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Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:12am
Well, after looking at the latest issue of the *Diamond" (published by the EL Historical Society) and being in the same area for the NY&GL, I though I would trace the Newark Branch.
 
Once again, the sources that were very helpful is the Diamond, SPV and DeLorme maps as well as "Railroad Stations of Northern NJ" by Robert W. Millmore.
 
Let's start from XW tower in Paterson and work towards Newark.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:14am
I was told at one time these tracks were street-level. Anyone know when this bridge was put in?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:16am
I couldn't get back there through the gates  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:18am
Fences here too  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:19am
Just as I was ready to climb this hill. Not sure how close I would have been but I'm glad I didn't make it.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:21am
Not sure where they were going  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:23am
Is there a tower still there  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:32am
I didn't stop at Paterson Junction as I was in a hurry. Anything to see there?
 
Anyway, the next stop is the Athenia station in Clifton.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:34am
I don't believe it is currently occupied.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:40am
Members from the Sussex Conty RR club discuss the Newark Branch. According to my friend Bob, this station was used as a United States government quarantine station.
 
Here's a link you will be interested in reading:
 
http://www.cliftonhistory.org/july_1902.html
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:42am
Looking towards Paterson Jct.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:47am
Looking towards the next stop; Allwood Station
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:49am
Allwood Station now being used by VFW.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:52am
The first stop in Clifton and is still in nice shape
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:53am
Looking towards Nutley
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 9:58am
Our first stop in Nutley is Franklin Avenue
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:03am
Here's where I get confused. I have been told by one resident that this building had nothing to do with the Railroad whatsoever and that the station stood about 100 yards further up. Another resident says this building is not the orginal station but was used by the RR pror to becoming a medical office.  
 
Robert Millmore's book shows what the station looked like in the 70s which is nothing like the picture I'm showing.
 
 
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:04am
Just another shot of the station ?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:08am
Looking towards Alwood. Unfortunately I see more people using the tracks as a way of getting from Roche to Franklin Avenue  
 
Did Hoffman LaRoche ever use the Erie?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:10am
My friends discussing where the station might have been. One person who resided there say this was where the original station was.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:12am
Maybe there still is a need for commuter service
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:13am
The original location?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:15am
Looking towards our next stop which was called Nutley or Central Nutley
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:17am
Heading towards central Nutley
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:20am
Unfortunately nothing remains in this area other than the signals and a few ties off to the side of the track
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:23am
Looking towards Walnut Street and at the location of where the station would have been.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:33am
Looking towards Franklin Avenue. Tracks are very rusty and haven't looked like a train has been here in a long time.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:34am
Station removed sometime in the 80s
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:39am
I believe the station was here.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:40am
A siding to the left as we look towards Central Nutley
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:42am
Looking towards Belleville and Newark
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:45am
I sometimes wonder if the railroad did ever pass here as longtime residents seemed to have forgotten. I had asked more than several residents who scratched their head when I asked for directions. The 80s weren't that long ago.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:47am
Signal stand  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:49am
Next down the line is Belleville station now being used as an Italian restaurant
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:51am
As I head closer to Newark, the tracks look less used.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 10:53am
Looking back towards Walnut Street Nutley
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:36pm
I didn't see anythng on Cleveland Street which is supposed to be the next stop. I did, however, see an entrance to a platform on Mill Street  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:37pm
Going to the platform
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:40pm
Looking towards Newark. The bridge in the background is the NY&GL crossing at Broadway in Newark. The North Newark station is close to here.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:41pm
A close look at the NY&GL as it will cross the Passaic River and head to West Arlington.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:46pm
The next station and last one in Newark (heading to Paterson) would be Woodside Station whichis located on the north side of Grafton Avenue. Not sure when it was removed.
 
You are looking towards Mill street.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:47pm
Looking towards what would be the next station Riverside.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:50pm
Another shot looking towards Riverside.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:52pm
While they are fixing up there area, I still wouldn't wander around too much
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 12:56pm
An even more dangerous area was the next stop on the branch which was named Ricerside. It is located on Chester Avenue. The site is under part of what is McCarter Highway or Route 21.
 
