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towny72
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I have been reading a good bit about CN buying C40-8s but many of what I read is a contradiction. Some things I read say they are for DPU, others they are meant to lead, some say they are for CA use only. The truth and pics are welcome!
C40-8 aka Dash8-40C (conrail) one of my more favorite locos….
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CN Sparky
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I know a fair bit about them... the first 35 (road number 2100 thru 2134) are ex-UP locos, which in turn are ex-CN&W. A few of them are running around in CN paint now. They've had some cab upgrades done too: New seats, fridge, microwave, hot plate, cab light, camera, Witronix, Trainlink ES, etc... No DP equipment, at least not yet. No Auto Engine Start/Stop either.
The 6 or 7 that I've seen so far are all in Canada. Seems as soon as they've been released from the Centralia shops, they head north to Winnipeg and then east/west from there. None have gone back to the US yet.. though I've been told they're for Canadian service as they don't have to meet EPA emissions that way. We'll see.
They are more than capable as leaders.. but I suspect unless there's a problem and the crew has to wye their power, they'll be sticking to trailing service as there is no A/C on any of them.. just some little fans.. they are narrow cabs.. they're noisy.. blah blah blah...
The next bunch are ex-Santa Fe's.. gullwing cabs.. with A/C of most of them pics I've seen. Those might not be so bad to lead with... I expect the same types of mods to them, but time will tell.
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towny72
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The spartan cab GEs do look good in CN colors.
The next few months should be interesting. Hope to see more of these units.
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on Jul 29th, 2010, 10:22am, towny72 wrote: (Click here for original message)The spartan cab GEs do look good in CN colors.
The next few months should be interesting. Hope to see more of these units. |
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What is the logic behind buying these used units?
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CN Sparky
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I don't try and understand the 'logic' anymore.. 
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towny72
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Logic has no place on the railroad.
We have replaced 6 traction motors in a unit just to scrap it a few months later.
Has CN purchased any C40-8Ws? I have only seen spartan cabs so far....
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CN Sparky
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I think the premise is that you can upgrade these 20-year-old Dash 8's with an EGU so they're electronic fuel injection.. therefore able to meet Tier 0 emission standards. And hopefully get another 20 years out of them? You can't do that with a 30 to 40 year-old SD 40-2 or 40-3... so they should be phasing out the SD 40's.
Now.. why the numbers of GP9's is dwindling lately.. I don't see CN buying any B40's to replace those! In fact, they parked all the BCOL B39's a while back.. no idea why.
The next bunch of Dash 8's are ex-BNSF.. ex-ATSF units. The 800 series? Widenose cabs, gullwings I believe. Numbers 2135-2161?? Check out this site for more info:
http://www.thedieselshop.us/CN.HTML
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towny72
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Have any C40-8Ws shown up in CN paint yet?
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Piglet
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I have seen a few rolling through Edmonton over the last few weeks.
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grobrailman
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It seems to be the trend to buy used and upgrade/refurbish railroad equipment.
It does make sense and is some what cheaper especially if you can get another twenty years out of the equiptment. 
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towny72
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Not sure if thats a trend. Can you give more insight?
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Sbhinder273
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From my perspective these C40-8's are a replacement for the SD40-2's and SD40-2W's that were retired over three years
CN SD40-2's 5364 - 5387 [ these units replaced the Alco's ] there are a handful left
random CN SD40-2W 5241 - 5363 [ There are less than 60 of these units left in service ]
BCOL SD40-2 730 - 769 I am still upset as to why CN retired these good units. they were in better shape than the widecabs
BCOL B39-8 3901 - 3912 [ These units are still in good shape ]
IC SD40-2R 6000 - 6072
IC SD40-2 6100 - 6144 [ These units were overhauled 10 years ago ]
and 5 SD40-3's damaged from that accident in Duluth
These units will be used for both DPu and Lead service as well as for Canadian usage
The BNSF units are restricted to US only at the moment
Here is a nice pic courtesy of Flikr
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Piglet
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Its very interesting, I was seeing these almost every day coming through Edmonton for a long time after they arrived, and I haven't seen one now for over 2 weeks.
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Piglet
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Well after a few months of not seeing any of these units, I have seen two in the last week. Tonight 2115 came through east bound with its fancy "15" paint job. Of course I was out of the rig and didn't have my camera with me, figures doesn't it?
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