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Re: Lehigh Valley Auburn Roundhouse Fire - By LV319 on 06/07/16 at 06:20:11 - 'image-7.jpg' 99 KB
The Lehigh Valley Railroad Roundhouse in Auburn, NY has been demolished.  Pervious posts show the structure on fire and the building's condition after extinguishment.
 
6/6/16
11:44 am

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 04/11/16 at 20:52:28 - 'IMG_1394a.jpg' 138 KB
I had plenty of time to come down off the bridge for this shot, a westbound making a drop at Rochester yard with garbage that would make its way back to Fairport for unloading.

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 04/11/16 at 20:49:36 - 'IMG_1393a.jpg' 181 KB
Up on Lyndon Ave bridge, looking west, the signals said "a westbound is coming, crossing from track 2 to track 1."  I get a kick out of blinking signals, which indicate a train taking the switch.

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 04/11/16 at 20:47:53 - 'IMG_1392a.jpg' 211 KB
Visited CP359 yesterday afternoon, caught this eastbound manifest rolling through the interlocking.  That's the "south ice" siding in the foreground with all the pretty dots on the rail.  The south ice holds maintenance equipment or surplus freight cars, when needed.

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 04/08/16 at 20:13:16 - 'IMG_1390a_CSX.jpg' 131 KB
Stopped by last night on my way home, walked along the canal without seeing anything moving - until I reached the Lyndon Ave bridge.  I'd call this "garbage in, garbage out."

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 03/27/16 at 14:06:25 - 'IMG_1367a.jpg' 176 KB
An eastbound autorack coming off the West Shore; both West Shore and main line signals in view.

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 03/27/16 at 14:03:15 - 'IMG_1365a.jpg' 192 KB
An eastbound manifest coming off the West Shore, with a number of BNSF grain hoppers behind the engines.  CSX 7340 is a former Conrail CW40-8; they used to be everywhere.

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Re: MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 03/27/16 at 14:01:27 - 'IMG_1364a.jpg' 180 KB
A couple more photos from March 20, a walk along the canal...
A westbound Amtrak with the eastbound West Shore signal at left of photo.

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Re: Lehigh Valley Auburn Roundhouse Fire - By LV319 on 03/26/16 at 10:17:06 - 'LV_Roundhouse_480x360.jpg' 23 KB
This picture was taken on March 14, the Monday after the fire.  As of 10:00 am today (3/26/16) the site and structure remain in the same condition.  Because the structure has an asbestos roof and interior cladding, an enviromental review is being conducted.  Though the final determination of the structure's disposition has yet to be decided, demolition is a strong possibility.

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Re: Lehigh Valley Auburn Roundhouse Fire - By LV319 on 03/26/16 at 10:06:41 - 'Brian_Reily_4_639x852.jpg' 70 KB
It's been two weeks since the fire at the Lehigh Valley Roundhouse in Auburn.  Here is a picture showing the structure fully involved with fire, as Auburn Fire Department units are just arriving on the scene. The track seen in the foreground is the Finger Lakes Railway Mainline, the old New York Central Railroad's Auburn Road line. Photo credit: Brian Reily.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 03/24/16 at 20:54:13 - 'IMG_1377a.jpg' 179 KB
The train squealed around the curve at Wallington Junction at about walking speed.  It takes me about half an hour to drive from Newark to Sodus, and I wasn't going all the way back to Newark.  The ex-PRR trackage heads south from Wallington, then cuts across farmland and such to end up near Rt.88.  I wasn't up to following the train, ending up in Newark in the dark.  At least I made it this far in daylight.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 03/24/16 at 20:43:51 - 'IMG_1372a.jpg' 103 KB
The crew crossed over to the south track (closest to the station) and headed east.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 03/24/16 at 20:42:25 - 'IMG_1369a.jpg' 135 KB
There were two vehicles parked at the station offices and engine house - kind of strange for that late in the day.  #408 dropped the cars near the Maple Ave. crossing and headed west, I figured, to "head for the barn."

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 03/24/16 at 20:39:34 - 'IMG_1368a.jpg' 149 KB
Talk about dumb luck...  This morning, on my way to work in freezing rain, I spotted a school bus making the obligatory stop at a crossing on OMID around Williamson.  I considered telling the driver he had nothing to worry about, at 7:30 AM.  On my way home, I thought about taking Rt.31 to Rochester for a visit to Goodman St. yard.  Instead, I headed north from Newark to Sodus on Rt.88.  I detoured up Belden Ave. to find OMID 408 pulling some cars out of the cold storage at Maple Ave. - at 5:30 PM.  I wondered if they were just pulling the cars over to the engine house to deliver to the Newark interchange tomorrow morning.

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Lehigh Valley Auburn Roundhouse Fire - By toddsyr on 03/13/16 at 11:20:24 - 'LV_Auburn_Roundhouse_Fire.jpg' 45 KB
Syracuse.com has reported a fire at the old LV roundhouse in Auburn, NY.  
 
LINK URL
 
The link contains a video of firefighters at the scene. Though the building is still standing, it is not reported how badly damaged it is.  
 
It looks like this occured yesterday, March 13, 2016 though that isn't clearly stated either.
 