At first I thought I had found a station but after further review  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:01pm
Looking towards 4th Avenue where the EL had a depot.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:04pm
An approximate location of where the station might have been. Any additional information would be greatly appreciated.
 
You are looking towards the direction of where I beleive the station was located. The McCarter Highway is just ahead.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:07pm
People I asked in the area never knew of a station being here and NS does run here on an as needed basis I was told to service a local company.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:09pm
Any information on where the station was located would be appreciated
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:12pm
Okay, I'm lost and Harold tells me I'm where I want to be. He looks at some of the pictures I have of the area, courtesy of the "Diamond" and everything is looking good again.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:15pm
Hard to believe this area had a depot
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:17pm
On page 5 of the Diamond you can see this building has not changed much at all.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 1:19pm
Tracks can still be found here if you look around. I believe that no serivce comes down this far any longer. The tracks further up from here are almost gone.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 2:44pm
Just a little down the road there's a yard belonging to some company where you can see the remains of many tracks one of which leads to the bridge
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 2:47pm
I don't know what if this place ha rail service or was this just an extension of the 4th street depot. You can see tracks pertty much everywhere here.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 2:49pm
This bridge has been up as far as I can remember when my parents took us to Two Guys.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 2:52pm
Was this the heaviest bridge that crossed the Passaic? When was it last down?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 2:54pm
I wonder if there will ever be service here again.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:01pm
The other side of the bridge in Harrison. Not too far from the old Two Guys department store.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:18pm
Who were some of the customers in this area?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:25pm
Looking towards Kearny
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:37pm
I wonder just how busy this line was between freight and passenger service.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:39pm
To Kearny Station
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:44pm
There was a station in Kearny and the book mentions somewhere between Passaic and Kearny Avenues which is where I was. I want to say there were stairs to this station but am I in the right place?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:45pm
Where the station might have been looking towards Newark.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:48pm
The first regular stop from either Hoboken or JC was Davis Avenue. Unfortunately, nothing remains.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:50pm
On Davis avenue.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:52pm
These tracks look like they have been out for years. When was the last time a train did operate in this area?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:53pm
Looking towards JC and Hoboken
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 3:59pm
Once again my camera has made someone very curious. I met Chester, a WWII veteran doesn't remember when trains ran here but when he hits the lottery he intends on purchasing this land and opening up a canal. I couldn't convince him to operate a short line RR or Trolley  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 6th, 2006, 4:00pm
Posted by: ErieAtlantic7597 Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 3:14pm

 
   Holy mackeral,
 
   What terrific and sort of sad pictures. As I said in the NY&GL thread, my Grand Father took the Newark branch to Bellville from Paterson every day. Your photos sparked my memory. He would go to and reboard the train to come home at Mill St station. I remember clearly him speaking of that station. He would walk to the shop that he worked in. I don't remember what street that was on though.
 
   Thanks for the great photos.
 
   Bruce
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 4:45pm
Bruce,
 
I'm so glad you and others enjoy this. I love exploring these lines. I wish I could go back and see these trains in those busy days  
Posted by: el3681 Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 6:45pm
The picture of your friends sitting down IS the location of the Erie/ EL station...
I don't remember when it was knocked down BUT I was inside the building in the early 1970s, there was a freight agent assigned there at that time, he gave me a copy of a 1972 "Official Guide" ...as for specific dates, I don't have them..sorry
Posted by: BC_and_A_railway Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 6:55pm
Woah, Cool shots as always!
Auctaully most of that line doesn't look that bad..... I've seen worse still in use!  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 9:38pm
on Apr 7th, 2006, 6:45pm, el3681 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The picture of your friends sitting down IS the location of the Erie/ EL station...
I don't remember when it was knocked down BUT I was inside the building in the early 1970s, there was a freight agent assigned there at that time, he gave me a copy of a 1972 "Official Guide" ...as for specific dates, I don't have them..sorry

 
 
Thanks so much for clarifying this for me. I was still scratching my head as to where it could be. What about the medical building? Was this part of the Erie?
 
