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« on: Oct 7th, 2015, 9:13pm »
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I photographed this a couple miles north of 30th Street Station in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania while heading south.  It looks like this train has been sitting there since the 80s.


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« Reply #1 on: Oct 12th, 2015, 8:19pm »
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Car looks like it was in AMTRAK service before it was abandoned. Engine MIGHT have been (bloody nose, eh?) - an E8/E9 do you think? Awful blurry, can't see much, car MIGHT have been a Keystone car.

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« Reply #2 on: Oct 12th, 2015, 9:08pm »
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To me it looks like a good candidate for restoration.  Looks like it's been sitting there for a while.

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« Reply #3 on: Oct 13th, 2015, 10:54am »
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Doc5252 - Clyde - Lodge Members -
 
The very tired looking, apparently BUDD built venerable Car. The earliest KEYSTONE Train equipment had the obvious,  
much lower line of windows in the larger part of the seating area. That is, at each end of the Car, one needed to walk  
down (IIRC) two steps for access to seats. PENNA RR found riders did not favor it...
 
Can't recall particulars of AMTRAK use of KEYSTONE name, going forward from 1971...
 
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 14th, 2015, 9:59pm »
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The very tired looking, apparently BUDD built venerable Car. The earliest KEYSTONE Train equipment had the obvious,  
much lower line of windows in the larger part of the seating area. That is, at each end of the Car, one needed to walk  
down (IIRC) two steps for access to seats. PENNA RR found riders did not favor it...
 
Can't recall particulars of AMTRAK use of KEYSTONE name, going forward from 1971...
 
............................Vern............................

 
Darn - you are right, Vern. NOT a Keystone car (thinking of the special Keystone set AMTRAK took over from Pennsy). Didn't they use a ramp instead of steps for the level change? But does look like a Budd car. Maybe - I THINK I see a corrugated roof, diagnostic for Budd equipment.


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« Reply #5 on: Oct 15th, 2015, 7:37am »
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Clyde - Lodge Members -
 
SIGH! Old memories are often not all that reliable. For fact, can't recall whether the KEYSTONE Cars used a ramp or steps  
at each end to get to/ from the seating. Either could have been problematic if surfaces became wet.
 
The KEYSTONE Train (and seems to me there was only one) indeed the 'Last Stand' for PENNA RR thinking on how to do  
higher speed NEC Rail. The somewhat later METROLINER project was US DOT, FED thinking and design all the way...
 
In the instant Photo, the aging Car in view. IMHO, it a BUDD. Used to be your writer could look at the window arrangement,  
and know the Car type. With this one, Photo not of such quality so to easily figure type and floor plan...
 
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« Reply #6 on: Jun 20th, 2016, 7:47pm »
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I just came upon this thread. I believe what you see is the equipment and building that is owned by Juniata Terminal. Not sure if that is the correct name for this outfit. They restored 2 E8s in PRR livery that had been used on various fan trips.

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« Reply #7 on: Jun 20th, 2016, 9:04pm »
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The photo was taken in late November of 2014 about 10 miles north of Philadelphia, PA on the Northeast Corridor.  It can't be the PRR E8s, because I think I saw them completed at Streamliners at Spencer, earlier that year in NC.

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« Reply #8 on: Jun 21st, 2016, 1:14am »
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That would be be ex-Amtrak E9 401, exx-B&O E9 36/1455 at Bennett Levin's Juniata Terminal. I think it was moved there in 2002. I have read that it is a parts source for their PRR E8's. It was built in May of '55 with builder #20378 as B&O 36 and retired by Amtrak in 1981. I believe it is now known as JTFS 36.


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« Reply #9 on: Jun 21st, 2016, 8:49pm »
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As far as I know, that E, about 2 passenger cars, and at least 1 caboose are still sitting there. If you look on Bing maps, you can see them. The building is a bit west (rr south) of Frankford Jct .The building is between B and G street overpasses on the south side of the tracks. You will have to rotate the bird's eye view 180 degrees so that you are looking south.

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