Todd K Stearns

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 03/07/16 at 19:12:11 - 'IMG_1362a.jpg' 230 KB
Nice night photo.  They wouldn't roll anything out of the barn for you?  
 
I ventured over to the CSX mainline and OMID interchange this noon.  I heard the OMID blow for the crossing - twice.  They swapped a hopper for a boxcar on the interchange, then made their way back to Sodus.  I drove north to Mud Mills Road - not a great place to park off the road, or get a clear shot of the OMID.  Luckily, no traffic, and I made it back to work in plenty of time.  Man, that horn is loud.
Just south of this crossing is a passing siding, probably used to run around the train or store cars.
I spotted the boxcar in Sodus on the drive home.

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 02/26/16 at 10:04:18 - 'IMG_0771_1_864x576.jpg' 80 KB
It's a cold and blustery day, as the Finger Lakes Railway Auburn Local Engineer makes his way back to the end of his train, where he will ride the last car during a backing move into the yard. The gondolas carry Canadian National, Atlantic & Western, Grand Trunk Western and Bessemer & Lake Erie reporting marks.
 
2/26/16
9:18 am

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MP359 in 2016 - By firstbelt on 02/07/16 at 20:11:21 - 'IMG_1349a.jpg' 162 KB
I made my way to Fairport on Feb.6, was held up for about 20 minutes at the crossing on Rt.250 (Main St).  An eastbound manifest was traveling 5 or 10 MPH, which was passed by another eastbound as I waited with dozens of other impatient cars.  At the head end were some garbage containers on flatcars, probably picked up at Rochester's Goodman St. yard.  I took a walk east from the Fairport DPW off Turk Hill Rd, along the canal.  The eastbound train was parked on track 1, and I heard the brakeline as the head end pulled away.  I figured I had caught a train switching Waste Management's methane recovery at Wayneport.  It would back into the sidings from CP356 (Wayneport Rd).  My view from Lyndon Rd:

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 02/03/16 at 16:11:35 - 'IMG_0745_1_864x576.jpg' 138 KB
A Finger Lakes Railway Maintenance of Way crew uses a High-Rail GRADALL and a High-Rail Dump Truck. with rotating box, to clear brush along the Mainline, where it passes through the Auburn Yard.
 
2/3/16
11:07 am

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 01/14/16 at 21:24:44 - 'IMG_1335a.jpg' 142 KB
I passed about 15 cars on 2 sidings in Newark this past Monday.  Definitely in storage, as OMID did a few years ago.
Looking north.


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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By thebigham on 01/13/16 at 14:52:08 - '100_1625.jpg' 142 KB
One more view

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By thebigham on 01/13/16 at 14:48:56 - '100_1627.jpg' 147 KB
Old MP at the Victor station where the rail trail starts

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By thebigham on 01/13/16 at 14:47:56 - '100_1623.jpg' 144 KB
And an exLV boxcar!

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By thebigham on 01/13/16 at 14:47:03 - '100_1622.jpg' 143 KB
I came across these exNYC tracks in Victor in December. An unusual old plow

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 12/17/15 at 21:55:14 - 'IMG_1327a.jpg' 122 KB
One more shot.  I wonder who had a need for the empty center-beam flatcars... those usually carry lumber.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 12/17/15 at 21:49:26 - 'IMG_1326a.jpg' 153 KB
This past Monday, I spotted a puff of Alco smoke at the other end of some cars on the interchange track.  I made it to the nearby grade crossing in time to catch OMID #36 and several cars squealing around the tight curve, heading north.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 12/17/15 at 21:43:17 - 'IMG_1325a.jpg' 173 KB
I've been working in Newark, spending lunch hours once or twice a week by the mainline at the OMID connection.  I've been waiting to see if I could catch the OMID making a showing there.  Westbound stack train passes under former PRR Sodus branch.

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 12/03/15 at 20:07:03 - 'OMID_FPA4_6777_excursion01a.jpg' 138 KB
I scanned a print that my mom took in the early 1990's when OMID was running excursions, using ex-CN FPA4 6777.  The 6777 made its way out to the Cuyahoga Scenic in Ohio.


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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 10/04/15 at 12:38:01 - 'FGLK_New_Spur_864x648.jpg' 89 KB
Finger Lakes Railway Track Project Update.
 
Installation is complete and the new spur, next to the O-I Runaround, is in service, as evident by the cut of covered hoppers set out on it.  The Mainline is to the left, Runaround in the middle, and the new spur to the right.
 
With this project completed, focus has been shifted to the Auburn Yard Track Project.
 
More updates to follow.
 
10/04/15
11:52 am


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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 09/23/15 at 15:06:21 - 'IMG_0912_1_816x612.jpg' 73 KB
New crossing gates and signals in Auburn.
 
The City of Auburn and the Finger Lakes Railway are installing the new warning devices at the State St. railroad crossing. Gates are being installed to protect State St., W. Garden St. and all associated sidewalks. There are two collision reports on file, one from 3/28/07 and another from 2/5/13. This upgrade should help improve the safety of this busy crossing.
 
