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hummel1237
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #20 on: May 16th, 2004, 12:54pm »
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on May 16th, 2004, 12:03am, nhirr40 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I remember going to 3 bridges with 60 pulling. It was great. I REALLY want 60 to go back into service.

 
One of the Conductors told me they're working on it...
 
Jim...  


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RDG484
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #21 on: May 16th, 2004, 4:02pm »
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on May 16th, 2004, 12:03am, nhirr40 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
I remember going to 3 bridges with 60 pulling. It was great. I REALLY want 60 to go back into service.

 
Not only 60 but the 4666 as well!


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J. M. Fusco
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #22 on: May 18th, 2004, 9:17pm »
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on May 16th, 2004, 12:54pm, hummel1237 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
One of the Conductors told me they're working on it...
 
Jim...  

 
That's great! I cant wait to see that loco go back into service. She's sort sentimental to me. Went there all the time while she was in service. I'm sure I would go back more often if they get her running again.
 


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hummel1237
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #23 on: May 19th, 2004, 1:39pm »
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on May 16th, 2004, 4:02pm, RDG484 wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
Not only 60 but the 4666 as well!

 
What is #4666? Post a pic?
 
Thanks!  
 
Jim...  


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RDG484
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #24 on: May 19th, 2004, 8:48pm »
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I don't have any pictures handy, but No. 4666 is an ex-PRR Doodlebug.  It was built by Brill in the early 1930's and was originally gasoline powered, but it was repowered with a Hamilton diesel about 10 years later.  Hamilton diesels were widely used in blimps.  When I was in my early 20's, I used to go to Lambertville at least one Sunday a month to ride the 4666 to Ringoes and back.  One weekday in the autumn, my brother and I rode the 4666 and its companion cab car from Ringoes to Flemington and back.  That Hamilton diesel really chugs like a Model T!


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chuchubob
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #25 on: May 19th, 2004, 10:27pm »
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Here are links to 2 photos of 4666:
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/30641947/69408491sOxiIf
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/88100332/120095858XVRyPm


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RDG484
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« Reply #26 on: May 20th, 2004, 12:42pm »
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I was hoping you would come through, Chooch!!

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hummel1237
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« Reply #27 on: May 20th, 2004, 1:25pm »
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on May 19th, 2004, 10:27pm, chuchubob wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here are links to 2 photos of 4666:
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/30641947/69408491sOxiIf
 
http://community.webshots.com/photo/88100332/120095858XVRyPm

 
Excellent! Thanks a lot!
 
Jim...  


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J. M. Fusco
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« Reply #28 on: Jan 7th, 2005, 9:12pm »
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Hey...I might stop by BRW tomarow too!

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J. M. Fusco
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« Reply #29 on: Jan 11th, 2005, 7:08am »
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Here's a quick pic I took of the Jack Frost 3:15 departure.

http://Forums.Railfan.net/Images/BRW/DSC00092.jpg
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Strasburg_fan
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Will There be Any Jack Frost Trains for 2006?
 
« Reply #30 on: Jan 5th, 2006, 1:14pm »
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Does anyone know if the Black River & Western will be running their "Jack Frost" trains this winter? If so, can someone please share some information regarding fares and schedules? Last year they ran on Saturdays from January through March, but they haven't updated their site with the 2006 schedule yet, so I'm not sure if they will be running again this year. I may try for a visit to the BR&W (if they are open) on January 14th, so any help would be appreciated!
 
Thanks,
Christian S.


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WMSR_734
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« Reply #31 on: Jan 5th, 2006, 4:10pm »
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I was wondering the same thing myself. It would be nice to see the line past Flemington. Like Chris said, any help would be appreciated.
 
-Colin


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de-rail
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #32 on: Jan 5th, 2006, 5:16pm »
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I  went past flemington in 2004, B.t.w. the photo runbys down there are great ,  what would they be like in snow ,unless we get some I can only dream.

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« Reply #33 on: Jan 8th, 2006, 12:28am »
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on Jan 5th, 2006, 8:45pm, maps53 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Here it is straight from the BRW.    No Jack Frost. Trains 102-109 will run Sat. & Sun. May 1st to October 31st only.  2006- no trains in April or November except Easter Bunny and Santa.  2006 Easter Bunny will run Palm Sat. & Sun., Good Friday, Easter Sat. 2006 Santa will run Fri., Sat., Sun., after Thanksgiving and the 1st Sat. & Sun. of December only.  2006 Memorial Day & Labor Day only. No 4th of July.  2006 train robbery dates are 3rd Sat. & Sun. in May & September.  No info yet on opening of Bel-Del in Spring.  Jim.

Thank you for the info. Such a sad thing. What's next, no trains at all?  The BR&W is taking hard hits by the minute. I hope they return to the way they used to.


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de-rail
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #34 on: Jan 8th, 2006, 12:15pm »
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What is going on with the trains there are less, why?  

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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #35 on: Jan 22nd, 2006, 5:16pm »
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on Jan 8th, 2006, 12:15pm, sgp__Rail_Fan wrote:       (Click here for original message)
What is going on with the trains there are less, why?  

I'll tell you why, or atleast why I think they're cutting back.  
 
The ridership is low, and they're loosing money. They just aren't able to keep up. If they ever get 60 running again, they may see (and most likely will) see an improvement.  
 
Just my $5.
Joe...


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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #36 on: Jan 22nd, 2006, 5:38pm »
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As I understad it, Joe is correct.  
 
When it started in '02 (I believe), the Jack Frost made money, but ridership began to decline, and last year ('05) they lost a significant amount on the venture.  Remember too that the price of diesel fuel has climbed steeply in the last year.  Without the needed ridership, the Frost, unfortunately, became a casualty.
-Charlie


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de-rail
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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #37 on: Jan 22nd, 2006, 6:22pm »
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They would not need to be woried with diesel fuel prices on the pass train if #60 was runing, heak #60 could do fraight too.

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Re: Black River and Western " Jack Frost"
 
« Reply #38 on: Jan 15th, 2013, 10:21pm »
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Sure is nice to look back at some of the old images and remember those times. perhaps a Jack Frost might operate once again? Who knows? Nothing listed on the 2013 schedule.

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