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Re: Brightening up the Ohio River Sub - By WVa_Jon on 08/18/16 at 21:08:36 - 'BO_depot_2.jpg' 274 KB
This view shows the west wall, looking south and east towards Huntington's downtown section. Compare this view with some of those dating back to 1964 or so, and the classic 1895 photo of the train coming into town.
 
To me, there's just something special about this depot and when I get another chance to visit, I'm going to do my best to get some better photos (it was raining like crazy that day in June 1992!) and maybe even a meal in the restaurant!

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Re: Brightening up the Ohio River Sub - By WVa_Jon on 08/18/16 at 20:58:49 - 'BO_depot_1.jpg' 247 KB
One of my children found a batch of photos which I had taken back in June 1992. I'll upload one of them, if possible, then perhaps the other one. Both are "grab" shots of the former B&O, originally Ohio River Railroad. I've not been able to get very many photos of any kind in a long time but at least we have these.
 
The station was basically abandoned back around 1965, with the track going to Kenova removed around that time. Some years afterwards, the station was reopened as "Heritage Station", when a former Elk River Coal & Lumber Co. 2-8-2 was repainted to stand in for B&O Mike 4559. The engine and a few cars (a passenger car or two and at one time a pair of boxcars) were in place there for some time. Again, I haven't had a chance to do much research for several years--I now live five states away!

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Thinkin Lincoln on 05/05/16 at 09:02:24 - 'little_2007_pict6901.jpg' 107 KB
And then one last one, right before demolition.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Thinkin Lincoln on 05/05/16 at 09:01:47 - 'photo-1.jpg' 272 KB
Here's a better one, from a higher angle and the other side.....

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Thinkin Lincoln on 05/05/16 at 09:00:09 - 'BO_Foxburg_PA.jpg' 147 KB
Of course it is, kind sir!
 
This bridge, built to replace another one in 1921, was located in Foxburg PA on the northern Sub of the old P&W/BR&P, to cross the Allegheny River.
 
It was demolished by explosive implosion on July 24, 2008, and this was shown on a show called "The Detonators" (yay, another crap reality TV show!) on the Discovery Channel.
 
I am sure there are other cases of a "double decked" railroad/road bridge, but this one was pretty cool, you have to admit!
 


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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Thinkin Lincoln on 05/04/16 at 15:55:19 - 'BO-3.jpg' 62 KB
Depending on your level of B&O knowledge and your TV watching habits, you might know this location from one of two completely different sources.....
 
Built in 1921 and dismantled in 2008, this GTL location hosted three forms of transportation.
 
Nearby, the PRR came thru town, but not this way.
 
Talk about taking the long way to Buffalo...............
 


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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/25/16 at 14:26:41 - 'Untitled-3.jpg' 54 KB
So as far as archeology goes, I was referring to the Hoye Prehistoric Indian Village site (LINK URL ) located here, and the station, which was built in the 'Queen Anne" style, and seen here in 1970, courtesy of the Maryland State Archives......

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/25/16 at 14:23:27 - 'Untitled-2.jpg' 60 KB
Without a doubt, it's Oakland, MD!
 
I can't really offer ANY details about the photo, other than I found it on a Maryland Paranormal website at LINK URL ), which credited the Oakland Business Directory Guide at LINK URL , on page five. Now, it gives no info on date or photographer, either.
 
But attached is the un-cropped version, which itself is ALSO cropped!

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/22/16 at 14:17:38 - 'BO-2.jpg' 45 KB
The B&O is really racking up the GTL miles today.........
 
So, now we move east........This little town shares its name with a famous pier station, four towns in Canada, and about 60 different towns in the USA (Texas seems to hold the record for the largest amount of town with the same shared name - of course it does!), and is also the home of an Prehistoric Native American archeology site (I may go visit just for that alone!)
 
The B&O built the station in 1884, and from what I can tell, is the original station, (can't find any "B&O built thru here" info at this time), and the "Queen's style" makes for a nice little station worth visiting.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/22/16 at 11:33:15 - 'BO_Willard_OH_Bruce_Phillips_RRpicturearchives.net.jpg' 58 KB
Indeed it is, kind sir!
 
For those of you joining us later, I was referring in my clues to NBC weatherman WILLARD Scott, and to Daniel WILLARD, past President of the B&O and for whom the town was named after.  
 
Before the city was known as Willard, it was called CHICAGO JUNCTION, because it was originally called CHICAGO, due to the fact that it was where the line to Chicago branched off the St. Louis mainline.  
But travelers got it confused with the "real" Chicago, hence the addition of "Junction" to the name....But the station name was too big for sign boards and didn't help end the confusion, so they changed it to Willard in 1917.
 
This is a Bruce Phillips photo from RRpicturearchives.net

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/22/16 at 10:25:59 - 'BO2.jpg' 60 KB
Staying with the "O" in B&O theme.......
 
Now, I don't know if Mr. Scott's parents got the idea for his first name from this junction city, but if they did, they should have named him Daniel instead!
 
Now even though this city has always been a major B&O junction, it wasn't until 1960 that it actually legally became a city, which is pretty late if you ask me.
 


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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By L. Winston Ogle on 04/13/16 at 15:31:23 - 'BO.jpg' 64 KB
Next up, a Midwestern town named for Alexander the Duelist, visited by Lincoln the Great Emancipator, and officially has an exclamation point after its name.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Raritan Clunker on 03/31/16 at 10:43:56 - 'BO_Railroad_Viaduct_from_Benwood.jpg' 245 KB
H_S -
 
You know what, and ONLY because I know you are FAR more knowledgeable on the B&O than I am, I will give you the win.  
 