9/23/15
12:17 pm


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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 09/23/15 at 09:26:06 - 'IMG_0906_1_816x612.jpg' 74 KB
The FGLK Auburn Local has completed the early switching at the Owens-Illinois Glass Container Plant and has returned to the yard to begin switching the Nucor Steel Spur. The empties have been placed on the Main, to make room for the loads that will be pulled and placed on the siding. Than the empties will be pushed into the spur for loading.
 
9/22/15
8:05 am

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 08/26/15 at 16:54:45 - 'image-6.jpg' 98 KB
The FGLK Auburn Local and Sweep Train Engineers talk, while the GS2 Conductor makes train connections.  Both crews worked together, setting out the block of cars for Auburn, than pulling the outbound block.
 
8/26/15
2:57 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 07/14/15 at 13:04:20 - 'FGLK_2308_864x648-2.jpg' 63 KB
The Auburn Local Engineer remotely operates FGLK 2308 through the Perrine St. RR crossing, having just passed a Track Crew who are completing work on the newly installed turnout. It's the first train through the work zone since work began last Friday, and is enroute to service customers on the west side of Auburn.
 
7/13/15
12.02 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 07/12/15 at 11:31:58 - 'image-5.jpg' 138 KB
A face only a railfan would love!  FGLK 2308 tied down on the Nucor Steel spur.
 
7/11/15
7:11 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 07/02/15 at 22:17:27 - 'FGLK_2308_864x648.jpg' 85 KB
Conrail Blue is out and Lightening Stripes are back in, as FGLK B23-7 #2308, originally a Southern Railway locomotive, assumes the role of Auburn Local power.
 
7/2/15
11:30 am

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Re: Ontario Midland - By firstbelt on 06/29/15 at 19:07:55 - 'IMG_1150b_OMID.jpg' 129 KB
I feel I've been playing cat-and-mouse with OMID for the past week or two.  I sometimes spend my lunch hour near the OMID interchange with CSX on the north side of Newark.  A week or so earlier, I heard a horn blow around 12:30 for the Welcher Road crossing; apparently the crew was headed for Sodus.
Around Wednesday, June 24, a high-rail truck hit the crossing as I was headed for my lunch spot, as I saw the crossing signals but heard no horn.  As I headed back for work, the truck was making its way through the Newark "yard" for some trackage along Country Club Drive.  The truck had a pretty good size tank with some hose coiled on the back.
 
OMID #36 appeared early Friday morning, June 26, to pick up a few cars in Newark.  I could hear it blow for the crossing around 7:45 AM.  Didn't pursue it, as I was headed in to work.  On the way home, I passed through Sodus, to find a couple cars at the cold storage and #36 alongside the shops.

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/15/15 at 14:10:11 - 'FGLK_Owens_Runaround_648x864.jpg' 76 KB
The Auburn Yard project is not the only work being done in the Auburn area. This photo is looking RR east, toward the O-I spur. We are on the opposite side of the "Owens Runaround" from the Mainline, where clearing, grading, compaction and a ballast base is being added.  Additional track is being added here also.  When entering the Walmart/Lowes driveway off of Grant Ave. in Auburn, you can see cars spotted on the Owens Runaround.  
 
5/26/15
7:37 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/14/15 at 12:25:18 - 'Track_Crew_864x648.jpg' 96 KB
The track crew takes full advantage of the reduced rail movements on a Saturday, to continue work in the Auburn Yard.
 
A High-Rail Gradall, High-Rail dump truck with a swiveling dump box and a ballast tamper are employed to cut in the new turnout, just RR west of the North St, crossing.  The diverging route will be connected to the Pallet Track.  Once the turnout just RR east of Perrine St. is cut in and the Pallet Track extended between them, the plan is for that track to become the Mainline through the yard.  
 
6/13/15
12:27 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/14/15 at 12:14:14 - 'Auburn_Yard_864x648.jpg' 138 KB
Auburn Yard update: This is how the yard looked on Saturday, June 6th. You can see where ballast has been placed to left of the double ended siding (L track), which will allow it to be shifted in that direction. Ballast has also been added between that siding and the Mainline, where ties are being placed for the new track. The Pallet Track is farthest right and is being lengthened and double ended.
 
6/6/15
12:12 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/14/15 at 11:15:43 - 'FGLK_1989_2_864x648.jpg' 70 KB
Conrail Blue is back in Auburn. The FGLK Local power is currently 1989, a former Conrail B23-7 built in April 1979, with the same number. The unit is seen pushing hard on a string of gondolas, loaded with Nucor Steel rebar.
 
6/4/15
1:59 pm

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/14/15 at 11:11:13 - 'FGLK_1989_864x648.jpg' 100 KB
FGLK 1989 is seen resting in the sun on her day off (unless a customer needs an unexpected rail movement), just west of the Columbus St. RR Crossing.
 
6/6/15
10:32 am

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By LV319 on 06/09/15 at 22:40:20 - 'image-4.jpg' 122 KB
Sparks fly in the rain, as a track crew cuts rail to length, for installation in the Auburn Yard.
 
