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Mark J
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« Reply #20 on: May 6th, 2005, 4:43pm »
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I'm going to take us east on the CPR line in southern BC 244 railway miles from where pa sub1's picture was taken of the bridge to nowhere at mile 94 of the Boundary sub to Fort Steele, BC, at mile 95.5 on the Cranbrook subdivision and mile 0 of the Winderemere sub where traffic is as busy as ever.  Fort Steele is the junction of the Cranbrook and Widermere subs and sees multiple coal trains daily.
 
After a minor incident involving a broken rail, the Golden auxiliary was sent down the Windermere sub to rerail some equipment.  A manifest train had derailed on the south end of #3 track while pulling into the yard at the Fort to be staged for a while.  Apparently this is one of only two auxiliary teams left on the system in western Canada.  By the time I got off work and made it down there they were just finishing rerailing the last car which had fallen off the tracks.


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Mark J
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« Reply #21 on: May 6th, 2005, 4:45pm »
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A closer shot of the two cranes shown suspending a 130 ton loaded center beam flat.

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« Reply #22 on: May 6th, 2005, 4:48pm »
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A shot of the car being suspended while the trucks are realigned to land on the rails on #2 track.  The car was on the next track over and had to be lifted and swung over from #3 track...

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« Reply #23 on: May 6th, 2005, 4:52pm »
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Here's a shot from the other end of the operation now looking south.

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Mark J
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« Reply #24 on: May 6th, 2005, 4:54pm »
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...and one more of the two ex baggage coaches which travel with the cranes; the cable car and the tool car

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Mark J
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« Reply #25 on: May 6th, 2005, 5:03pm »
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While I was there, the daily south wayfreight showed up.  Here's one I took of them as they entered the Cranbrook sub from the Windermere sub via the north leg of the wye at Fort Steele with their train in the forground.  The head end is crossing the Kootenay River while in the forground is loaded gondolas of ore for the smelter in Trail, BC.  The lumber cars on the headend were most likely lifted earlier from the Canfor sawmill in Radium.  The train is westbound on the Cranbrook sub and southbound on the Windermere sub and will be clear of the Windermere sub in a few short minutes.
 
The power was 6022, 9018, 5793, & 5617


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« Reply #26 on: May 6th, 2005, 5:23pm »
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Just in case you were wondering how I managed to get the last shot I thought I would post this one.  It was taken from the conductor's window of AC4400cw 9705 which was the power for the auxiliary.  In order to clear the wayfreight, work 9705 had to back up clear of the north wye switch.  We are sitting right near mile 0 of the Widermere sub, the actual junction interlocking is just out of view around the curve.  You can see one of many osprey nests in the area on top of a telephone pole.
 
Behind the unit is a gondola of freight car trucks and two flats loaded with panel track to repair the damaged track in the yard after the derailment.


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« Reply #27 on: May 6th, 2005, 5:42pm »
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Kind of on a roll here...While the auxiliary was doing its thing a coal load roared by at 30 mph on the main.  The rear two thirds of this train is still on the Cranbrook sub while the headend is at mile 0.5 on the Winderemere sub.  Here at Fort Steele 9838 west becomes 9838 north.

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« Reply #28 on: May 6th, 2005, 5:56pm »
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9800 was the remote on this train, 128 cars behind 9838.  As of a couple months ago, trains with a remote on the tail end no longer need sbu's as the remote can activate an emergency brake application making the sbu's redundant.

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« Reply #29 on: May 6th, 2005, 6:24pm »
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...This is a shot of m.o.w. forces regrading the roadbed to repair the damaged track...

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« Reply #30 on: May 6th, 2005, 6:40pm »
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on May 2nd, 2005, 12:53pm, ENR3005 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
...I will be posting ten photos a day as I have to fight for time on my wife's computer to scan and post them...

 
The wife must be winning....
 
Here's an everyday pic taken last august of two empty coal trains on #1 and #2 track at Fort Steele in the same location as the derailment above.  Both trains will be eastbounds on the Cranbrook sub to one of the five coal mines in the Elk Valley/Crowsnest pass area.


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« Reply #31 on: May 6th, 2005, 6:58pm »
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BAM!!    
 