Thanks again.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 7th, 2006, 9:42pm
on Apr 7th, 2006, 6:55pm, BC_and_A_railway wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Woah, Cool shots as always!
Auctaully most of that line doesn't look that bad..... I've seen worse still in use!  

 
Thanks BC&A.
 
I still have more to finish on the NY&GL. I would like to start the Orange Branch and Caldwell Branches. Away we go.
Posted by: EL_nino Posted on: Apr 16th, 2006, 10:38am
on Apr 6th, 2006, 9:32am, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I didn't stop at Paterson Junction as I was in a hurry. Anything to see there?

 
Ken, Paterson Jct is a very interesting spot. I moved out of Clifton nearly 13 years ago but it probably hasn't changed much at the Jct.  
 
Before the merger and re-alignment, the Newark branch ran underneath Lackawanna's Booton Line and down what is now Kuller Road. If you turn down Kuller from Paulison Ave you'll pass the concrete bridge on your left that the branch once ran under before it was tied into the Lackawanna above.....thought you'd like to know....
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 16th, 2006, 6:39pm
on Apr 16th, 2006, 10:38am, EL_nino wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Ken, Paterson Jct is a very interesting spot. I moved out of Clifton nearly 13 years ago but it probably hasn't changed much at the Jct.  
 
Before the merger and re-alignment, the Newark branch ran underneath Lackawanna's Booton Line and down what is now Kuller Road. If you turn down Kuller from Paulison Ave you'll pass the concrete bridge on your left that the branch once ran under before it was tied into the Lackawanna above.....thought you'd like to know....

 
Thanks for the information. I always appreciate it.
Posted by: Andy_S Posted on: May 12th, 2006, 10:14am
on Apr 6th, 2006, 2:44pm, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Just a little down the road there's a yard belonging to some company where you can see the remains of many tracks one of which leads to the bridge

 
 
Interesting photo angle.  It reminds me of several RR bridges no longer in use over the Cuyahoga River in Cleveland.  Anyway, regarding the Newark Branch, I commuted to Rutgers Newark in the fall of 1966, and the bus would be delayed by passenger traffic on the way.  I used to go to Muscara Music in Belleville, and would also be greeted by passenger traffic and occasional freight.  I never minded being stopped at grade for a train!
Posted by: NJ Railfan Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 11:01am
very nice pictures.  
 
I also have a few from the Newark Branch, located here...
 
http://high-iron-photograph.rrpicturearchives.net/archivethumbs.aspx?id=10430
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jun 28th, 2006, 12:48pm
Hey. I know that area  
 
Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: JohnFPorcaro Posted on: Dec 17th, 2006, 4:07pm
on Apr 6th, 2006, 12:56pm, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
An even more dangerous area was the next stop on the branch which was named Ricerside. It is located on Chester Avenue. The site is under part of what is McCarter Highway or Route 21.
 
At first I thought I had found a station but after further review  

 
Ken,
was this building an old railroad station?
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Dec 17th, 2006, 5:37pm
on Dec 17th, 2006, 4:07pm, JohnFPorcaro wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Ken,
was this building an old railroad station?

 
 
John. after looking at the book "The Next Station Will Be" I can say no. I don't know when the station was removed.
Posted by: Erie13 Posted on: Dec 26th, 2006, 6:15pm
Can u tell me how much of the branch gets used by NS and where it starts and and ends Ken? I'm new here and liked the pics. How often does the line get used if at al? Josh
Posted by: JohnFPorcaro Posted on: Jan 2nd, 2007, 6:57pm
on Dec 26th, 2006, 6:15pm, Erie13 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Can u tell me how much of the branch gets used by NS and where it starts and and ends Ken? I'm new here and liked the pics. How often does the line get used if at al? Josh

 
So far since I have been tracking this, W.A.S. at Newark has had 3 cars delivered since August.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 3rd, 2007, 1:00pm
on Dec 26th, 2006, 6:15pm, Erie13 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Can u tell me how much of the branch gets used by NS and where it starts and and ends Ken? I'm new here and liked the pics. How often does the line get used if at al? Josh

 
 
Josh,
 
Sorry for the late reply.
 