6/9/15
11:44am

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Re: Rome, Watertown & Ogdensburg takeover by NYC - By Tom_J on 08/04/07 at 15:41:29 - 'fs34rotary1.jpg' 36 KB
Here's a pic of  the Rotary

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Re: White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:27:07 - 'Facing_South_883x540.jpg' 55 KB
Facing south. The Putnum Ave crossing is in the distance(Coming Soon!)

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Re: White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:17:31 - 'Facing_North.jpg' 79 KB
Facing North. No trains coming

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Re: White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:16:27 - 'Safetran_Electronic_Bells.jpg' 36 KB
It has a Safetran electronic bell.

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Re: White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:15:33 - 'Lots_Of_Lights.jpg' 42 KB
And lots of 12x20 lights at that!

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Re: White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:14:44 - '12x20_Lights.jpg' 82 KB
The Crossing Has 12x20 lights.

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White Street Crossing , Waterville ,NY - By Alek77 on 04/12/07 at 09:13:33 - 'Overview.jpg' 76 KB
I would like to post this because it is RR in CNY. These were taken back in March. This is the White Street Xing of the NYSW rr. It gets used 1 time per day now . First of all, an overview of the crossing.

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Re: Solvay train stuff - By toddsyr on 04/11/07 at 17:40:17 - 'FRAZER_AND_JONES_FOUNDRY_SOLVAY_NY_B.jpg' 162 KB
Here's something that's still with us today, now served by the Finger Lakes Railway. Frazer & Jones Foundry is located on the old NYC Auburn Road in Solvay NY. Image from:
 
LINK URL

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Re: More CNY Photos Wanted - By toddsyr on 04/11/07 at 17:13:38 - 'SYRACUSE_TROLLEY_53_BUTTERNUT_ST.jpg' 27 KB
Few locals today realize the past importance of traction in Syracuse's earlier years. Last I knew, going uphill on Butternut Street, one can still see the rails protruding through the pavement. This isn't too far from the intersection of Park Street. Anyhow, here's Syracuse #53, utilized on the Butternut Street line. Image from:
 
LINK URL

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Re: Solvay Process rolling stock - By toddsyr on 04/11/07 at 16:57:49 - 'SPLIT_ROCK_QUARRY_A.jpg' 42 KB
Though not actually rolling stock, the old cable line from Split Rock to Solvay Process hauled alot of limestone at one time.  This is the only image I've ever seen of the line and figured it deserved a spot in this thread. After the Split Rock explosion, limestone was then garnered from the Jamesville Quarry via the DLW/EL. Is that the Auburn and Syracuse line also depicted? I think it's another line but that's the only name popping into my tired brain at this time! Image from:
 
 
LINK URL

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Re: More CNY Photos Wanted - By toddsyr on 04/11/07 at 07:36:52 - 'CR_STACK_TRAIN_SOLVAY_NY_AUG_13_95.jpg' 118 KB
SP Run-Through power heading back towards home on Conrail in '95. From:
 
LINK URL
 
More details are in the bottom of the photo.

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Re: Geddes Street Yards - By toddsyr on 04/03/07 at 17:28:52 - 'EL_1271_GP7_SYRACUSE_NY_SEP_73.jpg' 61 KB
Sporting the later style paint scheme is EL GP-7 1271 in September of 1973. This image is courtesy of the Larry Berger Collection. 1271 is shown at the Magnolia Street engine facility. The large building in the background was Morris Distributing, a distributor of TV's and other appliances. The building is still there, but Morris is long gone.

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Re: Geddes Street Yards - By toddsyr on 04/03/07 at 17:15:42 - 'ERIE_1230_GP7_SYRACUSE_NY_JUL_18_64.jpg' 62 KB
Yet again, from the William Nixon Collection. Still in ERIE paint, EL GP-7 1230 sits at the sanding tower on July 18, 1964. This should be at the Magnolia Street engine facility, the service area for the Geddes Street Yards.

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Re: Geddes Street Yards - By toddsyr on 04/03/07 at 17:04:17 - 'EL_1213_GP7_SYRACUSE_NY_NOV_18_64.jpg' 67 KB
Also from the William Nixon collection comes another GP-7 in early paint, EL 1213. This loco also faces East towards downtown Syracuse. The overhead crane in the background is actually in the NYC portion of these yards. I swear this is the same crane that now sits on the old West Shore track still intact on the East side of Syracuse. The spur at the bottom right of the photo split into two seperate spurs and crossed Fayette Street to serve seperate customers.

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Re: Geddes Street Yards - By toddsyr on 04/03/07 at 16:51:00 - 'EL_1201_GP7_SYRACUSE_NY_SEP_7_64.jpg' 57 KB
Thanks guys, glad you liked the photo. It was really exciting to find a new one of this yard. Dan, as you know, even Dewitt pics aren't that easy to find. I think I've posted more of my own in this forum than I've found on the Net. Scott thanks for identifying the Alcos. I'm only good at the types I have in N scale, lol. A bigger thanks for the spotting tip, 4 vs. 6 axle.  
 
 I know of some other vintage Geddes Street Yard photos. All are found on:
 
LINK URL
 
 I don't know how I could bear life without George Elwood and his many fine contributors!
 
