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« Reply #40 on: Aug 11th, 2005, 4:22pm »
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Even ATSF might have entered the takeover picture, if D&H had been granted the entire EL mainline, instead of the just the Binghamton-Buffalo section.

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« Reply #41 on: Aug 22nd, 2005, 4:11pm »
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Maybe, but I kinda of doubt that the ATSF would step in, but we will never know, but it's fun to guess.  Guys, just imagine if the D&H was still around, with there Lightning Stripes diesels, I keep thinking of what could have been of the D&H, but it's too late. Hey Matthew, I think you brought this up but whats the situation with 7303 and it's proposed CP paint scheme?

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #42 on: Aug 30th, 2005, 7:49am »
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Here's an interesting find. A D&H snowplow painted  in the "Lightning scheme".
http://nepa.railfan.net/dhplow.html


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #43 on: Aug 30th, 2005, 8:07am »
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Hey guys,
 Here's a link to pictures of a former D&H bridge on the Plymouth branch in Wilkes Barre, Pa.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6444/dhplt.htm
 
But sadly it was torn down for a levee raising project, which is ridiculous, but it seems that nobody has any respect for historical bridges.
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Lofts/6444/pbd.htm


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #44 on: Sep 4th, 2005, 10:32pm »
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Here's a link to a page about a D&H rail trail for all you athletic people. All D&H fans have to bike this trail , just kidding. Enjoy.
http://members.tripod.com/Kenyon_Karl/Del-Hud.htm


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #45 on: Sep 7th, 2005, 9:52pm »
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I was watching PBS lately, and to my suprise a show about the D&H came on. It was about the D&H's long abandoned Honesdale Branch. It was very sad and I became a little teary. The people were salvaging old mileposts and were going to donate them to a local historical society, but the music and all the beautiful pictures of the stations on the honesdale branch and so on brought me to tears when the guys pulled out the old mileposts, and carefully wrapped them up and trucked them away. Another piece of D&H history saved. It was a very moving show.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #46 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 8:14pm »
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on Aug 22nd, 2005, 4:11pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Maybe, but I kinda of doubt that the ATSF would step in, but we will never know, but it's fun to guess.  Guys, just imagine if the D&H was still around, with there Lightning Stripes diesels, I keep thinking of what could have been of the D&H, but it's too late. Hey Matthew, I think you brought this up but whats the situation with 7303 and it's proposed CP paint scheme?
Remember, ATSF had been interested in purchasing EL, so who knows?  Adding D&H would have sweetened the pot.  Just think- lightning stripes on the first truly transcontinental RR!  
 
I have some pics of 7303 in my collection but i haven't been able to find them.  I don't know what CP plans to do with her paint job, so I'm curious, too.


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« Reply #47 on: Sep 12th, 2005, 8:44pm »
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Hey Matthew,
 Srry guys that I haven't posted in a while but I'm busy with school. But I didn't think about the ATSF and the EL. It might have happened, but in the 70's the D&H wasn't in a very bad financial shape, in the late 70's early 80's is when the D&H was in big trouble. I just hope that 7303 comes back to Taylor yard with the other D&H units.


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #48 on: Sep 27th, 2005, 6:21pm »
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Hey guys,
 Here's some pictures of some D&H action in a railroad calendar I have.
 
Just to the left of the picture is the D&H's Green Ridge yard. There are at least 7 tracks visible in the photo. Some of the tracks you see are actually lead tracks into the yard. Just beyond the right side of this photo was the Green Ridge roundhouse. With trains moving from the north(toward the left) to Carbondale and New York State,and to the south(toward the right) to South Scranton and Wilkes Barre, there was a great deal of traffic at this point. Today, the volume of traffic is significantly less than it was in 1926. The D&H line that stretched north from Green Ridge yard to Carbondale, in many places four tracks, is today a single track with a few sidings. No longer do trains travel up Ararat Grade north of Forest City, since the track north of Carbondale was abandoned and removed in the early 1980's. The line that is still active is the property of the Lackawanna County Railroad Authority,and the Delaware Lackawanna Railroad operates trains on the tracks.