I'll warp to one of those coal mines, took this one at Elk Valley Coal's mine at Sparwood, BC.  This is Elkview,  the train is loading at 0.25 mph and the headend is passing the tailend on the loop track close to the loop track switch.  8616 is the headend and 8510 is the remote at this point.  This particular train is a "turner" as it is destined to go east on the Cranbrook sub thru the Crowsnest pass into Alberta and points beyond.  It is called a turner because headends have to be reversed in order to travel eastward from Sparwood on the Cranbrook sub.


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« Reply #32 on: May 7th, 2005, 5:53pm »
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If you drive on HWY 3 west of Grand Forks, you will see a cut to the north of the highway, north of the Canada/USA customs at Danville.   This line was the VV&E's to Phoenix, BC.  Last used in/about 1919.   From the highway it looks like it was used less than a decade ago.  As HWY 3 climbs from Danville (westbound) you will be on the VV&E grade for about 4 miles.  The Phoenix Ski hill access road will give you lots of opportunities to look/find/explore both the VV&E as well as KVR ROW's as both RRs were into the mines at Phoenix.   The spur to Phoenix from the KVR mainline was at Eholt (for those of you with a detailed map).
 
A great book for maps of the area is Cycling the Kettle Valley, by Dan and Sandra Murphy? (I can't find the book for the exact title and author's names, but I think this is correct)
 


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I'll warp to one of those coal mines, took this one at Elk Valley Coal's mine at Sparwood, BC.  This is Elkview,  the train is loading at 0.25 mph and the headend is passing the tailend on the loop track close to the loop track switch.  8616 is the headend and 8510 is the remote at this point.  This particular train is a "turner" as it is destined to go east on the Cranbrook sub thru the Crowsnest pass into Alberta and points beyond.  It is called a turner because headends have to be reversed in order to travel eastward from Sparwood on the Cranbrook sub.

 
 
Why do the headends have to be turned?  From your pic, the train looks like it can go either direction as the cabs of both units are facing outwards. ? ? ?
 
Also, I have seen the coal trains with the remote unit with the cab facing the same direction as the headend unit.   Why is the remote's cab not facing the rear as your picture shows? ? ?


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Why do the headends have to be turned?  From your pic, the train looks like it can go either direction as the cabs of both units are facing outwards. ? ? ?  Also, I have seen the coal trains with the remote unit with the cab facing the same direction as the headend unit.   Why is the remote's cab not facing the rear as your picture shows? ? ?

 
Mabye this should have been put into the Crowsnest area thread but oh well...
 
The coal circuit has loop tracks on either end of the line, at the mines and at port/power plant/steele mill.
 
Head ends have to be switched at Sparwood because the Fording River sub junction switch faces westward on the Cranbrook sub.  Here's the best picture I could find showing the junction switch, the one with the red target.  We are on the Cranbrook sub main looking eastward.  As you can see, any trains coming down off the Fording sub have to be reversed in order to head east.
 
It doesn't matter which way the remote is facing unless it is planned to be used as a leader.  It's not quite as easy as it sounds to switch ends on a train.  The locotrol has to be set up, brake tests have to be done, helper units have to be added due to the ascent over the Crowsnest pass and the sbu has to be moved.  I know I mentioned earlier that sbu's were made redundant on trains with a remote on the tail end but sbu's are still used on turner trains.


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[quote author=Mark J link=board=CP;num=1115052780;start=20#30 date=05/06/05 at 18:40:22]
 
The wife must be winning....
 
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Not today   Great photos Mark! Here are some more from Warfield, Fruitvale, Castlegar, Columbia Gardens and Trail. I have elected to omit a large number of photos because I took them for modeling purposes only in case I ever made a layout based on any of the trackage I saw. I will posts some of them if people are interested in something they see in the posted photos. My scanner does not scan the best and my later photos from 2002 will be digital which I will post after I have finished with all the older photos.  
 
I will try and have some more up in the next couple of days if my wife will let me use her computer  
 
Chris
 
First photo is Castlegar switcher doing some work at the mill. Trackage looks to be in really good shape.


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A shot through the trees of the warehouse loading dock. The mill looks like it has been upgraded in recent years.

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Chemical unloading racks.

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Another shot of the Castlegar switcher

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Castlegar switcher sitting in the yard waiting for it's next assignment.

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