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Knox and Kane RR: Scrapped!
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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #80 on: Feb 7th, 2008, 4:41pm »
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Yup I remember you.  I've been going to ask John how the progress is coming for the 2008 excursions, but he must be working the Kane area pretty hard.  Saw him on the front end loader around the round house in Marienville yesterday briefly, but totally slipped my mind.  Stay tuned.

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #81 on: Feb 7th, 2008, 8:08pm »
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I would have rather someone save the old NYC line to Shippensburg than worry about the K&K. The customer could have been shipped and it's a nicer ride.

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #82 on: Feb 8th, 2008, 6:15pm »
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on Feb 7th, 2008, 8:08pm, jeo324 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I would have rather someone save the old NYC line to Shippensburg than worry about the K&K. The customer could have been shipped and it's a nicer ride.

 
   Is anyone else scratching your head?  How does the KKRR and Shippensburg even relate


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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #83 on: Feb 8th, 2008, 7:20pm »
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I have been wondering the same thing!!
 
If this guy means shippenville he hasnt been around that line is very dead! bridges are gone and everything.
 
 
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« Reply #84 on: Feb 8th, 2008, 8:02pm »
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My mistake.  It was Shippenville and yes I know the bridges are gone. Still p#$#es me off because of how scenic the old NYC line use to be. K&K is in horrible shape and will not be back. The dream is dead.

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« Reply #85 on: Feb 8th, 2008, 8:36pm »
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you need to look at it this way. the K&K is there to be replaced! the old nyc has been gone for a while and half of it is now a bike trail. It might not have been as scenic but there are still rails down some very shaky ones but they are there just the same.

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« Reply #86 on: Mar 17th, 2008, 5:16pm »
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http://www.thecourierexpress.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=19398574&BRD=2758&PAG=461&dept_id=572984&rfi=6

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #87 on: Mar 18th, 2008, 10:02pm »
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Knox & Kane Enginehouse Perishes in Fire    
 
From the Bradford, PA Era newspaper  
 
Arson fire in Kane causes $1 million in damage, severely burns two locomotives once used for Kinzua Bridge State Park tourist trips  
 
By ADAM VOSLER  
Era Reporter  
 
An arson fire early Sunday at a Biddle Street building in Kane caused $1 million in damage and severely burned two locomotives that were once used for Kinzua Bridge State Park tourist trips.  
 
Investigators found that someone forcibly entered a warehouse about 2:15 a.m. and set it on fire, according to a press release issued by Kane-based state police.  
 
No injuries were reported, officials said.  
 
The building contained two steam locomotives owned by B. Sloan Cornell of Marienville ��” one a diesel locomotive and the other a luxury dining car built in the 1890s and restored in the 1930s, police said. The structure, whose owner was not immediately clear, also held numerous locomotive parts and railroad-related equipment.  
 
The metal structure was a one-story, 44 foot-by-160 foot railroad car storage building, police said. It suffered heavy damage, as did the two trains, according to Kane Volunteer Fire Department Chief Art Brechtel. He was unsure if the trains were a total loss.  
 
Upon arrival, fire crews found heavy smoke and flames coming from the warehouse, Brechtel accounted.  
 
“Crews did a good job on the initial knockdown of the fire,” he said.  
 
Firefighters came back to the scene at 9:57 a.m. when the fire rekindled, though Brechtel called it nothing serious.  
 
Mount Jewett, Highland Township, Sheffield, Ludlow, Kane, Hamlin Township, Wilcox and Ridgway volunteer firefighters all responded to the scene. Cpl. Thomas E. Josephson, a state police fire marshal, worked with Kane Volunteer Fire Department and Kane Borough Police in the investigation. A police dog even joined the response.  
 
Kane Borough Police will continue the investigation.  
 
