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« Reply #420 on: May 28th, 2008, 1:38pm »
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I thought there was another Steam Engine that was running further north in New Jersey. Phillipsburg?
 
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« Reply #421 on: May 28th, 2008, 1:52pm »
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That's the Bel-Del. While the tracks my be owned by the BR&W... the Bel-Del is a much different operation. It really has nothing to do with the passenger trains operating out of Ringoes.
 
I think Phillipsburg is a little too far north of New Hope to be considered "In the area."
 
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« Reply #422 on: May 29th, 2008, 12:09pm »
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Sucess of the operation really has nothing to do with motive power...its has to do with advertising.
 
I will give a few examples....
 
EBT Runs Steam...the ONLY steam within MILES of human civilization...their operations suffer badly when they fail to advertise....when they DO, often by way of FEBT funds,  they prosper...steam doesn't automatically put butts in the seats. Those butts gotta know you exist.
 
W&W- Runs Both...but let me tell you from first hand experience...All pre floods of course, I have seen them do well with NO steam AT ALL but good advertisement (early 90's) and do very poorly with ALL Steam and limited advertisement.
 
Adirondack Scenic -  All diesel operation....trains are well patronized a good majority of the time....gee, wonder if they advertise well?
 
Oil Creek & Titusville - All diesel operation...again, trains are welll patronized.
 
Cumbres & Totec -  All Steam...they have had crappy years when little money was spent on advertisement.....and they have had record setting years when they do spend money.
 
Point?
 
You MUST spend money on advertisement to put BUTTS in those seats. You can run all the steam you want, but it wont work out unless you spend. Good example of a major failure of this: Mt Hood Scenic Railroad.


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« Reply #423 on: May 29th, 2008, 3:09pm »
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With this advertising and the BRW, they should be bragging about being next to the mal1 shopping center, what ever you want to call it. They have great potential for customers right there in Flemington, and if Lambertville is used again something else. I was thinking the location counts, but look at the East Broad Top and see how they do as posted above.
 
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« Reply #424 on: May 29th, 2008, 4:51pm »
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on May 28th, 2008, 1:25am, Penn Rail Videos wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
The BR&W isn't there to please the railfans. No railroad is out running trains JUST for railfans. They are there to make money. Tourist railroads target tourists or train-riders. Railfans are simply people like us who enjoy train a little more than the average person.

I can go farther then that! Besides your self, how many non-BRRHT members do you think actually ‘Railfan’ the BR&W?  
 
Wow, have we gotten off topic.


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« Reply #425 on: May 30th, 2008, 7:33am »
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on May 28th, 2008, 1:52pm, Penn Rail Videos wrote:       (Click here for original message)
That's the Bel-Del. While the tracks my be owned by the BR&W... the Bel-Del is a much different operation. It really has nothing to do with the passenger trains operating out of Ringoes.
 
I think Phillipsburg is a little too far north of New Hope to be considered "In the area."
 
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its only about 40 to 45 minutes to pburg from new hope,less then that if you have a heavy foot.


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« Reply #426 on: May 30th, 2008, 9:53am »
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Sounds like work is again progressing on #60 and it is reasonable to expect it to return to service sometime this year.  I'm hoping it will be out and running come August (fall at the latest).  One can hope, can't he?

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« Reply #427 on: Jun 8th, 2008, 7:59pm »
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two Big updates, I purchased a New camera, and 60 is in the process of hydro testing. There was water in the tender for the first time in eight years within the last week. Some water still remains in the boiler.
Enjoy everyone.
 
 
 
















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« Reply #428 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 4:08pm »
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How did the test go?
 
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« Reply #429 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 5:17pm »
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Is it just me or do the pictures indicate that 60 failed?

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« Reply #430 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 6:33pm »
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I hate to say it but that seems to be what it looks like Colin. I think your right about when she will run
 
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« Reply #431 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 7:05pm »
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Sorry this is  off topic, but I want to know.  Anthony. What engine is that on your avatar? When did you take the picture? It looks like 142?

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« Reply #432 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 8:20pm »
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on Jun 10th, 2008, 7:05pm, maps53 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Sorry this is  off topic, but I want to know.  Anthony. What engine is that on your avatar? When did you take the picture? It looks like 142?

 Hi Maps,
 
Yep, that is the 142. I think it was taken sometime in 2006. I got it from Colin so I'm not sure. I'll be visiting in 2 weeks so I'll try and get my own.
 
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« Reply #433 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 9:58pm »
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I think she passed. im not sure though. Just keep your eyes peeled.

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« Reply #434 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 11:11pm »
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on Jun 10th, 2008, 9:58pm, brw_60_752 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I think she passed. im not sure though. Just keep your eyes peeled.

I'm not sure if a half-full water glass and water in the smokebox indicates she passed.  I sure hope my eyes are playing tricks on me with the water glass and the water in the smokebox is from the cylinders.


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« Reply #435 on: Jun 10th, 2008, 11:44pm »
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on Jun 8th, 2008, 7:59pm, brw_60_752 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
two Big updates, I purchased a New camera, and 60 is in the process of hydro testing. There was water in the tender for the first time in eight years within the last week. Some water still remains in the boiler.
Enjoy everyone.

A.     Congratulations on your new camera
B.     Thank you for the photo updates.  I like the "Do Not Operate" tag in the first one.
C.     Since the gauges don't have a reading, I will guess that they are not photos of the test, but the preparation for it.  Was this an internal, mechanics only hydro or an FRA hydro?  The Railroad probably wouldn't send for an inspector unless they knew what might need repair first... and repair it before he shows.  
D.     Do you need water in the tender for this test?  Since the tender isn't a pressure vessel, you can't really pressurize it. Was there perhaps a test on the injector, to see how well it gets water in the boiler from the tender?  Was there any low fire or heater in the firebox to raise the temperature of the water to around room temperature?  This makes the hydro results a bit more realistic.  Very cold water will create problems, instead of point out weak spots.
 
I'm just asking to clarify a bit from what you describe, and what the pictures convey.  Thanks again.


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« Reply #436 on: Jun 11th, 2008, 6:03am »
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all I know is that they completed some part of the testing, and they had water in the tender beforehand. some person who was there could tell more.

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« Reply #437 on: Jun 11th, 2008, 10:07am »
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There is no need for alarm.  60 did not fail.  They have not yet done the hydro on her.  I was told a leak was discovered in the throttle, and I believe that can be easily repaired.  They want to fix that and perhaps a couple of other things before the hydro test.  We've all been patient for this long (8 years); a little bit longer won't harm anyone and will be well worth it, IMO.  

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« Reply #438 on: Jun 11th, 2008, 2:55pm »
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LOL! And man was I  worried after seeing water in the smokebox! what a relief!

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#60 back under steam!
 
 
Yeah, way back.  1981, I think.



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