I was under the impression that this photo was looking WEST into Ohio from Benwood Jct., WVA and is the trestle leading up to the bridge, but I could be mistaken. I look forward to further clarification/discussion on this.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Raritan Clunker on 03/30/16 at 15:35:31 - 'BO_1.jpg' 71 KB
OK, next up!
 
It twists, it turns, it crosses itself and a river, with a junction on both sides!
 
The town across the river may SAY they have "good air", but in days of old, it would not have been true.
 
And although located in a steel producing area, even though the town of Bethlehem is nearby, it's not the Bethlehem one usually associates molten metal with.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By Raritan Clunker on 03/30/16 at 15:28:12 - 'BO_Cambridge_OH.jpg' 97 KB
Sheesh, I just realized we never resolved the last GTL! And you all KNOW I don't like to start a new one before we finish the old one, so.....
 
Since we CLEARLY don't have any takers, we are looking at Cambridge, OH.

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By J. W. Booth on 02/09/16 at 13:47:36 - 'BO-B.jpg' 96 KB
Ready?
 
How about this town thats known for it's curvy crossings, it's "good enough" attitude, and the hometown of this "Mercury Man".

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By J. W. Booth on 02/09/16 at 13:26:35 - 'BO_Heaters_WV.jpg' 102 KB
Oh, so sorry Vern, you have the right OSB plant, but the wrong town! Danny's right, this is Heaters, WV

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Re: GTL - The B&O Edition - By J. W. Booth on 02/05/16 at 11:48:52 - 'BO-A.jpg' 102 KB
So, according to Wikipedia, this town - "has no stoplight, no gas station, nor a general store. It used to have two bars, both of which are now closed."
 
Wow, so I wonder where the employees of the giant OSB plant can go to lunch?
 
I bet it never gets cold in this part of West Virginia, either...............

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GTL - The B&O Edition - By Bridge 1A on 01/11/16 at 15:33:56 - 'BO1.jpg' 87 KB
What? Oh no, no B&O GTL....Until now!
 
In the days before the Metro.................

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/17/15 at 12:05:06 - '100_2570.jpg' 114 KB
Rochester & Southern (exBR&P) Eagle, NY
 
Robinson Road passes under the abandoned R&S Rochester line.
 
I love the old stonework here
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, May 3, 2015.

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/12/15 at 18:47:30 - '5.jpg' 356 KB
Same tracks looking towards the Weaver Road crossing where the tracks end
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, November 1, 2015.

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/12/15 at 18:46:11 - '4.jpg' 266 KB
Rochester & Southern Silver Springs, NY
 
Abandoned rails of the Rochester & Southern RR just east of Silver Springs, NY.  
 
These tracks are the former Silver Lake Railway which was bought by the BR&P.  
 
The tracks between Weaver Road and Perry were abandoned in 1973.
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, November 1, 2015.

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/12/15 at 18:43:41 - '3.jpg' 221 KB
Rochester & Southern Freedom, NY
 
The former R&S railroad grade (exBR&P) under Rt 98 near Freedom, NY. I'm standing on the Rt 98 overpass.
 
Farmersville Station is up ahead on the old grade. After that, it was Elton and then Machias Jct.
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, May, 2015.

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/12/15 at 18:43:41 - '2-3.jpg' 158 KB
Rochester & Southern Freedom, NY
 
The former R&S railroad grade (exBR&P) under Rt 98 near Freedom, NY. I'm standing on the Rt 98 overpass.
 
Farmersville Station is up ahead on the old grade. After that, it was Elton and then Machias Jct.
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, May, 2015.

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Re: Buffalo, Rochester & Pittsburgh In COLOR - By thebigham on 11/12/15 at 18:42:17 - '1-2.jpg' 162 KB
I live in Arcade, NY, about 7 miles from the former BR&P Rochester Branch. Here are some of my pics.
 
Rochester & Southern Freedom, NY
The former R&S railroad grade (exBR&P) under Rt 98 near Freedom, NY. I'm standing on the Rt 98 overpass.
 
Up ahead is Crystal Lake, then Freedom (the station still stands) and eventually Silver Springs Jct.
 
Rt. 98 is on the former railroad of the Buffalo & Susquehanna Buffalo extension. The B&S was abandoned through here in 1917.
 
Also through here is the narrow gauge Tonawanda Valley & Cuba RR. They had a bridge over the BR&P. The line was torn up in 1894.
 
Photographed by Chris Bigham, May, 2015.

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Re: The B&O at St. George (Staten Island) - By NEFAN on 10/16/15 at 09:17:12 - 'Staten_Island_Arlington_yd_Staten_Island_NY_10881.jpg' 28 KB
The Arlington yard was quite empty by the early 80's with an NW2 working the yard. I remember that this was a very cold day.

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Re: The B&O at St. George (Staten Island) - By NEFAN on 10/16/15 at 09:14:53 - 'Proctor_Gamble_S4_Staten_Island_NY_10881.jpg' 48 KB
on Oct 5th, 2015, 3:56pm, McAdoo WG wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Modern day scenes of container trains at Arlington (former SIRT North Shore line); this is near the location of the old Proctor & Gamble plant, which, for many years, was one of the B&O's biggest customers on Staten Island.....
 
