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GE/EMD Loco Info/Specs Here For The Asking.
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GE/EMD Loco Info/Specs Here For The Asking.
 
« on: Oct 4th, 2003, 8:42pm »
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I Have Serivce And Operator's Manuals For:
 
EMD SD 90MAC PHASE II
EMD SD 70MAC  
EMD SD 70 Series (DC)
 
And I Have Only Operator's Manuals For:
 
GE Dash 9
GE AC6000CW
GE AC4400
 
So If You Need To Know Anything About The Loco's Above.
 
Email Me At: ac_fan_4400@yahoo.com
 
Thanks
AC_FAN_4400


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« Reply #1 on: Nov 18th, 2003, 10:15am »
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Moderator note: I think this is interesting, so I made it a "sticky" to keep it up top!  

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« Reply #2 on: Jan 11th, 2004, 7:43am »
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This is interesting and would be great reading.
Do you have copies or just offering info from the Manuals?
I know the answer but was just curious and hurts ask.
Thanks Dave


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« Reply #3 on: Feb 11th, 2004, 10:51am »
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OK I have a question for you.... Whats the external differances between SD40s and SD40-2s as per Southern Pacific practice?
 gilliamq@yahoo.com


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« Reply #4 on: Feb 11th, 2004, 4:57pm »
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Whats the external differances between SD40s and SD40-2s as per Southern Pacific practice?
 
I'm not sure what you mean by "per Southern Pacific practice", but the easiest external difference to spot is that, as manufactured by EMD, the SD40-2 units have longer front and rear "porches" than SD40 units.  The long porches are a sure identifier that they are SD40-2 units.
 
Where it gets tricky is when rebuilder specialists upgrade SD40 units to -2 specs, and they are classified as SD40-2 or SD40-3 units, but are still in an SD40 shell.
 
These days, the safest bet is to have some really good references about locomotive rebuilders, and the units that they are rebuilding for class 1 and 2 railroads.  As an example, approximately half of CSX's SD40-2 fleet consists of rebuilt SD40 units.  
 
Other railroads and lessors have SD40-2 units in EMD SD45 shells, and Helms Leasing has at least one SD40-2 in an ex-EL SDP45 shell!  I saw the unit (HLCX # 6515) at CSX's Rice Yard in Waycross, GA, and WOW! it is one long unit!
 
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« Reply #5 on: Feb 11th, 2004, 5:11pm »
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on Feb 11th, 2004, 10:51am, gilliamq wrote:       (Click here for original message)
OK I have a question for you.... Whats the external differances between SD40s and SD40-2s as per Southern Pacific practice?
 gilliamq@yahoo.com

 
Along the porch length (as Hunter518 mentioned) another way to tell is by the oval shaped sight glass on the engineer's side of the long hood below the front of the radiator grille, dash-2's have them and straight SD40's don't.
 
Rebuilds and retrofits make it hard to be definitive about the heritage of a unit and good historical rosters are the best method.
 
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on Feb 11th, 2004, 10:51am, gilliamq wrote:       (Click here for original message)
OK I have a question for you.... Whats the external differances between SD40s and SD40-2s as per Southern Pacific practice?
 gilliamq@yahoo.com

 
SP never had true SD40-2's. They did have standard SD40's, though. Their SD40M-2's were rebuilt from older SD40 and SD45 units, including some SDP45's and some SD45's with GP40 rear ends.


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« Reply #7 on: Feb 17th, 2004, 10:19pm »
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Do their tunnel motors count? SD40T-2 #8230-8321, #8327-8341, #8350-8391, and #8489-8573
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« Reply #8 on: Feb 18th, 2004, 10:21am »
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on Feb 11th, 2004, 5:11pm, Henry wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Along the porch length (as Hunter518 mentioned) another way to tell is by the oval shaped sight glass on the engineer's side of the long hood below the front of the radiator grille, dash-2's have them and straight SD40's don't.
 
Rebuilds and retrofits make it hard to be definitive about the heritage of a unit and good historical rosters are the best method.
 
Henry

 
A few years ago LLP took on a contract to manage the rebuilding/reconfiguring of (40) SD45T-2's (Of various SP and SSW heritage) into SD40T-2's with extended range dynamic brakes for Union Pacific.  The last renumbering history I have of these on UP was that they were UP2826-2863 and 4923 and 4945.  These would also be foolers from the outside, but instead of having a 20 cylinder prime mover, they beat with the heart of a 16-645E3.  If anyone is interested, I can give you the original road numbers as built.


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on Feb 17th, 2004, 10:19pm, CHESSIEMIKE wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Do their tunnel motors count? SD40T-2 #8230-8321, #8327-8341, #8350-8391, and #8489-8573
CHESSIEMIKE

 
I guess those could count. I don't see why not. I mean, after all they are SD40-2's but with a modified rear end.


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« Reply #10 on: Jul 28th, 2004, 3:38pm »
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Whats the GPM for a GE AC4400? How much fuel can an SD40/SD40-2 hold?
 
EDIT i ment fuel mileage, theres a couple differnt ways to interpet GPM


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on Jul 28th, 2004, 3:38pm, Conrail wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Whats the GPM for a GE AC4400? How much fuel can an SD40/SD40-2 hold?

 
Standard fuel tank was 3200 gallon and an optional 4000 gallon was available on the SD40.  3600, 2600 and 1700 gallons were also available on the -2.


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« Reply #12 on: Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:36pm »
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on Feb 17th, 2004, 6:48pm, aXion23 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
SP never had true SD40-2's. They did have standard SD40's, though. Their SD40M-2's were rebuilt from older SD40 and SD45 units, including some SDP45's and some SD45's with GP40 rear ends.

 I heard that the reason that athearn and RRP made SP SD40-2's and SD45-2's were because GM called the SD45T-2 and SD40T-2 "SD40-2's"and"SD45-2's"!!!!!


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on Oct 22nd, 2004, 3:36pm, ERIESDP453667 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 I heard that the reason that athearn and RRP made SP SD40-2's and SD45-2's were because GM called the SD45T-2 and SD40T-2 "SD40-2's"and"SD45-2's"!!!!!

 
I don't think Athearn made straight SD40-2's in SP. Here's an article that might clearup some confusion:http://espee.railfan.net/tunnel_motors.html (mid-way down the page, by Don Strack)


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« Reply #14 on: Oct 23rd, 2004, 11:53pm »
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Looking for the length of EMD's SDP45 and GP40TC.  
 
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SDP45 = 70' 8"
GP40TC = 65' 7"
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« Reply #16 on: Feb 21st, 2005, 7:02pm »
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Why did the GP/SD38 line have paper airfilters, yet no other EMD factory built locomotive did?
                 Dave


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« Reply #17 on: Feb 27th, 2005, 10:43pm »
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Because they are not turbocharged

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SO a turbocharged EMD cannot also have a paper airfilter..odd, thank's!!
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« Reply #19 on: Mar 2nd, 2005, 9:48pm »
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If it will be of any help, I've got some specs from the Chief Mechanical Officer of the Southern Pacific.  It's dated August, 1990.  
 
It gives info on builder, service assignment, #of axles and horsepower.
 
This is not operator manual stuff, just SP specs.


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