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Black_River_Joe
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BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 9:40am »
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The Black River is getting a new engine. It is posted on the corporate website, www.brwrr.com. The engine will be an SD-9 and it has the history of it on the website. It used to be an old Norfolk Southern Engine. Just Thought I would let you guys know.

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Anthony_RMLI
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« Reply #1 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 10:34am »
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That is great Joe! Do you know what it will be used for? If it goes to Ringoes I will have to stop by in Auguest to see it!
 
Picture from the BRW

 
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« Reply #2 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 3:08pm »
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From what I understand, It is to be used for freight service in Ringoes.

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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #3 on: Jun 23rd, 2008, 3:23pm »
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Does anyone know where this is now? I'm pretty sure most/all of NS SD9's were  
sent to Altoona last year, but I'm not sure. I'm trying to figure out what NS train it will come into Allentown on.
 
Mark


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trainspot
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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #4 on: Jul 17th, 2008, 9:10pm »
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Any updates yet? I had heard it left Juniata, but you know how rumors can be sometimes!

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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #5 on: Jul 31st, 2008, 9:44am »
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Its at Camden today!
http://chuchubob.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1261666


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Penn Rail Videos
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« Reply #6 on: Jul 31st, 2008, 10:01am »
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Wow! That engine looks FANTASTIC! I mean; that paint scheme is VERY nice. I hope the track can handle it though.

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Anthony_RMLI
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« Reply #7 on: Jul 31st, 2008, 10:27am »
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LOL,
 I hope so to Adam. 752 needs a new paint job now. 9581 and 1202 look much better then it does in there new paint. Can't wait to see it in Ringoes.
 
Now all of the BDRV colors can be found in Ringoes, Green Red and Black.
 
Boy she looks good
 
Anthony


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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #8 on: Jul 31st, 2008, 2:51pm »
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I saw that engine going south by my fire house in Westville. Nice looking engine
 
BTW, trainspot the engine behind BRW new engine is in westville every day. I comes out of Suncoal plant in Westville. Nice sounding engine


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Black_River_Joe
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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #9 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 2:19am »
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on Jul 31st, 2008, 10:01am, Penn Rail Videos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Wow! That engine looks FANTASTIC! I mean; that paint scheme is VERY nice. I hope the track can handle it though.

 
Hey! Just because the WK&S got a new steam engine, doesnt mean you can think they are better. lol.  
 
This is BR&Ws first Three-Axle Diesel!!
 
The Offical Paint scheme of BRW is now Black and White.


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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #10 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 5:01pm »
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Three axle? That would be a little lob-sided!
Anyway, it made it to Millville today:
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/archivethumbs.aspx?id=22367&Page=9


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« Reply #11 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 5:49pm »
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on Aug 1st, 2008, 2:19am, brw_60_752 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Hey! Just because the WK&S got a new steam engine, doesnt mean you can think they are better.
 
How did we get on the subject of WK&S? I never even mentioned the railroad.
 
on Aug 1st, 2008, 2:19am, brw_60_752 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

The Offical Paint scheme of BRW is now Black and White.

So when they get a new engine painted CNJ orange and blue; that'll be the new official paint scheme, right? If black & white was the official paint scheme; 1202, 8159, 752, and 1850 would be black and white.  
 
Makes sense, doesn't it?
- Adam


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Anthony_RMLI
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« Reply #12 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 6:00pm »
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I think the color of the engine has to do with what it is painted when they buy it
 
1202- Former R&N there engines are green and so it 1202
 
9581- Former NS there engines are black like 9581
 


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Penn Rail Videos
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« Reply #13 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 7:08pm »
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on Aug 1st, 2008, 6:00pm, Anthony_RMLI wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I think the color of the engine has to do with what it is painted when they buy it

If a railroad has an OFFICiAL paint scheme for thier locomotives; they all should match; not all kinda look the same but with different colors. I mean; it's nice to have some vareity, but it then becomes hard to determine the railroads 'official' paint scheme. Maybe they have a specific paint style (like BR&Ws seems to be very Rutland-enspired with the stripes).
 