(courtesy: nycsubway.org)

I remember the P&G plant which had its own Alco switcher.

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Re: The B&O of TEXAS? - By SSW9389 on 07/06/07 at 16:54:25 - 'SCANNED_PHOTO_32_BO6906RFATCOMMERCE-TAK.jpg' 78 KB
Terry Kirkland photo of a Cotton Belt local led by a B&O GP30 pulling down the main past the scale track in Commerce, TEXAS.

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Re: B&O Blue - By TAB on 07/02/07 at 02:53:17 - 'BO_Freight_Snow_e33rd_st.jpg' 221 KB
Hey Posters...I thought this might be of interest to B&O fans. The photo is of an east bound train at East 33rd. Street, Bayonne NJ on Jersey Central rails. The picture dates from the early 1960s. I was making good use of a snow day off from school...Tom

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Re: I just HAD too...... - By s1bigsix on 06/30/07 at 22:10:21 - '7613_Good_color.jpg' 140 KB
Well sir, i own two Riverossi 2-10-2's. and two brass ones. I own two brass EM-1's, three brass E-27ca's. two brass L-2's, a Brass B-54, a plastic D-30, a Brass EL-5a, a brass P-7, a brass Q1aa, two brass Q-4's, four plastic Q-3's, and a home made partly built L-4 all brass. OH ya I left out the three brass T-3's and the brass Q-7f. Now would you like to start talking about B&O cabooses, freight cars, or maintenance of way B&O equipment? Let me know which ones you want the list of? I don't talk about what I cannot back up. No I did not collect all this in a couple years, but I also did not waist my time and money on junk. I saved to buy the good one. As to the Riverossi 2-10-2's. One of them is being converted to Brass drivers, side rods, and valve gear as well as a makeover of the boiler accessories. The other one is junk and in pieces in a box. Good luck with your adventure. I really find it hard to believe that a Cab forward is a good starting point for an EM-1, but to each his own. By the way, where do you think the picture I posted in the previous message came from? It is my layout.
 
Bryan

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Re: I just HAD too...... - By s1bigsix on 06/29/07 at 23:18:07 - 'P1000546_1280x960.jpg' 204 KB
Here let me show what it will look like when you get it done.
 
 
 
Bryan

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Re: I just HAD too...... - By s1bigsix on 06/28/07 at 09:32:55 - '7611_Good_color.jpg' 150 KB
why do you bother with that Riverossi junk? It will never be a B&O steam engine. There is nothing on a Riverossi articulated that is B&O. You say you finally have some Brass B&O. Fix it up like you are talking about. The only sound decoder with lighting effects I would recommend it from Sound Traxx. It is called the Tsunami. It is the best on the market, and the Medium steam decoder comes with a true B&O 0-8-0/2-8-0 whistle. these have 100 CV's that you can program. I just cannot put into words how great these systems are.
 
   Now back to your models. Why would you want to disrespect the EM-1 by bothering to continue to try to rebuild it into what will never be a B&O engine. You need to find a photo of a Key Imports EM-1 and when you make your akane look like that does, you will have a winner.  You speak as though you are a proud B&O man who wants to have good models of the B&O for future generations to see. Yet you would discrace the railraod by trying to pass off junk like some Lionel toy train as being B&O. Get books, read, study, and ask questions of they B&O guys out here. Do it right. Stop being so cheap. Precision Scale, and Bowser sell almost all the detail parts you will need to update that Akane to a much better engine. Good luck with the make over.
 
Bryan

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Re: I just HAD too...... - By EM-1 on 06/12/07 at 19:46:36 - 'BO_EM-1_7600_B4D.jpg' 18 KB
And now, one of the tender to my all time favorite engine......

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Re: I just HAD too...... - By EM-1 on 06/12/07 at 19:43:53 - 'BO_EM-1_7600_B4B.jpg' 20 KB
Another..... I know its not painted correctly, but I'll change all that, PLUS I plan to add sound, alot of special effect lighting, and smoke. I'm going to change some details on the model, like the headlight, the brass plate for a "Capitol Dome" decal to go there with a Brass Capitol Dome casting, and a new casted headlight, and I plan to add the foam spreaders to the firebox sides, a moving deck plate between engine and tender, possibly add brake shoes to the engine, and piping. Plus the bell isn't completely correct, the EM-1's had air ringer bells on them so, thats going to change, and I want to add more piping and such that it doesn't have and all the rod lubricators etc, that this model doesn't have. I must say, that sounds like alot to some, but its not really, and I'm not complaining mind you, I merely want the older Akane model to look like the newer OMI versions thats been sold.
 
The lighting, thats going to be FUN! I'll be adding my own headlight, to my new headlight casting, plus the engine already has a cab light, plus I'm going to try to light the marker lights, and then add firebox glow to the firebox as well.......Plus a tender back up light.  
 
On top of all that electronics, I want to add a Sound  system to it as well from BLI. Anyone have an idea of what they have for sale as far as sound systems go thats close to how the EM-1's really sounded? Sorry you guys thats DCC, my whole HO scale collection is straight DC. Anyway, here's that picture.....

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I just HAD too...... - By EM-1 on 06/12/07 at 19:34:52 - 'BO_EM-1_7600_B4A.jpg' 10 KB
Well guys, I have to say I got my name sake! FINALLY! I have been very busy lately and haven't gotten around to it but, alittle over a week ago I aquired a BRASS B&O 2-8-8-4 EM-1, thats made by Akane.....Here's some pictures of my 6 almost 7 pound HO scale brute. ENJOY!  