 This is EL 1201, a GP-7 in the early paint scheme. The date is September 7, 1964. This fine photo was contributed to Mr. Elwood's site from the William Nixon Collection.
 
 The spur in the bottom left corner crossed Fayette Street to serve a local customer. 1201 is facing East in the photo, towards downtown Syracuse.

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Geddes Street Yards - By toddsyr on 04/02/07 at 08:38:50 - 'CR_2024_GEDDES_ST_SYRACUSE_NY_AUG_16_77.jpg' 247 KB
After years of searching the internet and finding but a few photos of the old Conrail / Erie Lackawanna / Lackawanna Geddes Street Yards, I figure it's about time I asked for some more input here on railfan.net. Also, I'll gladly share what little I've found so far. These now gone yards, also known as the Fayette Street Yards, have always fascinated me as they hold my earliest railroad related memories. These yards once served customers such as Allied Chemical's Solvay Process Division, Church & Dwight, and even Crucible Steel at one time. Many smaller customers were also served from here as well. P&C Foods and G.E. come to mind immediately. Sadly, it's VERY difficult to find any photographic evidence of these yards whatsoever. I have found some however and my latest finding has spurred this thread. A BIG thanks to John Durant and his photo from:
 
LINK URL
 
Here's Conrail 2024 right near the overpass at the corners of Fayette and Geddes Streets. An RSD15 I believe. The large building in the background still survives as renovated office space. There's only one track through here now, no more yard. It's now owned by NYSW and connects Binghamton with CSX in Syracuse and FGLK in Solvay.  
 
Todd K. Stearns

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Re: Train Sightings 3/23/06 - By Alek77 on 03/28/07 at 09:45:18 - 'sc4.jpg' 108 KB
Then we went to the overpass over 7th North St. and my dad went up the gravel road up to the tracks. I asked him if we were allowed up there and he just said that there were no signs telling us not to. .We waited up there for about 15 munutes the we saw a HUGE CSX doublestack train heading east toward Dewitt Yard. Then we went home. Here is a map showing where we saw the doublestack:

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Re: Railfan guide to Utica,NY-an Alek77 Guide - By toddsyr on 03/18/07 at 19:39:07 - 'DLW_CROSSING_TOWER_CORTLAND_NY_SEP_9_91.jpg' 52 KB
Cool! I'll be looking forward to that. Meanwhile, here's the tower I was speaking about in Cortland NY. From     LINK URL
 
"DLW Xing Tower - Cortland NY - 09/09/91 - {Greg Dickinson Photo}"

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Re: Oneida NY Derailment & Explosion 3-12-07 - By toddsyr on 03/14/07 at 05:44:55 - 'ONEIDA_DERAILMENT_B.jpg' 111 KB
Adam17 stated:
"I just can't understand why there are so many derailments. Is it bad track? Is it speeding?..."
 
On todays news it was said that a bad rail was to blame. Apparently it had bowed somewhat. Many are saying CSX doesn't spend enough on maintenance. CSX claims it does just the opposite. Though I'm sure money is spent cautiously, I'm sure CSX knows the value of a decently maintained ROW versus the costs associated with deferred maintenance. The 1960's and 1970's are a textbook lesson in this matter.
 
paulstecyna21, thanks for the data, and welcome to the forums also!
 
Dan, I can see the ground in alot of places here today, but on Monday there was still over a foot of it in the yard. No need to worry though, it's suposed to snow over the weekend.
 
BTW, here's the photo that made the cover of Tuesday's Post Standard.

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Re: Solvay Process rolling stock - By toddsyr on 03/14/07 at 05:21:16 - 'ACDX_27904_TM.jpg' 71 KB
They look like Oldsmobile Cutlass Supremes or Salons to me. Seeing how you liked the last photo, how about one in the other paint scheme that prevailed in Solvay?
 
Again, from the famous George Elwood website:
 
LINK URL

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Re: Oneida NY Derailment & Explosion 3-12-07 - By toddsyr on 03/12/07 at 12:17:52 - 'Oneida_Explosion.jpg' 11 KB
Hey folks, had to get a couple hours of sleep.  Latest I've heard:
 
The Thruway is closed between exits 34A and 33, That's from Rome to Dewitt. 6 or 7 cars of propane caught fire and are still burning. 3-4,000 people have been voluntarily evacuated. There's also some tank cars of other chemicals in the 77 car train. So far they are fine. A total of 15 cars left the tracks. ALL roads in the vicinity of the incident are closed. That really sucks. My first stop every night is right off T-way exit 34. Guess I'll be going the LONG way tonite, via Chttenango on route 5.  
 
