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GTL - The "All In The Family" Edition
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« on: Jan 13th, 2016, 10:52am »
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Wow, last post I could find here on this forum was 2010, so let's try to wake things up and GTL!
 
Let's start off with my favorite Family Lines locomotive, the BQ23-7!


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« Reply #1 on: Jan 13th, 2016, 10:25pm »
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Hmmm.......street trackage leads me to think this is Lafayette, Indiana. I like the "All in the Family" label. No reason to stifle ourselves here!  
 
Those BQ23-7 units were certainly unique.
 
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« Reply #2 on: Jan 14th, 2016, 11:07am »
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Correct you are sir! This is on the old Monon in Lafayette IN, circa 1987, photo by J. Gilbert via railpictures.net
 
The first time I encountered the Family Lines was on a family trip (how appropriate!) to Orlando, and an in article on how to kitbash one of these unique engines in a issue of Model Railroader, long before Bahmann put one out. The first time I saw a real live one though, was at Conrail's ex-LV Oak Island Yard, where it had been de-rated to a slug.


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« Reply #3 on: Apr 13th, 2016, 4:34pm »
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If you're playing the Chessie GTL as well as this one, you'll find both of these places named for the same Revolutionary War General!
 
This Tar Heel location is also home to a lake featured in such Hollywood blockbusters as 'The Last Of The Mohicans" and "The Hunt For Red October".
 
This current day crossing of NS (upstairs, from where the photo was taken) and CSX (downstairs, where this view looks) is one the edge of the flatlands leading up to the Great Smoky Mountains, and a lot of coal once ran south down the Family Lines-predecessor in question.


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« Reply #4 on: Apr 14th, 2016, 2:23pm »
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Marion NC, looking north.  Nope, never been there, but by the hint, the only real possibility.  A look at google maps "earth" aerial view fits perfectly with the photo considering a fair amount of telephoto.  
 
The Lake is Lake James, on a tributary of the Catawba River.


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« Reply #5 on: Apr 14th, 2016, 2:58pm »
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LWO - George - Lodge Members -  
 
Have a heart here? Better to define what the heritage lines involved, and not the generic "NS" and "CSX"? That is, easier  
to think in terms of SOU, ACL, SAL, L&N, et. al? In the one hint, wonder if refers to old CC&O. BTW. If one wishes to be  
archaic, much favor in reference to SOU as "R&D" (Richmond & Danville), as applies to some track segments. (It was  
nevah a "Civil War", too! Old SOU hands were still trying to collect war claims!) <G>)
 
For instance, in an East - Central States reference, your writer prefers use of "Erie" and "Lackawanna". But, not the later  
"E-L" acronym. N.B. Phoebe Snow had such a fright. Whatever the Road Of Anthracite? However, On a journey she must  
go. Whatever the Train to Buffalo?

 
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George is correct, this is Marion, NC on the old Clinchfield/CC&O.....
 
You are right too, Vern ESPECIALLY when it comes to such a cluster-cluck of railroads ie; The Family Lines.......But you guys are smart cookies and figured it right off....


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« Reply #7 on: Apr 15th, 2016, 12:37am »
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OK:  It took me longer to find the lake name than the crossing location.  The lake is Lake James, and finding the blob of water on google maps did not give me the name of the lake.  The movie references did nothing for me.  
 
The Clinchfield history is fairly straight forward.  That of the Southern Railway side is anything but.  I knew the Western North Carolina Railroad, but dates of event not so.  Parts quoted are from historync.org:  Other historical information from ncpedia.org
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An act to incorporate the Western North Carolina Railroad Company was ratified by the General Assembly February 15, 1855. The railroad opened Fall 1858 with 84-mile line from Salisbury to within four miles of Morganton.

The War Between the States intervened, followed by Reconstruction.  According to another site, construction appears to have recommenced in 1868 with the issuance of 6.4 million dollars’ worth of bonds, but the work was caught up in of the financial manipulations of the reconstruction era, this one called the Littlefield Scandal in which Littlefield and cohorts sold a bunch of worthless securities and disappeared.  Apparently one of many events perpetrated by the crowd of immoral opportunists called Carpetbaggers and Scalawags.  The state then bought the railroad for $665,000 and recommenced construction.  
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The first train arrived in Marion in 1870 and Old Fort in 1873.
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On Oct. 2, 1880, the Western North Carolina Railroad was completed into Asheville. On April 5, 1882, the line was completed to Paint Rock.

The line became part of the Southern Railway System in 1896.


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« Reply #8 on: Apr 17th, 2016, 11:11am »
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George - Lodge Members -
 
Do recall, in early 1960s, your writer worked for SOUTHERN at a desk in its Central Command based in Washington, DC...
In the time your writer there, perceptions the story was they never saw a memo about the cessation of Lincoln's War Of  
Northern Aggression...   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_Railway_%28U.S.%29
 
At the time, we had a SRS System which the much earlier work of various high finance types, possibly best and brightest  
of the era. So that, from what we saw with appearances of the Passenger Trains? Should one have looked at the identification,  
on the letterboards and near the nearest door, some small lettering of which Carrier actually controlled the equipment.
 
Many all became familiar with meanings of SOU, AGS, NO&NE, CNO&TP, GS&F, Et. Al. It a high finance mess of leased  
lines, and so on. Oh, well. On the Dining Cars, one could always get grits with the plate!
 
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Marion, NC still has links to its past. The Family Lines is represented by a SCL caboose, #0793. If you go looking for it you will want to go to the "Southern" side of town because it is by the depot there.
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