You also mentioned because maybe 1202 came from R&N its colors are green and yellow. Those are R&N's colors; but not that scheme. 8142 (on the Bel-Del) is in a black & white scheme; but that engine came from CP (like the 8159).  
 
My feeling is that it is easier to keep most of the colors and patch over the 'BLACK RIVER' on the side and the 'BDRV' under the number on the cab. Thus the theory explaining why 752 is red; it came from the C&P in Massachusetts.
 
Any of the volunteers wanna comment on my 'theory'? Is there any truth behind it or am I just blowing steam out of my head?
- Adam


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CR_North_Jersey
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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #14 on: Aug 1st, 2008, 7:22pm »
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I guess everyones memory only goes back to April.  Actually all the engines except #1856 are painted in part or all of the paint scheme.
 
The "official scheme" has been Black and White since 1996.
 
1996- BVRY #8202 ( Orange and Blue) to BR&W #820 Black and White
1996- AMT #780 (Silver and Black) to BDRV #780 Black and White.
1999- CP #8142 ( Red) to BDRV #8142 Black and White.
2003- TM # 853 ( Gray,Yellow,Red) to BDRV 1853 Black and White.
2008- RBMN #1202 (Green and Yellow) to BDRV #1202 Green and Yellow
2008- NS #58 ( Black and White) to BDRV #9581 Black and White
 
Also of note
1995- BR&W(ATSF) #42 Blue and Yellow to BRW #42 Black and Yellow
1991 BR&W #57 Green and Yellow to BR&W #57 Black and Yellow.
 
How the rest of the fleet dove tail into the paint scheme:
 
BR&W #752 was the first Geep purchased in 1993.  #780 was the first Geep repainted, if you changed the red to black on #752 it looks identical to #780.  
 
#1848,#1849,#1850 all came from the GMRC (#1850 was actually GMRC #803 and renumbered back to #1850, its previous # on GMRC).  GMRC, VTR, and CLP all make up the Vermont Rail System, and all there engines are painted the same.  48,49,50 have the same end stripes as #752.  
 
#8159 has the same stripes as #8142 with the exception of the side of the nose stripes are flared out.  
 
It should be noted that all of the above have been done under the current managment.


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de-rail
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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #15 on: Aug 2nd, 2008, 7:26pm »
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on Aug 1st, 2008, 7:08pm, Penn Rail Videos wrote:       (Click here for original message)

Any of the volunteers wanna comment on my 'theory'? Is there any truth behind it or am I just blowing steam out of my head?
- Adam

 
That's pretty much the way it is. The closest thing the BRW has had to an "official" paint scheme is the Black & White thing. However I am not convinced even that is it.  Your patch job feeling is right on the money, and those engines are the ones who need new paint(with exception of the 1202), how ever they have been kept up slightly.
 
My personal opinion is that inconsistency is fine, and in a way the locomotives heritage is represented in the way it is currently painted.  
 
Thanks for that post, CR_North_Jersey, I never quite understood how 1850 came to be.


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« Reply #16 on: Aug 4th, 2008, 8:59am »
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Not for nothing, but if we went out tomorrow and paid to have every locomotive and passenger coach painted in a consistant BR&W paint scheme, the next day I'd check this board and find complaints that we weren't honoring the equipment's heritage or something like that.

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Re: BR&W SD-9 #9581
 
« Reply #17 on: Aug 4th, 2008, 10:27am »
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I think your right Mike.  
 
Some Of these cars have been on the BR&W for 25 years.
 
When we restore #1009 were going to have a decision to make on what the apearence should look like, and that will have to set the tone for all future restorations.


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« Reply #18 on: Aug 7th, 2008, 11:33am »
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Any news on where this engine is?
 
Anthony


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« Reply #19 on: Aug 7th, 2008, 7:02pm »
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on Aug 7th, 2008, 11:33am, Anthony_RMLI wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Any news on where this engine is?
 
Anthony

 
Winchester and Western RR in Bridgeton NJ.  


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