Todd K. Stearns
 
Lots of News stories here:
 
LINK URL

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Re: Solvay Process rolling stock - By toddsyr on 03/12/07 at 06:26:57 - 'ALLIED_CHEMICAL_3A_ALCO_S4.jpg' 61 KB
This photo looks to have been taken in Solvay at an unknown date. I know there was some spare panel track stored near the roundhouse at one time. The power lines are in the right place for Solvay also, same with the tracks. "KERMIT GEARY, JR. Photo from the GARY STUEBBEN Collection" is from:
 
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Railfan guide to Utica,NY-an Alek77 Guide - By Alek77 on 02/28/07 at 20:59:07 - 'vcUtica3.jpg' 84 KB
Hello, my name is Alek77 to all you novice CNY railfans out there! If you are planning a trip to Utica, or live in Utica and want to see trains heres is some good places and tips...On the Ex-NYC mainline through Utica, you can see both freight and Amtrak trains. A good place to watch,(for me,that is!) is the driveway to the abandoned pink house on Route 5  between Mohawk and Utica.  At the place where the tracks go very close to the road, there is a spot with an abandoned little pink house across the tracks from Route 5 there is a little pavement spot there to park,sit,and just watch trains. (Saftey tip: make sure the very frony of your vehicle is not too close too the tracks.) Another good place to railfan in Utica is Union Station's over-the-track bridge. Occasionaly you may see a train on Schyler st. Another good spot to watch the mainline is the Landscaping place in Whitesboro near the old,abandoned factory. There is a driveway between the highway bridge and the old factory to watch trains.Below is a map of the spot in Whitesboro:

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Re: Grasse River Railroad - By toddsyr on 11/08/06 at 07:39:41 - 'GRRR_GRASSE_RIVER_RAILBUS_SANDY_POND_NY_SEP_66.jpg' 109 KB
The same data applies to this neat old railbus photo.

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Re: Grasse River Railroad - By toddsyr on 11/08/06 at 07:37:32 - 'GRRR_GRASSE_RIVER_COMBINE_SANDY_POND_NY_SEP_66.jpg' 166 KB
Here's the remains of an old wooden combine in Sandy Pond NY in 1966. Just a guess, but I'd imagine this is on the old Rail City property. I think the image is from    
 LINK URL         but can no longer locate the image there.

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Re: Grasse River Railroad - By toddsyr on 11/08/06 at 07:28:12 - 'GRRR_SYSTEM_MAP.jpg' 52 KB
Again, from the same website, apparently this is on the reverse of the 1933 timetable. Decent map of the GRRR and it's connections to the outside world.

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Re: Grasse River Railroad - By toddsyr on 11/08/06 at 07:25:30 - '1933_GRRR_TIMETABLE.jpg' 60 KB
Again, same website, 1933 timetable.

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Re: Grasse River Railroad - By toddsyr on 11/08/06 at 07:23:01 - 'GRRR_1924_TIMETABLE.jpg' 59 KB
1924 Grasse River timetable from same website.

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Re: Lyons, NY (rshsdepot) - By toddsyr on 09/09/06 at 17:02:46 - 'Fast_Ferry.jpg' 57 KB
You seem to be in the know on these matters so please keep us posted on any new developements. It will be appreciated! I know the ferry ran awhile at least, then I heard it stopped. Thanks, Todd
 
Image from:
 
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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By locnut on 07/17/06 at 19:44:40 - 'finger_lakes_1751_edited.jpg' 148 KB
I just want to add a picture that was taken in late summer of 2004. This trip was from Their Himrod ny yard to Watkins Glen
and back.
 
They use the old Pennsy line that ran along Seneca Lake.
They make one stop on a bridge that over looks Glenora Pt.
This bridge is about 180 feet high. The  track rises over 200 feet from Watkins to Himrod.

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Re: Solvay train stuff - By toddsyr on 06/10/06 at 00:57:43 - 'ALLIED_CHEMICAL_4.jpg' 31 KB
Here's the way we all remember Allied Chemical in Solvay NY. Image from:
 
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Re: Raquette Lake Railroad - By toddsyr on 06/10/06 at 00:50:32 - 'WANAKENA_NY.gif' 51 KB
Nice shot of Cranberry Lake Railroad no. 5 Dan. Wanakena NY is at the red star in the map below. As the crow flies, Wanakena is approximately 10 miles Southeast of Newton Falls. Map from Mapquest.  
 
From:      
 
 
LINK URL
 
"CRANBERRY LAKE RAILROAD - 1902 - ran from Benson Mines to Cranberry Lake, 6 miles, where it made connections with the Carthage and Adirondack (C&A), sold in 1914 and tracks pulled up in 1917."
 
 


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Re: Adirondack RR - By toddsyr on 06/01/06 at 22:25:06 - 'ADIRONDACK_RR_WORK_CARS.gif' 2 KB
Gino, that's great data, keep up the good work! There's a good Carl Johnson photo at:
 
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The location is undisclosed but dated 1986. These things sure lasted a long time!

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Re: Raquette Lake Railroad - By toddsyr on 06/01/06 at 22:09:36 - 'CIRCA_1905_RLRR_PASSENGER_TRAIN.jpg' 208 KB
Back to the Raquette Lake Railroad. HM Beach photo and text from:
 
LINK URL
 
"The Raquette Lake Railway started as a small lumber line, pushing from Carter into the woods.  Carter, originally called Clearwater (with no apparent water in sight) was buried in the back woods.  A passing track connected to a 'Y' with the connection to the Raquette Lake Railway, which went to, you guessed it, Raquette Lake.  The only sign of habitation [in Clearwater] was the depot / freight house and a New York Central company house.
 