John provided the answer about NS activity so I'll reply about the beginning and end terminus.  
 
From the book I recommend this book. Nice color photos and plenty of them:
 
 
The Newark Branch diverted from the Greenwood Lake/Boonton Line shortly west of the Hackensack river swingbridge. The Branch extended southwest to Kearney-Harrison border and offered shelters on both communities. It then crossed the NX bascule bridge over the Passaic River north to reach the ancient Fourth Avenue station on Newark's North Ward. It then followed the Passaic River northward through Belleville, Nutley, Clifton and Paterson where trains either terminated at the lower level of the city's passenger station or switched to the upper level, continuing along the main line another 7.4 miles to Waldwick. Some runs required passengers to change to or from the main line trains.
 
There's even a timetable that shows the Newark Branch originating in Hoboken to Paterson Junction.
Posted by: krapug1 Posted on: Jan 10th, 2007, 2:09pm

Great pictures of this almost forgotten branch.
 
Just to answer a few questions.
 
Kearny Station, you were in the right spot, in fact there still are some of the stairs visible.  Facing Harrison/East Newark, stand on the west side of the  
bridge over the tracks and on the Kearny side and you will see the stairs that took you down to the station, some of the platform is still visible.
 
Commuter service ended with the E-L's Commuter Service "rationilzation" program in October of '66. Passenger service at this point was 3 peak hour trains in each direction, Nutley, Bellville, Kearny, and Harrison did protest, and a plan was made to still run a single commter round trip, but.......
The E-L claimed that the Newark Branch would be used as a "freight thruway", and thus "improve" service on the surviving commuter lines.
 
The last freight customer on the East Side of the branch ended in the fall of 2001, when NJT ended passenger service on the lower Boonton Line, and took the DB bridge OOS, thus leaving this branch fragment severed.
 
The east side of this branch is also severed where the Bergen Avenue extension crosses it in Kearny.
 
NX draw last hosted a freight train during the winter of '77-'78.
I lived in Kearny, and used to take the then Route 41 Bus to school, and unkown to me that winter morning watching a short freight cross NX,  
it was one (if not the one) of the last trains to use the bridge.  
As the winter of '78 turned to spring, NX draw became a popular hangout, and most of the mechanical equipment was destroyed. The movie Annie used NX draw for a scene, and the bridge remained in the open position during this.  With NX going on 30 years of being OOS could the counter weights fail and it slam shut?
 
Ken    
 
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 10th, 2007, 3:03pm
krapug1,
 
Thanks for the info. I missed it. I guess I was on the wrong side of the bridge. I will have to back to that spot again sometime soon. How can you get to the bottom to get to where the station once was?
Posted by: krapug1 Posted on: Jan 11th, 2007, 11:54am

In one of your photos you actually see part of the old platform.
 
Going west from Kearny Avenue, the next street to cross the ROW crosses at grade, you can easily walk the ROW to the Kearny Station site.
 
As you noted, there is nothing left at the site of the Davis Avenue Station
in Harrison.  
 
The stairs climb almost to the top, in the early 70's the bridge the carries Kearny Avenue over the ROW was rebuilt, and the very top of the stairs was removed.  
 
A memory I have from the time passenger service ended (I was a VERY young railfan then), was about a month after the last commuter train I was waiting with my Father to pick up our order of Fish n Chips from Thompsons (Kearny was famous for it's "chippers" as they were called), and owner
was complaining that since the commuter trains stopped running his business was off since many people coming off the trains would stop in and place orders.  So even back then people were getting take out.    
 
Ken
 
......and for the record, at least 2 of Kearny's "chippers" are still around,
Argyle, and Thistle's
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 11th, 2007, 4:34pm
on Jan 11th, 2007, 11:54am, krapug1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

In one of your photos you actually see part of the old platform.
 
Going west from Kearny Avenue, the next street to cross the ROW crosses at grade, you can easily walk the ROW to the Kearny Station site.
 