The affected trains once provided tourists with a trip from Marienville, with a stop in Kane to pick up passengers, to Kinzua Bridge and through nearby forestland. After 17 years, Knox & Kane Railroad, also owned by Cornell, stopped offering scenic train rides to the park due to a lack of interest following the Kinzua Bridge’s fall.  
 
Kinzua Bridge, located in Mount Jewett, was hammered by a tornado July 21, 2003, resulting in the loss of 11 support towers. The internationally recognized viaduct was constructed in 1882, “the longest and highest railroad bridge in the world” upon its completion, according to www.kinzuabridge.com.  
 
The potential loss of the trains would be another blow to ongoing Kinzua Bridge State Park restoration processes, according to Mary Ann Burggraf, executive director of the Kinzua Bridge Foundation.  
 
“Any negative event that takes place is a detriment to the park ... whether its the development (efforts) or anything (else),” she said.  
 
It is unclear if the trains were going to be used at the park again. However, talk of running the train from Kane to Mount Jewett had come up recently.  
 
“We’re in support of it,” Burggraf said.  
 
John Hafer, who takes care of the trains for Cornell, his grandfather, confirmed the idea had been contemplated, though Sunday’s fire has brought any action to a standstill.  
 
“A lot of things changed after this morning,” he said.  
 
A message left seeking comment from Bill Kilmer and Debbie Lunden, who are both involved with the Kinzua Bridge Foundation, were not immediately returned Sunday night. Meanwhile, an e-mail seeking comment from Allegheny National Forest Vacation Bureau Executive Director Linda Devlin also wasn’t immediately returned.  


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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #88 on: Mar 23rd, 2008, 8:15pm »
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I went up to Cook forest to camp and decided to go up to Marienville. Quite a sad site. I didn't even know they had locos in Kane due the tracks abandon at rout 66 I belevie? I took some photos for you guys.  
 














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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #89 on: Apr 1st, 2008, 7:42pm »
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Interesting reading:
 
http://rypn.sunserver.com/forum/viewtopic.php?start=0&t=25076&topic_view=flat
 
Perhaps they just like to get an early start on April 1  


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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #90 on: Apr 9th, 2008, 4:29pm »
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Thanks for the pics!!!

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #91 on: Apr 9th, 2008, 6:30pm »
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So is there any chance that the Knox and Kane RR will ever run excursions again?

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« Reply #92 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 8:59pm »
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If theres a will theres a way.

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #93 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 9:19pm »
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Wait, what's this about the 142? Is it going to leave Phillipsburg? I'd hate to think of the Bel-Del becoming diesel only, or quitting tourist service altogether.

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« Reply #94 on: Apr 30th, 2008, 9:26pm »
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rwk... the RyPN thing was an April Fool's Joke. Well, one of many on that website...
 
Hope all goes well for the railroad. At least the passenger cars could be used... could they?
 
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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #95 on: May 3rd, 2008, 10:19pm »
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Their engines burned in a fire, last week of April i saw someone cutting up the MOW equipment in marienville yard and tearing out the turntable.
 
I think it's pretty much done unless the almighty himself decides he wants to restore it.


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« Reply #96 on: Jun 2nd, 2008, 11:04am »
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The Kane enginehouse has been boarded up with the engines still inside.
 
Vandals have now damaged the Kane station.


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« Reply #97 on: Jun 2nd, 2008, 8:26pm »
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It appears a K&K coach has migrated to the Everett Railroad's engine house.

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« Reply #98 on: Jun 12th, 2008, 1:05pm »
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So sad to see the the K&K is souch pour condition. Ever since the viaduct collapticed nothing is going right. Why are people vandalizing all the equment? Does anyone know what is going to happen to the two steam engines?

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Re: Knox and Kane RR: Steam excursions may resume in 2008
 
« Reply #99 on: Jun 16th, 2008, 11:24am »
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on Jun 2nd, 2008, 8:26pm, PVRX1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
It appears a K&K coach has migrated to the Everett Railroad's engine house.

 
The Everett bought 2 K&K passenger cars about 2 years ago.


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