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 06/07/07 at 08:20:32 - 'stauffer_lane_2.jpg' 56 KB
Taken at stauffer lane

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 06/07/07 at 08:18:53 - 'douglas_ave_1.jpg' 61 KB
Here is another pic from Douglas avenue!

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Re: Royal Blue (Jersey City-Washington DC) - By Charlie_O on 04/26/07 at 15:02:25 - 'BO_coachyard_thennow.jpg' 163 KB
Looking south along the Schuylkill from Walnut Street...


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Re: Royal Blue (Jersey City-Washington DC) - By Charlie_O on 04/26/07 at 15:01:23 - 'BO_coachyard2_thennow.jpg' 134 KB
Recently discovered LINK URL .  The site includes some views of the B&O coach yard from a 1924 report.  I've taken the liberty of creating some then-and-now comparison shots.
 
First: looking north from Walnut Street to the Chestnut Street bridge.  
 
(The building at center-left with the smokestack...any clues?  Incinerator?)

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Re: Wreck of the #45 train in North Baltimore - By wheeler on 04/17/07 at 00:01:31 - '45_kid_on_bike.jpg' 50 KB
Early railfan? "We'll just ride our bikes on down there to see it!"

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Re: Wreck of the #45 train in North Baltimore - By wheeler on 04/16/07 at 23:52:38 - '45_wreck_engine.jpg' 60 KB
The engine

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Re: Wreck of the #45 train in North Baltimore - By wheeler on 04/16/07 at 23:34:39 - 'wreck_crane.jpg' 63 KB
REAL Ice Cars sorry the pics do not have dates, and I cannot make out the cars' markings

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Re: Wreck of the #45 train in North Baltimore - By wheeler on 04/16/07 at 23:32:32 - 'wreck_crane2.jpg' 44 KB
here are two, you can see the steam crane in the background.

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By EMTRailfan on 04/11/07 at 09:44:55 - 'EngineHouse2.jpg' 275 KB
Here is the north side of the engine house.  I'm not sure if the station had a platform at one time where the closed bay of the engine house is now, and this trackage was used for passenger loading/unloading.  The main curved photo left to the north, and the 4 car siding I mentioned earlier was approximately where the red brush hog is now.  Possibly a little farther photo left.

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By EMTRailfan on 04/11/07 at 09:39:40 - 'KnoxBandO1.jpg' 226 KB
Sorry it took so long to post it.  I promised it 2 1/2 months ago.  Anyway, here is the B&O Knox, PA Station on the Northern Sub.  Not sure of the future of the station as Kahle's Equipment owns the land that the station is on and wants it removed so he can park more machinery around.  The Clarion Co. Hist. Society was talking about moving the station to Lamertine (Salem) and making it a railroad museum.  I've nosed around the station and inside, and honestly don't think it could handle a move.  
 
The building to the right is an old engine house.  I don't know if this was a B&O engine house, or if the Knox and Kane built it and kept it's 30 tonner down here to switch out the glass plant.  This used to be a 3 track crossing with the 2 spurs going into the engine house, and the main curving around to the right just off of the photo.  If you go to the opposite side (north) of the engine house, there is still some rail down in the parking lot of the Sharp Shopper grocery store, (formerly Tom's Riverside.)  Opposite side of engine house photo posted next.  There also used to be I think a 4 car left hand siding off of the main going back along beside the Riverside loading dock ending at the entrance to the glass plant.

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By CHESSIEMIKE on 04/10/07 at 00:37:54 - 'BO_Hancock_Station.jpg' 149 KB
on Mar 14th, 2007, 9:31am, keithgrubb wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Don't forget about Rowlesburg, West Virginia, and Hancock, West Virginia.
How did we forget Hancock, WV?
CHESSIEMIKE


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Team tracks along the Schuylkill? - By Charlie_O on 04/08/07 at 10:59:03 - 'Arch_Street_teamtracks.jpg' 125 KB
Was surfing the net recently and found LINK URL , a site devoted to the history of Philadelphia's sewers and water systems, which features some fantastic glimpses of the Schuylkill industrial area as it was in 1924.  The report from that date decries the deplorable conditions resulting from industrial pollutants, open sewers, etc. and proposes a reclamation of the area (I think the project's authors might be pleasantly surprised to see the same area today).
 
While browsing the images, I noticed what seems to be a thriving set of team tracks along the east bank of the Schuylkill, tho the exact cross-street is not mentioned.  A search of LINK URL yielded an interesting aerial view of the 23rd & Arch street vicinity.  The scarring to the asphalt in the parking lot bears an uncanny resemblance to the arrangement of the 1924 team tracks.  
 
You be the judges... I've created a then-and-now image of the pair.  Anyone know any history on these tracks, their use, time of their removal, etc?
-Charlie


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Re: Is this a B&O bus? - By CSXvet on 03/31/07 at 17:56:44 - 'BOJC066_2.jpg' 111 KB
Here's a little more revealing angle.

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:36:15 - 'Pic202392.jpg' 18 KB
Here is the other base for the signal governing eastbound movements! just to the west of Borlands crossing about 100 ft from it! Behind Chillicothe High School

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:32:36 - 'Pic202391.jpg' 24 KB
Here is a base for where a CPLK once stood governing westbound movements about 100 feet from what is known as Borlands Crossing behind chillicothe high school!