As you noted, there is nothing left at the site of the Davis Avenue Station
in Harrison.  
 
The stairs climb almost to the top, in the early 70's the bridge the carries Kearny Avenue over the ROW was rebuilt, and the very top of the stairs was removed.  
 
A memory I have from the time passenger service ended (I was a VERY young railfan then), was about a month after the last commuter train I was waiting with my Father to pick up our order of Fish n Chips from Thompsons (Kearny was famous for it's "chippers" as they were called), and owner
was complaining that since the commuter trains stopped running his business was off since many people coming off the trains would stop in and place orders.  So even back then people were getting take out.    
 
Ken
 
......and for the record, at least 2 of Kearny's "chippers" are still around,
Argyle, and Thistle's

 
 
Again - Thanks for the info. We Spring arrives, I will be heading out there to go back there and try some of those chippers too.
 
I heard there was still a soda fountain store in Harrison. Is it still there? I forget the name but it's one of those old places where "soda jerk" worked out of.
 
Thanks
Posted by: krapug1 Posted on: Jan 15th, 2007, 2:43pm

Try this link from a Kearny HS Alumni site
 
It shows some pics of the Newark branch including a rare shot of NX draw in the closed position, and a timetable from 1965.
 
 http://kearnyalumni.com/nwkbranch.html
 
Ken
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 15th, 2007, 3:04pm
on Jan 15th, 2007, 2:43pm, krapug1 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Try this link from a Kearny HS Alumni site
 
It shows some pics of the Newark branch including a rare shot of NX draw in the closed position, and a timetable from 1965.
 
 http://kearnyalumni.com/nwkbranch.html
 
Ken

 
 
Great link. Thanks for sharing.
Posted by: Mel_Sylvester Posted on: Jan 17th, 2007, 4:13pm
The track that cut off the main line paralleled the river. The first company serviced was Harris Steel. The building is still there. The track continued along to Congolium Nairn. On the Newark side of the river there was a freight house to the south.  The passanger station was right after the curve to the north. My dad was a perishable inspector at that location when refer cars were unloaded. I'm more familiar with the Kearny portion of the branch.
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 17th, 2007, 5:30pm
on Jan 17th, 2007, 4:13pm, Mel_Sylvester wrote:       (Click here for original message)
The track that cut off the main line paralleled the river. The first company serviced was Harris Steel. The building is still there. The track continued along to Congolium Nairn. On the Newark side of the river there was a freight house to the south.  The passanger station was right after the curve to the north. My dad was a perishable inspector at that location when refer cars were unloaded. I'm more familiar with the Kearny portion of the branch.

 
 
Thanks for the update. I can still see some of the buildings near where the 4th avenue station was. Some of the pictures I have from the book "The Next Station Will Be" are from 1910.
 
I must admit that I don't know the companies that were near or serviced by the EL but at least was able to follow it which is more than I can say about other lines
Posted by: bukie2k Posted on: Jan 22nd, 2007, 7:02pm
on Apr 6th, 2006, 3:44pm, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There was a station in Kearny and the book mentions somewhere between Passaic and Kearny Avenues which is where I was. I want to say there were stairs to this station but am I in the right place?

 
The station was located just west of Kearny Avenue. I recall there being stairs there when my dad would take me there on Saturday mornings when I was a kid to watch the trains go by. Sometimes we did our watching by the rails next to West Hudson Park. Those mornings were more than 30 years ago and they seem like yesterday.  
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Jan 23rd, 2007, 8:00am
on Jan 22nd, 2007, 7:02pm, bukie2k wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
The station was located just west of Kearny Avenue. I recall there being stairs there when my dad would take me there on Saturday mornings when I was a kid to watch the trains go by. Sometimes we did our watching by the rails next to West Hudson Park. Those mornings were more than 30 years ago and they seem like yesterday.  

