date=08/21/03 at 13:10:46]Here's a clear enough web shot of GG-1 #902 in Amtrak Phase I "bloody nose", with PC black bringing up the rear.  Note the blast of steam from the steam-heat generator being emitted from the bottom front...
 

 
 Also known as the "WC Fields" GG 1 because of the red nose!
 
 


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« Reply #29 on: Aug 29th, 2003, 12:36pm »
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Hi All,
 
This might be a better shot of the #902 GG-1. Enjoy.


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« Reply #30 on: Sep 4th, 2003, 3:18pm »
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here's something with way more power than a GG-1 but not faster,due to stability problems at high speed .Still,my fav electric is the big ugly GE E60CP ,followed closely by the GE E44 and the EMD AEM-7....

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« Reply #31 on: Sep 4th, 2003, 4:29pm »
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Hi,
 
You got that right. The GG-1 was rated  as a continuous 4620 hp, later upgraded to 5000 hp. with short term maximum of 10,000 hp. The E-60 is rated at 6000 hp continuous, with a maximum short term of 12,000 hp. The E-44 was rated at a continous 4000 hp with a short term maximum of 8,000 hp. Interestingly enough, the AEM-7 is rated at approximately 4000 hp continous and short term maximum of 7000 hp. The difference, of course is in the gearing. The AEM-7 being geared for the highest rate of speed, approximately 125 mph.  
 
As an aside, the boxy, but having their own quiet charm, E-60's are probably the best for freight hauling. The single ended E-60's are favored for such work with dedicated consist coal hauling trains out west. I would imagine as passenger E-60's are retired, they will be offered for use as freight haulers, with reduced gearing of course. Old passenger engines never die, they are relegated to hauling heavy freights, suitably regeared.  
 
Here is a photo of my favorite E-60, #951, the engineman is Lou Roger. A very nice comfort cab.


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« Reply #32 on: Sep 4th, 2003, 6:11pm »
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id love to see one of those monsters pull a freight.id imagine an E60,regeared for freight,could pull a coal train bout 3 qaurters of a mile long by itself.2 of'em workin as a team would yank a loaded 1 and a half mile long train wit ease.the AEM-7 is fast not only cause its geared for speed but its also lighter than the E60. an E60 tips da scales at about 385,000 bls, while the AEM-7,shorter,tips over at about 150,000 to 250,000....somewhere in that range.i wouldnt mind seeing 3 AEM-7 geared,pullin a nice mile long mixed freight train at 50mph.the GG-1s look good pullin freights too....although they are just out dated! the E44 is simply beautiful.i wish electric lines were all over the US mainlines.they'd be at home pullin freights all day long.also one rare thing the E60 gots that no other locomotive has is a set of horns known as the Nathan PO1235.they sound almost like a pair of P5s,only brassier.the AEM-7 uses Airchime K5LAs and the E44 uses Leslie S-3Ls.the GG-1 uses Leslie S-25 "Honkers"

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« Reply #33 on: Sep 4th, 2003, 7:30pm »
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Hi CSX,
 
To all that all one can say is "Amen".


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« Reply #34 on: Sep 5th, 2003, 10:44am »
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Amen to that brotha......i love electrics!!Although Diesels still got a place in my heart,they'll never place Electrics.i think Amtrak should keep the E60 or CSX or Norfolk Southern should by them and use'in for high speed freight service thru the NEC. can u imagine a big E60 in CSX paint or wearin da black and white prance'in horse of Norfolk Southern!? that'll be grand!!!

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« Reply #35 on: Oct 12th, 2003, 6:50am »
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I'm kinda surprised no one mentioned the "Little Joes" of the CSS&SB. These freight motors in their South Shore orange livery were real beauties. I don't have a photo of one of them but perhaps someone who does will post it to this site.

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« Reply #36 on: Oct 12th, 2003, 10:23am »
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Mark -
 
Now that you mention it, I'm kinda surprised, too. The spectacular success and longevity of the GG-1 has crowded out this magnificent contender, but I've always been in awe of the Little Joe's sheer brute size and sleek design.
 
We visited the ex-South Shore beauty at North East two weeks ago. According to one of the volunteer museum directors, it had quite a time getting there. When it was handed off to Conrail en route, they refused to handle it, whereupon it sat idle in the yard for several months. Eventually, a local newspaper complained that this "god-awful-orange monstrosity" was an eyesore, and Conrail was embarrassed into delivering it.
 
Well, a lot of people thought the then-new Statue of Liberty was a "god-awful monstrosity," too...
 
Here's a link to a photo of an identical unit:
http://www.morscher.com/rr/1989/19890710_02.jpg
 
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« Reply #37 on: Oct 12th, 2003, 11:42am »
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Hi All,
 
If you are going to wander from the PRR and Amtrak. why not go to the New Haven and their famous and very attractive EP series of double ended electrics? Some of the later ones, with the "Bulldog" noses are really nice.


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Here is a shot of #802 at the B&O RR Museum.  This was taken on Jan. 8, 1984.  I never got to see them in operation, but always liked the way they look.  
Don't forget, the B&O RR Museum still needs your help.  
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« Reply #39 on: Oct 14th, 2003, 2:04am »
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Thanks for the photos of the South Shore Little Joes. The 803 looks really great in her shining paint but the 802 looks mighty forlorn and neglected.
 
The Virginian also had some classy motors that I'm surprised no one has mentioned yet. I don't know their specs but wouldn't be surprised if they weren't the all time most powerful electrics considering they were designed to haul long coal trains over some pretty rugged gradients. I haven't seen a picture of these brutes in years but I remember their color scheme was tasteful but subdued. I could easily be wrong but seem to remember they were painted a dark green with maybe gold lettering. Someone correct me if those are not the right colors.  
 
Whatever their color, in my opinion the Virginian motors looked better than the black and white GG-1's  of the Penn Central. The GG-1's were strikingly beautiful in Pennsy paint schemes but the PC really screwed their looks up when they repaintd them. That's just my personal opinion and I apologize if I've offended any diehard GG-1 fans.


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