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:30:30 - 'Pic202390.jpg' 19 KB
Here is another one looking west! You can still tell where the tracks once was and further up where there was obviously a diverging from two tracks to one!

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:28:31 - 'Pic202389.jpg' 19 KB
The last pic I forgot to mention that coal pier.Tracks on it are a reminder of what once was! Here is another one looking west toward high street!

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:26:45 - 'Pic202388.jpg' 18 KB
The last one was looking east toward bridge street in the direction of the yard.So is this one.You can see how the roadbed drops off sharply!

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/22/07 at 19:25:11 - 'Pic202387.jpg' 20 KB
I got some more pics of the old right of way by the floodwall in chillicothe.Sorry these are not the best! Till I get a better camera these will have to do.

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/13/07 at 19:54:47 - 'Pic202385.jpg' 20 KB
This view is looking west, the bridge that crossed here is long gone.On the other side of the road is more bike trail!

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 03/13/07 at 19:52:23 - 'Pic202384.jpg' 19 KB
Here is a pic of the right of way to the west of bridge street as it appears today! This view is looking east!

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Re: B&O from Foxburg to Knox in PA - By EMTRailfan on 02/22/07 at 12:42:27 - 'Foxburg_2.jpg' 183 KB
And here is Part 2

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Re: B&O from Foxburg to Knox in PA - By EMTRailfan on 02/22/07 at 12:41:41 - 'Foxburg_1.jpg' 261 KB
Update on B&O Foxburg Bridge removal.  The article is from a local newpaper in Emlenton, PA.  Part 1 for some reason does not flow smoothly into Part 2.  I don't know if  I missed part of it when I cut it out, or it was an editing error.  I couldn't find it.
 
Here is Part 1

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By silver_champion on 02/08/07 at 16:30:15 - 'BO_PHILA..jpg' 30 KB
This is a picture of B&O Station in Philadelphia. I don't remember anything about the station but the fire. Do  anyone have any info on
the station.

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Re: B&O P7 peach..... - By davy_mac on 02/04/07 at 10:39:04 - 'bo-s5309alr.jpg' 82 KB
5309 in colour attached

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Re: B&O P7 peach..... - By davy_mac on 02/04/07 at 10:27:30 - 'bo5309s.jpg' 133 KB

   Hi Wade,
    I'm only interested in the 1950 till end of steam period 57/58.  5317 was practically identicle in detail latterly to 5309,but 5309 sported the short 8 axle type tender till the end as far as I am aware. So I may use this tender with a different variant P7 ,or re-number 5317 to 5309. Only detail difference I can see is in the sandpipe detail.5309 and 5317 were two of a only a few P7s to have standard spoked wheels at the end.

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Re: B&O P7 peach..... - By davy_mac on 02/04/07 at 07:52:39 - 'bo-s5317ahn.jpg' 65 KB
One of the pictures Adam (alco 83)sent me for comparison purposes with the model. The tender variant in this pic shows 5317 with the same type tender as fitted to 5300 in the B&O museum today,in later life she sported  
the 6 axle box type tender.   DAVY

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B&O P7 peach..... - By davy_mac on 02/04/07 at 07:46:36 - 'BO_P7C_Sam.jpg' 113 KB
Hi Guys,
     Long time no here ! but got this beauty on E bay.  5317 as she was in 1950. An HO model which I'll be using as a source of detail info for a new 1/29th scale kitbash of an Aristo pacific.  Adam (Alco83) sent me a couple of pics of this loco a while back , great to have the model and its extremely accurate to my eyes.   DAVY

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Re: B&O wreck by Schooley's Station/ East of Chili - By DRAWHEAD on 01/22/07 at 10:18:03 - 'img212_441x616.jpg' 38 KB
Here is a photo from Oct. 9, 2004 of what the East bridge abutment looks like now.

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B&O wreck by Schooley's Station/ East of Chilicoth - By DRAWHEAD on 01/22/07 at 10:11:13 - 'img211_951x689.jpg' 77 KB
Does anyone know the peticulars of a wreck that occured on the B&O around the early 1900's by Schooley's Station wich is East of Chilicothe,Ohio.Several years back i picked up a old cabinet photo of the wreck there on the bridge.I believe the photo was taken from the South side of the railroad out in a farm field looking towards the Northeast because the creek wich i think is called Walnut creek makes a sharp turn east after passing under and follows the Northeast side of the high embankment between it and the road.It appears that a Westbound freight train did a nice job in rearending a passenger train as the engine telescoped the rear coach and that one did the same to the one in front of it.The tender was thrown off the bridge into the creek below and 2 boxcars stayed on the bridge but look derailed.Other following freight cars on the West bank were thrown from the tracks and smashed to pcs.I've been to the site a few times and all that remains is the stone abutments wich in later years after the wreck were probably refaced with concrete.One can see steel plates with threaded rods inserted and placed to reinforce the abutments.You can also still see evidence of the old hand laid stone i believe on the West bank and in places where the concrete has crumbled.There is much foliage and tree growth there today.I'm guessing the actual steel bridge in the photo was a much earlier one wich was later replaced with a steel girder type design similar to the bridges wich remain West of Chilicothe on the abandoned right of way.Seems like CSX ripped out every bridge going East except for the portions in where track was kept in place wich is now used by the GM&S.I've attached a image of the old photo but had to downsize it quite a bit so the detail may not be that great.The actual photo did not have the date/year of the wreck written on the backside so that is why i'm asking if anyone knows when this may have happened or any of the peticulars why.Thank's!