'History suggests that it was extended to Raquette Lake to provide a convenience of travel for three railroad barons, the Vanderbilts, Durants and Huntingtons, to reach their summer camps on the lakes. Stories abound that Mrs. Durant suggested to her husband [Dr. Thomas Durant, 1820-1885], that if he could build the east / west railroad link across the USA, surely he could build a short link to the camps.  [Craig Gilborn in "Durant" attributes the quote to Mrs. Collis B. Huntington.]                                                                                              
 
'The railroad terminated at this township, with a complete return loop. There was a considerable size depot, as many passengers alighted here, for onward connection by steamer to the Raquette Lake camps and on to other camps on other lakes, via the Marion Carry Railway. Also a spur went out to the lake side which enabled one freight car to be loaded onto a barge.
 
'One of the interesting features was a spur, solely for the Huntington's private car, which was stored in a covered shed structure.  Industries around the loop included:  a freight house, saw mill, Standard Oil and a spur for coal for the steamers.  During the winter, this coal spur was used as the point where ice was harvested and loaded into special open top box cars for shipment to ice houses down the line.
 
'The Raquette Lake Railway had its own motive power, 2 Moguls, which were housed in a one stall engine house with fuel oil facilities.'
 
from 'The Adirondack Line' by Malcolm Alberry"
 


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Re: Raquette Lake Railroad - By toddsyr on 06/01/06 at 21:50:18 - 'LFD_TRESTLE.jpg' 115 KB
LOL, very funny. You have an excellent page on it at:
 
LINK URL
 
I didn't see a credit for the very impressive photo that I lifted from there, but here it is. Todd

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Re: Raquette Lake Railroad - By toddsyr on 06/01/06 at 16:19:36 - 'Cranberry_Lake_NY_Lumber_Yard_1919.jpg' 68 KB
Yes Gino, the Grasse River was owned by the Emporium Lumber Co. Below is a photo of the Cranberry Lake facility dated 1919. The pic is from:
 
LINK URL
 
Thanks for the tip on the book too.

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Re: Adirondack RR - By toddsyr on 06/01/06 at 15:41:42 - 'ADRC_LAST_TRAIN.jpg' 87 KB
Hi Gino. Always nice to see new folks here, welcome. I appreciate your post, lots of new information there. You seem to know alot on the regions railroads, so I'm sure you'll be a tremendous asset to this forum. Hope you saw the RS3 pic Dan posted.  Man, sure is alot of Adirondack area railroads with similar names! Check out this neat photo and text from:
 
 LINK URL
 
"From Doug Ellison - The last train from Lake Placid has just arrived in Thendara. It was a clean up operation taking all remaining equipment out of Lake Placid and returning it to Thendara. Within moments Frank Menair will shut down the locomotives and the (ex) employees will go to Van Aukens or Charlies Steakhouse and say their good-byes.  
 
The last revenue train out of Lake Placid to Thendara and Utica occured almost a year before in August, 1980. Todays train was largely sponsered by Walter Rich of Delaware Otsego as an inspection train, actual ADRC operations having shut down in December, 1980. Charlie Palmer and son Robbie shared engineer duties, and Jimmie Williams acted as Conductor with Doug Ellison pinch hitting as brakeman and Clyde Houck (CC Bickens) and Mike Pashley as mechanical and track.  
 
Another note: While for us on the ADRC this was a bit of a bitter and emotional ending, it was also a night of a new beginning. Dave Work, our Chief Mechanical Officer, proposed to Kim Byland the reservations manager at Van Aukens that night. They are still happily married with two almost grown children.
 
Photo by Tim Wakeman"
 
The text reads like a correction to a post. The corrected post seems to be the opening paragragh. Todd
 


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Re: THE AUBURN AND SYRACUSE RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/26/06 at 19:09:20 - 'AS_1839_AD.jpg' 110 KB
Ad for Auburn and Syracuse Railroad. New York Times and Intelligencier, June 18, 1839. From:
 
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Re: THE AUBURN AND SYRACUSE RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/26/06 at 14:21:32 - 'AUBURN_SYRACUSE_CAR.jpg' 39 KB
2nd photo from the same site, I can't make out the car number, sorry:


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Re: THE AUBURN AND SYRACUSE RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/26/06 at 14:14:40 - 'AUBURN_SYRACUSE_2.jpg' 34 KB
Dan noted a great link in the M&OL thread at:
 
LINK URL
 
There are many great photos at that site, including a ton of traction photos from around New York state. Data is also included with some of them. From the website:
 
                                          
                                           "Auburn & Syracuse Railway  
Auburn & Syracuse Railway operated local car lines in Auburn with a 27 mile interurban line from Auburn to Skaneatles and Syracuse.  City operation ended in 1927 and the interurban line was abandoned April 15, 1930.  When I was a kid travelling through Auburn in the  mid-1940s on US 20, there was a boulevard lined with the traction company power poles still in place resembling latice work similar to those used in downtown Albany.  
Mahlon Bingham photo, circa 1910-1918  
Caption data from Bill Volkmer  
Mike Colby collection"
 
First of 2 A&S photos from the website, S&A car number 2:
 
 
 


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Re: Marcellus & Otisco Lake RR - By dansapo on 05/24/06 at 15:06:48 - 'BCK12.jpg' 17 KB
Here's a scanned photo of #12.It was only on the roster for 1 or 2 years. this is a Cal's Classic photo.