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #49 on: Sep 27th, 2005, 6:53pm »
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Here's a picture of LV C-628's pounding up the North Side of Ararat Mountain with a D&H train, WR-1.

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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #50 on: Dec 9th, 2005, 12:25pm »
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Hey guys,
 Yesterday I was crusing around Green Ridge and I saw this really old D&H bridge built in 1904 and remarkebly it was in very good condition. Also the Penn Division is looking real bad. I looked at the tracks and they were all crooked and the ties weren't too healthy either. But there were alot of sidings and interesting switches that I have never seen before. The switches have a little flap on top that you open and oil. If I ever get a chance I want to explore the D&H penn division and get pictures. I'm sure there's alot of interesting items left on the line.


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Nickel Plate Road "Berkshire" #759
Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #51 on: Nov 2nd, 2011, 12:31pm »
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Hey guys,
 I was just checking out the Steamtown forums and I saw a thread with some pics of Steamtown engines on the Penn Division with it's destination being Carbondale. Here's the link
 
http://forums.railfan.net/forums.cgi?board=Steamtown;action=display;num=1159226934


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #52 on: Jan 2nd, 2012, 7:40pm »
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Was looking at RP.net today and found an interesting picture at the Colonie Diesel shops. Enjoy!
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=385669


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #53 on: Jan 9th, 2012, 12:13pm »
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Not sure if a link was provided to this website yet but here's a great assortment of pictures of the D&H including the steam era, pictures of D&H units at the Binghamton Roundhouse, and much much more! Enjoy
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/dh/dh.html


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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« Reply #54 on: Jan 9th, 2012, 8:23pm »
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on Aug 22nd, 2005, 4:11pm, NKP759fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Maybe, but I kinda of doubt that the ATSF would step in, but we will never know, but it's fun to guess.  Guys, just imagine if the D&H was still around, with there Lightning Stripes diesels, I keep thinking of what could have been of the D&H, but it's too late. Hey Matthew, I think you brought this up but whats the situation with 7303 and it's proposed CP paint scheme?

 
I have a book called  Lost Railroads of New York Volume 1: The Lehigh Valley at Buffalo which says the D&H was given the option to purchase LV trackage between Binghamton and Buffalo, but the D&H chose instead to exercize trackage rights on the former EL instead. I wonder what would've happened if the D&H had chosen the LV instead?


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« Reply #55 on: Jan 9th, 2012, 10:18pm »
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We will never know. But once Anthracite coal died out as a major heating and industrial fuel the railroads died. Heres an interesting article regarding the re-emergence as PA Anthracite coal as a profitable and now in high demand fuel.  Would have been interesting if coal made a comeback years ago and maybe the D&H would not be a fallen flag. Interesting article as there are no active coal mines in the Lackawanna Valley even though we are sitting on 100's of years of supplies of coal. Never know what the future holds. Sorry just daydreaming here haha
 
http://articles.mcall.com/2011-12-25/business/mc-allentown-coal-shortage-20111225_1_coal-stove-coal-region-king-coal


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Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
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« Reply #56 on: Jan 10th, 2012, 8:21pm »
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That's an interesting article... and is similar to reports of the the anthracite revival in regards to R&N traffic. Perhaps the trend will also bode well for the remnants of the D&H in coal country.

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« Reply #57 on: Jun 5th, 2012, 11:34am »
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I found this article from 1988 regarding the D&H filing for bankruptcy and all the different railroads that had interest in running or buying out the D&H. Here's the link.
 
http://articles.philly.com/1988-06-21/business/26268380_1_delaware-hudson-railway-conrail-interim-operator


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Built: August 1944
Builder: Lima Locomotives Works
Driver diameter: 69 inches
Boiler Pressure: 245
Coal: 22 tons
Water: 22,000 gallons
Retired: 1958
Used on the famous High Iron Excursions
http://www.cr.nps.gov/history/online_books/steamtown/shs2o.htm
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