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By EMTRailfan on 01/21/07 at 16:57:06 - 'KKRR_Marienville_Station.jpg' 287 KB
This is the Marienville station on the Northern Sub, now operated by the Knox and Kane RR.  This photo was taken on which could have been the last day of revenue runs out of Marienville.  The KKRR was given excursion runs for Marienville's Oktoberfest in 2006.  I have a photo of the Knox station somewhere, but am unable to find it.  I will look and post, or just take another photo since I live in Knox.

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Re: Remaining B&O Stations/Depots - By EMTRailfan on 01/21/07 at 16:53:17 - 'KKRR_Lucinda_Station_South.jpg' 202 KB
This station in Lucinda, PA is now non-railroad owned and renovated.  This is along the former Northern Sub, now the Knox and Kane RR which the future does not look good for this RR either.

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By dtiman on 01/04/07 at 13:08:02 - 'bridge_st_xing_ROW_west_1_4_06_716x537.jpg' 78 KB
Here is the westward view, across Water street, with my back to Bridge street. Notice the B&O concrete post now used as a signpost.

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By NS_conductor on 12/31/06 at 17:04:49 - 'Chillicothe_Ohio_mod.jpg' 181 KB
I did a google search and found this nice aerial view of the yard.Not sure of the date though.But it gives a decent idea of it's size

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By Spooler734 on 12/03/06 at 22:52:53 - 'HO_Trains_1_043.jpg' 129 KB
This small 2-6-2 can really pull a lot!  

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By Spooler734 on 12/03/06 at 22:50:41 - 'HO_Trains_1_027.jpg' 147 KB
That is one cool SD70! I used to have alot of B&O stuff in HO scale, I primarily model the WM but i have this little Bachmann B&O 2-6-2 still chugging along.

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By BnO_Hendo on 12/03/06 at 21:24:24 - 'modern_bo_1.jpg' 115 KB
What if CSX decided to make a B&O "heritage" unit?  Might it look like this?

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Re: b&o patterson creek cutoff - By Allegany Fireball on 11/29/06 at 20:24:50 - 'Trevors_Pictures_172.jpg' 203 KB
Here is the old stairway that was removed.

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Re: b&o patterson creek cutoff - By Allegany Fireball on 11/29/06 at 20:23:27 - 'Trevors_Pictures_175.jpg' 217 KB
Here is in-side the tower.

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Re: b&o patterson creek cutoff - By Allegany Fireball on 11/29/06 at 20:16:12 - 'Trevors_Pictures_161.jpg' 326 KB
Thanks to Tom Mugnano's car and Cody knowlage of the cutoff the 3 of us ventured down to the cutoff and took some pics.  
 
Here is the tower in Patterson Creek Wv.

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Re: Chillicothe (Ohio) today - By dtiman on 11/21/06 at 18:08:48 - 'BO_under_CO_westward_11_8_06.jpg' 171 KB
Here is a November 8, 2006 view looking westward down the former B&O St. Louis mainline toward Chillicothe from a location about 2 miles east of Renick yard. The overhead bridge is the former C&O mainline from Russell Ky. to Columbus. The truss bridge in the distance is the Scioto River bridge. This nearly 5 mile segment of trackage east from the Scioto River bridge has been kept in place to serve a Mead (now Glatfelder Corp.) warehouse at TT Schooley's. I'm not sure how often this trackage is used, I can never catch the local out this way.
 
The former mainline still looks great! The pole line isn't overgrown yet, although it is in most other places.

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By BnO_Hendo on 11/12/06 at 17:01:24 - 'bo_2-8-0.jpg' 129 KB
Off to a nice start, indeed, Lawrence!  
 
Well, Athearn bought out MDC Roundhouse.  MDC had built what has to be one of the absolute best 2-8-0 locos ever made in N scale.  MDC's first run included the B&O, but they painted it an all over blue.  It didn't look right.  So MDC released a second run, which had a black boiler and blue trim.  It looked much better- the only problem being that technically this type of 2-8-0 was a freight engine, and would not usually be found hauling varnish.  Did not stop me from getting the passenger cars that went with it, though.  
 
Now Athearn has released this for a THIRD time in B&O, and this time it looks more like a freight loco.  In fact it resembles the A.J. CROMWELL, found at the Train Museum.  Despite the fact I told myself I would NOT get this engine... I did.  

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Re: King (Mineral) Tunnel in Ohio. - By dtiman on 10/25/06 at 16:06:50 - 'kings_tunnel_nearby_underpass_10_21_06.jpg' 211 KB
I forgot to mention another interesting find near King's Tunnel. About 1000 feet west of the tunnel, where I parked, there is an abandoned road underpass that took the township road under the tracks. Apparently after the tracks were torn out, the township crews dug out a section of the RR ROW fill just west of it to give the road a new routing.