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:51:14 - 'FGLK_TUNNEL_MARCELLUS_NY_B.jpg' 128 KB
Opposite side of the tunnel in Marcellus. I hope everyone enjoys the photos and I hope to continue farther West as finances permit. If someone else gets to it before me, that is fine also. Also, maybe someone could start from the West end? Whatever saves me money, lol! Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:49:06 - 'FGLK_TUNNEL_MARCELLUS_NY_A.jpg' 128 KB
Again, we head West just a short distance. This is where the FGLK crosses NY State route 174 on a high fill. It's our local tunnel.  There's not another that I know of for considerable distance. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:42:11 - 'SMALL_CRANE_MARTISCO_NY.jpg' 130 KB
There's one more thing I found interesting here at Martisco. A small Finger Lakes Railway MOW crane on a small siding just to the East of the station. It sits just across the tracks from the bean company. FGLK is to be commended on rehabilitating a line that was all but written off by Conrail and Penn Central. They've done alot of tie replacement and installed alot of welded rail as well. Sorry the crane photo isn't better, but I figured the barrier shown meant stay out, which of course I did. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:35:57 - 'LIVE_STEAM_TRACK_MARTISCO_NY.jpg' 121 KB
One other cool thing on the other side of the passenger car, large scale track! I'd wager live steam myself. The track also has a spur leading indoors. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:32:28 - 'NARROW_GAUGE_LOCO_MARTISCO_NY.jpg' 132 KB
Did you see what was to the left rear of the car in the last post? Here's a better view of an unknown narrow gauge steamer. It's surely seen better days, but is still fun to see!

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:29:47 - 'NYC_CAR_MARTISCO_STATION.jpg' 127 KB
Here's a better view of the NYC car. No number is on the car. Any ideas on the type of car?

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:27:41 - 'MARTISCO_STATION_B.jpg' 112 KB
Here's a view looking East. Note the old NYC passenger car! The station is now a museum, nicely restored. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:24:48 - 'MARTISCO_STATION_A.jpg' 108 KB
Heading a little more West, is the more infamous Martisco Station. Martisco is a contraction of Marcellus and Otisco. The New York Central renamed the station to this to avoid confusion with the later built Marcellus & Otisco Lake Marcellus station. This view is looking North. This is where the M&OL had it's connection to the NYC, which was off to the left of the photo. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:12:38 - 'ESTLINBAUM_LUMBER_SIDING.jpg' 135 KB
A much better view of the siding. This track is no longer connected to the branch, the switch has been removed. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:09:07 - 'CAMILLUS_STATION_REAR_B.jpg' 122 KB
Opposite view. The "blanked out" portion of the station I believe was until recently Estlinbaum Lumber. Note the siding. Todd

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:06:32 - 'CAMILLUS_STATION_REAR_A.jpg' 112 KB
Here's a shot of the rear of the station. This building is on West Genesee Street in Camillus.

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Re: Finger Lakes Railway - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 21:04:21 - 'CAMILLUS_STATION_FRONT.jpg' 97 KB
The Finger Lakes Railway has it's Eastern terminus in Solvay NY. Most know it follows the old NYC Auburn Branch. Back in its heyday, the NYC provided passenger service on this line as well. Heading West, the first station was in Camillus NY. Here's a shot of the station today. Now some private firms occupy the still immaculate structure. Todd

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Re: THE SYRACUSE AND AUBURN RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 20:54:04 - 'SA_WAY_STATION_MARCELLUS_NY_B.jpg' 131 KB
Opposite view. Also, did you note the matching mailbox in the last post?

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Re: THE SYRACUSE AND AUBURN RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 20:51:52 - 'SA_WAY_STATION_MARCELLUS_NY_A.jpg' 123 KB
This neat little structure was once an S&A way station for passengers. It now sits on Falls Road in Marcellus, beautifully restored. It's also filled with other artifacts. What I wouldn't give to see those!

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Re: THE SYRACUSE AND AUBURN RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 20:48:31 - 'SA_ROW_ARTIFACT.jpg' 155 KB
I found a bunch of these things lying next to the ROW in the same location as above. They have a "W" shape and seem to be some sort of ceramic, but they are very heavy, probably at least 40 pounds or more. They're a few inches thick and maybe a foot or so in length. Old roofing material?

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Re: THE SYRACUSE AND AUBURN RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 20:43:45 - 'SA_ROW_NEAR_HOWLETT_HILL_RD.jpg' 141 KB
This ROW is much more distinguished. It's along Howlett Hill Road, West of the previous shot. Todd

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Re: THE SYRACUSE AND AUBURN RAILROAD - By toddsyr on 05/18/06 at 20:40:55 - 'SA_ROW_CORPORAL_WELCH_ROAD.jpg' 89 KB
Here's a shot of the former S&A ROW near Corporal Welch Road. There's not much to see except the tell-tale treeline which occupies the former ROW. Todd


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