 
 
Thanks for the info. I never did get to see any trains in that area of the Newark Branch. All the trains I saw were either in Belleville or Nutley. And yes, time does go by quickly
Posted by: Eddie M. Posted on: Apr 9th, 2007, 12:00pm
   Holy cow Ken!    
    Another nice pictorial.  For some strange reason, I think I remember NX bridge in the lowered position as a child.
    Who officially ownes NX ? Nolfolk Southern?  NJ DOT?  
    At least you got to see one train!  
   
Posted by: njvike Posted on: Apr 9th, 2007, 7:27pm
on Apr 9th, 2007, 12:00pm, Eddie M. wrote:       (Click here for original message)
   Holy cow Ken!    
    Another nice pictorial.  For some strange reason, I think I remember NX bridge in the lowered position as a child.
    Who officially ownes NX ? Nolfolk Southern?  NJ DOT?  
    At least you got to see one train!  
    
  

 
 
Eddie,
 
I never saw the bridge in the down position either. I believe NS still owns it but I'm not positive. I did see the NS signs following the line through Kearny.
Posted by: LVRR2095 Posted on: Jun 7th, 2011, 7:13pm
on Apr 6th, 2006, 10:23am, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Looking towards Walnut Street and at the location of where the station would have been.

The location where this picture was taken is at the junction of Whitford Ave. and Highfield lane and the station name was Nutley bearing in mind the original name of the town was Franklin, and this was in the Nutley Park section of Franklin. The station was never knownas Central Station that I know of, its other name was Stitts, for the Stitt's Mill located nearby. I've attached a picture of the depot building that was located here.
Posted by: manoferie Posted on: Sep 7th, 2012, 11:51pm
This is definitely not the station.  It was constructed on the station property during the late 1980s after the station was torn down after a suspicious fire.  the current bldg was never used by the railroad, and was purpose-built as professional offices.  Franklin Ave station was located on the same property approx 100 feet west of the current structure.  
 
on Apr 6th, 2006, 10:03am, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here's where I get confused. I have been told by one resident that this building had nothing to do with the Railroad whatsoever and that the station stood about 100 yards further up. Another resident says this building is not the orginal station but was used by the RR pror to becoming a medical office.  
 
Robert Millmore's book shows what the station looked like in the 70s which is nothing like the picture I'm showing.
 
 

Posted by: manoferie Posted on: Sep 7th, 2012, 11:53pm
correct.  the west end of the station was about 20 feet to the left of the folks pictured.  the team track switch was located about 100 feet to the right (timetable west).
Posted by: manoferie Posted on: Sep 8th, 2012, 12:05am
nothing of merit at Paterson Jct.  Originally the Newark Branch passed underneath the DLW Boonton Branch (traces of the bridge abutment can still be seen).  I believe there was a connecting track from the Erie into the DLW's paterson yd.  during EL days, as part of the Route 80 project, the Newark Branch was swung into the Main Line (former Boonton Branch) at Paterson Jct, and a new alignment was created that eventually rejoined the original Newark Branch west of Pat Jct at around Hazel St in CLifton, allowing EL Main Line trains access to the Erie Main at XW in Paterson, and on to Suffern and pts west.  During my youth, the double track main line (Boonton) singled up at Paterson Jct, into which the Newark Branch swung several hundred feet west.  The new main continued as single track to XW where double track resumed.  Recently, NJ Transit double-tracked the route from Pat Jct to XW, eliminating the single track bottleneck.  the actual junction is located at the point where the Garden State Parkway passes over the RR.  nothing remains of the former DLW paterson yard, and to the best of my knowledge, there are no traces of the former Nwk Br alignment between the underpass and the Hazel St Clifton area.
 
 
on Apr 6th, 2006, 9:32am, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I didn't stop at Paterson Junction as I was in a hurry. Anything to see there?
 
Anyway, the next stop is the Athenia station in Clifton.

Posted by: manoferie Posted on: Sep 8th, 2012, 12:11am
Nope - XW tower is long gone.  on the former Erie Main Line, HX (hackensack draw), BJ (Rutherford Jct), WJ (Ridgewood Jct), WC (Waldwick) remain.  can't remember whether PAterson lower level tower still exists.
 
on Apr 6th, 2006, 9:23am, njvike wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Is there a tower still there