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Re: King (Mineral) Tunnel in Ohio. - By DRAWHEAD on 10/18/06 at 20:04:37 - 'dsc_351.jpg' 58 KB
Your most welcome.Wouldn't you just love to see some old photo's of trains blasting out of these old tunnels! The photo by crystalsound does look to be a reversed image.Not sure why that is but i have a few other older non RR related photo's that seem to be reversed when comparing them to modern day ones of same locations.I think there is alot to learn by just scrutinizing what is in some of these old RR photo's,it's just too bad there aren't more floating around.I got out my copy of the M&C RR book by John R. Grabb and the tunnel entrance does look to be similar but it is reveresed.The tie plates,RR ties and rail deffinately give it away as being a later photo from the early 1900's.Any of your old Civil War era photo's will show shorter lengths of rail with no tie plates and only the rail chairs at the rail joints and the ties always look like a tree was just cut down then hewned roughly on 2 sides and thrown on the roadbed where the rail was spiked right to them.I've attched a scan of two styles of early rail chairs.The one on the left is the earlier H style looking chair with the lips bent over in the center at the rail bottom web on each side and where each piece of rail was notched at each end and a spike was driven thru the notch into the hole in the chair.This peticular chair is from the LS&MS and the iron pear rail is 60lb.from the CH&D.The one on the right is a somewhate later version of chair with a bent over lip the length on one side to hold the rail down and and the other side was notched only once at each rail end pc. The chair is the same as the one i found on the M&C and the rail is a very early pc. of 60lb. iron T rail with rounded edges from the LS&MS.Any of this old iron rail is hard to find.There are several pcs.of old pear rail driven into the river bank under the first bridge East of Musselmans on the old CH&D West of Chilicothe wich is now a bike trail.

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Re: King (Mineral) Tunnel in Ohio. - By DRAWHEAD on 10/18/06 at 18:32:48 - 'img655.jpg' 281 KB
Nice photograph but it deffinately isn't 1850's,more like early 1900's.The rail is heavier T rail in the photo and has angle bars at the joints.If it was a 1850's-60's photo the rail would be approx.60lb iron pear rail and have the old rail chairs at the joints.If you ask why.I found a old rail chair from a rail joint burried near old the iron furnace spur over near Tunnel #2 at Richland a couple years back and this past March i found a partially buried pc. of 60 lb.iron pear rail that was broken and 40" long by Moonville over the embankment not to far from the tunnels West portal .Your old rail web bottom at the joints was notched for the spikes wich also fit into the holes of the old rail chair lip for securing the joints.They tended to fail and were prone to breakage,that is why the angle bars or fish plates as some may call them probably came into being I've attached a diagram copy of King's Tunnel from a B&O Tunnel book.According to the diagram photo the East portal had a 2 degree curve where as the west portal did not.The tunnel diagram is dated May of 1905 and May 27,1911 so maybe this is when the timber lining was installed and perhaps when the photo was taken?I've been to all the old M&C tunnels several times and they are quite a work of craftsmanship!

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By silver_champion on 10/12/06 at 15:54:57 - '2-2.jpg' 243 KB
What was the name of the trains that went from Washington to Philly and Jersey City. Here isa B&O train at Jersey City

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/09/06 at 21:02:11 - 'bor2_thatcher_perkins.jpg' 131 KB
Still behind glass is the Thatcher Perkins, a loco from 1863.  While all the items in the Roundhouse were priceless, having locos from the 1860s and 1870s were the jewels of the collection.  Three of those jewels- the Davis Camel, #600, and the Thatcher Perkins were badly damaged in the roof collapse.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/09/06 at 20:54:05 - 'bor2_gg1.jpg' 114 KB
The GG1 that was previously mentioned.  Here's another gripe.  The Train Museum used to have a very nice example of the GG1.  Anyone growing up along the NE Corridor knows about the GG1.  It pulled freight.  It pulled passengers.  It could pull anything.  It was everywhere.  To give it's copy of the GG1 to another museum is unbelievable.  One of the guides we had said they're looking for someone to take that GG1 before it's totally gone.  Going by, I couldn't help but notice how really bad she looked.  The doors are busted in and it looks like parts of the pantographs are gone.

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Re: B&O Heavyweights - By silver_champion on 10/09/06 at 15:43:47 - 'a.jpg' 62 KB
You know going to school back in the 50 & 60s I cross the B&O track everyday. B&O stop running passenger trains in Philly then, so I did not see any passenger trains on the line. The PRR run passenger trains all day long. I like the way B&O painted there cars. Here is a coach picture.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/09/06 at 10:42:02 - 'bo-_pretty_girl.jpg' 206 KB
Ok, a few complaints.  See that picture of #4?  Nice shot, eh?  Too bad I had to leave the museum in order to get it!  They have considerably shrunken the boundaries of where you could walk.  Getting close to #4 was impossible from inside the Museum.  What's the point of having a steam loco if you can't see it?
 
Obviously having such complete access to some engines should not be allowed.  Parents nowadays don't mind their kids.  One day some kid is going to get hurt in a cab of a loco and that will of course result in a lawsuit.
 
The place has gone way overboard on the "family" aspect.  A railfan would find that many of the next exhibits that used to be in the roundhouse are not on display.  Be prepared to have to deal with a lot of strollers and screaming kids.  My video tape is full of police sirens, helicopters, kids yelling WHOO WHOO, and one urban fellow saying "hey, I's on video".    
 
And my last pic here is of a pretty girl that works at the museum whom I want to marry and live happily everafter with.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/09/06 at 10:33:50 - 'bor-_4_02.jpg' 42 KB
Sorry I got cut off here.  Despite what Verizon says about their DSL being reliable, I've had nothing but problems with it!
 
Here's a pic of # 4.  They have got it fixed and running after the roof collapse.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 23:14:03 - 'bor-_25_01.jpg' 79 KB
Here's the #25, sometimes known as The William Mason.  It is being de- "Wild Wild West"-ized, although it's still that ugly shade of green.  It was supposed to be running today, too, but a recent inspection showed that something might be out of kilter on one of the axles on the pilot.  So they erred on the side of caution, and decided not to run it.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 23:10:24 - 'bor-_restoration_facility.jpg' 109 KB
Here's a picture of the new restoration facility.  I am happy to say that my favorite B&O loco, the Davis Camel, has been taken to the brand new restoration facility for repair.  

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 23:07:47 - 'bor-_6607.jpg' 146 KB
One of the B&O's famous "torpedo tube" GP-9s.  That paint scheme was so pleasing, as opposed to their simpler "all blue" scheme.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 23:03:57 - 'bor-_5300_02.jpg' 154 KB
Gripe #2, and this will tie in later with some observations- here's the engineer's side of the cab of the #5300.  I found a kid hanging from that bar- the valve lever?  I told him to get off of it, and he said he was allowed to do that.  I told him I was going to open the firebox and throw him in if he didn't get off that blasted lever.  
 
Finally his father called for him way outside the engine.

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 22:58:50 - 'bor-_5300.jpg' 95 KB
Some good news!  #5300, the only existing example of a President Class Pacific, has been hauled indoors!  I also heard that the only existing example of the ubiquitous Q-3 Mikado, is also going to pulled indoors.  They are going to be cleaned up and cosmestically restored.  As one of the staff told me, there's no reason to restore them, since there's nowhere to run them.  

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Re: Pics (and thoughts) on the B&O's "Steam Days" - By BnO_Hendo on 10/08/06 at 22:55:06 - 'bor-_lafayette_04.jpg' 121 KB
Here's another shot of the Lafayette, showing its Imlay Coaches.  Yes, I imagine it would get very sooty riding like that!  Gripe #1- the way the railings are set up, it's tough to get a shot including an unobstructed view of the drive wheels.  

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Re: Demolished/Abandoned Wash.DC B&O station - By silver_champion on 09/22/06 at 14:07:12 - '1.jpg' 48 KB
Traninologist is this the station that you are talking about.

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King (Mineral) Tunnel in Ohio. - By crystalsound on 09/22/06 at 11:08:20 - 'King_New.jpg' 73 KB
Hello all!
 
I am relatively new here, though I've been lurking the site, researching various tunnels in Southeastern Ohio.
 
To give some background information:  I am the "Abandoned Train Tunnels" category leader on a website called waymarking.com - which, is best described, as a database of GPS coordinates of various points of interest.  Among the categories are:  railroad roundhouses, rail-to-trails, relocated houses, ghost towns, libraries, and so on.
 
In my research, and talking with people, I have come across a very old photograph, which was given to me by a generous member of the geocaching.com website (sister site to waymarking.com).
 
I'm told this photograph is of the Mineral Tunnel (also known as the King Tunnel) when it was newly constructed in the 1850's.  The photograph came to me, from some geocachers, who basically dug it out of the neighbor's trash.  I'm told that when the neighbor lady died, her family pretty much trashed most all of the pictures, and other possessions.  Supposedly, the grandfather of the son (who was doing the trashing) was one of the builders of the tunnel.
 
The photograph has no labeling or other identification.
 
I've compared this photo to several more recent photos of the tunnel.  Although at first glance, it appears to be one an the same, I've noticed a few small differences:
 
1.  The tunnel is this picture appears to be longer than the actual tunnel.
 
2.  The far portal appears curved, whereas, the actual tunnel has "squared" portals - perhaps this is just due to the fact that the current tunnel is fully lined, verses the picture only has the timber supports in place.
 
3. This picture almost appears to be the reverse (left-right) of the location.  Perhaps this is a result of the photographic processes of the time.
 
 
Any comments, opinions, and so forth are greatly appreciated.  Is this a picture of the King Tunnel, or is it another tunnel.  I've compared this photo to about 10 different tunnels that I have either visited or have photos of, and it does seem to be the King tunnel.

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By Flying_Scotsman on 09/20/06 at 09:32:57 - 'layout3.jpg' 339 KB
.....and a nice out of focus low shot   of part of the goods yard and industrial area (terribly garish scratch built warehouse house that needs toning down) and the start of the upper level which will curve all the way round the industrial area and down through the hill at the end so appeasing my father and his desire for double track operation

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By Flying_Scotsman on 09/20/06 at 09:27:18 - 'layout2-2.jpg' 86 KB
This is what will be the small town at the foot of the hill, just slapped on some base colour here as I couldn't stand that white plaster glaring at me

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By BnO_Hendo on 09/10/06 at 21:03:09 - 'e_unit_0ne.jpg' 177 KB
From another angle.  Life Like made quite a few B&O E Units.

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Re: B&O model railroading- the way to go! - By BnO_Hendo on 09/10/06 at 21:01:40 - 'e_unit_2.jpg' 65 KB
A B&O E Unit waits for the passengers to get on board.

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Re: Sandpatch grade......in Scotland ????? - By davy_mac on 09/10/06 at 06:04:39 - 'Rails_and_water.jpg' 168 KB
same corner ,different view     Davy

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Sandpatch grade......in Scotland ????? - By davy_mac on 09/10/06 at 06:01:02 - 'Rebeccas_beach_and_trains.jpg' 118 KB
Hi Guys,
                 My grandaughter Rebecca' s "sandpatch" on the B&O. ........Scottish division that is in my garden  
   Pic attached.     Enjoy     DAVY


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