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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #160 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 2:21pm »
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Twenty-six years after the dawn of AMTRAK, the mighty spirit of the Santa Fe still lives on in Chicago......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-chiblg-sea.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #161 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 2:27pm »
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One year prior to AMTRAK, we see PC diner #4623 enjoying a siesta at Chicago.
 
Back in the day, many fine meals were served in this now-classic car, I'm sure.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/pc/pc-d4623cza.jpg
 
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ClydeDET
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« Reply #162 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 5:56pm »
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on Feb 9th, 2016, 2:21pm, L. F. Lincoln wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Twenty-six years after the dawn of AMTRAK, the mighty spirit of the Santa Fe still lives on in Chicago......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-chiblg-sea.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)

 
What building is that. Not, I THINK, Dearborn Station (one familiar to my Dad as the annual convention for the company he worked for from 1946 to 1976 was in Chicago - and mostly went by train, specifically the Texas Chief). I was in just once, 1966, also courtesy of the Texas Chief, on my way to Aberdeen.


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #163 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 6:04pm »
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on Feb 9th, 2016, 5:56pm, ClydeDET wrote:       (Click here for original message)

 
What building is that. Not, I THINK, Dearborn Station (one familiar to my Dad as the annual convention for the company he worked for from 1946 to 1976 was in Chicago - and mostly went by train, specifically the Texas Chief). I was in just once, 1966, also courtesy of the Texas Chief, on my way to Aberdeen.

 
 
Clyde:
 
Like yourself, I have not the slightest idea what building that might be (no location/building name was given, aside from telling us building is in Chicago)
 
Speaking of Dearborn Station, only its majestic brick headhouse survives today; no other trace of rail operations remains.
 
Truly hard to believe that, literally, that ancient, echoing facility was indeed another bustling gateway to our great Nation.........
 
"L.F.L."


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #164 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 6:10pm »
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Clyde/All:
 
From my files, a wealth of photos documenting several decades of traffic and diversity at the long-gone Dearboren Station.......
 
http://www.monon.monon.org/bygone/chicago-dearborn.html
 
(Courtesy: Bygone Chicago)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #165 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 6:47pm »
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Another great page on Dearborn Station; be sure to also check out the classic 1960's SF and E-L photos.......
 
http://www.american-rails.com/dearborn.html
 
(courtesy: American Rails.com)


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Norm_Anderson
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« Reply #166 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 8:20pm »
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on Feb 9th, 2016, 2:21pm, L. F. Lincoln wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Twenty-six years after the dawn of AMTRAK, the mighty spirit of the Santa Fe still lives on in Chicago......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf-chiblg-sea.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)

 
L.F.L. and Clyde,
 
We are a few blocks away from Polk and Dearborn Streets, at 224 South Michigan Avenue.  This was the Santa Fe's Chicago headquarters, and to this day it is known as "The Santa Fe Building," and apparently has made it onto The National Register.  It would appear that there is an unobstructed view out over Lake Michigan from the upper floors.  The Super Chief may have sailed from Dearborn Station, but the decision to launch the Super Chief was made here.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #167 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 8:49pm »
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Norm:
 
Greatly appreciate this info.....had no idea of just what building I was seeing in that photo....thanks!
 
I have long imagined what the railroad picture in Chicago might have been like, if, instead of AMTRAK consolidating all operations out of Union Station, it continued operations out of both DEARBORN and GRAND CENTRAL, even if only for several years.
 
Also, I also like to think that, had E-L's "LAKE CITIES" (HOB-CHI) still been in operation when AMTRAK took over in 1971, the train would have become an AMTRAK train and continued the long and colorful tradition of long haul through operations out of Hoboken.
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Ahhh, what might have been.......(!!)
 
"L.F.L."


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #168 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 9:24pm »
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Five years prior to AMTRAK, we catch a glimpse of SF "Baby" TRAINMASTER #543 switching passenger equipment at Dearborn Station.
 
Note the E-L head-end cars (two still in former ERIE paint) in the background.
 
When this photo was snapped back in 1966, the E-L was still operating two Chicago-Hoboken trains, the "PHOEBE SNOW" and the "LAKE CITIES".
 
The former train would be gone by that fall, while the latter would close out the very last of E-L's through service in 1970........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0543jpc.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #169 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 9:30pm »
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Same engine, same year as previous photo.
 
Note SF coach yards just visible in the right background.......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0543jpb.jpg
 
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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #170 on: Feb 9th, 2016, 9:37pm »
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Norm:
 
This one's for you, my friend......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0541jpa.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #171 on: Feb 10th, 2016, 12:04am »
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In less than a decade, timeless SF scenes at Chicago such as this would vanish forever......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0542jpa.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #172 on: Feb 10th, 2016, 1:03pm »
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Chicago, 1992.
 
The express cars in this AMTRAK consist recall a time not all that long ago, when the revival of express cars brought back many nostalgic memories to those of us old enough to remember the REA days of the 50's and 60's.
 
So much has changed (and disappeared) on AMTRAK in the 24 years since this now-timeless photo was snapped......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk277aga.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #173 on: Feb 10th, 2016, 6:23pm »
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Very early AMTRAK train #22 (ex-RF&P) at speed; note ex-PRR heavyweight head end cars in the consist.
 
Photo dates to 1971.........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-trn22dca.jpg
 
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« Reply #174 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 12:33am »
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on Feb 10th, 2016, 1:03pm, L. F. Lincoln wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Chicago, 1992.
 
The express cars in this AMTRAK consist recall a time not all that long ago, when the revival of express cars brought back many nostalgic memories to those of us old enough to remember the REA days of the 50's and 60's.
 
So much has changed (and disappeared) on AMTRAK in the 24 years since this now-timeless photo was snapped......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk277aga.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)

 
L.F.L., I do remember those consists, when Amtrak tried to augment its passenger revenue with Mail and Express shipments.  These MHC's (Material Handling Cars - - "AmBoxes," we called them) were only one type-- there were also ExpressTrak cars and others (both Boxcar and Reefer type).  Amtrak deserves credit for creative thinking, but function definitely took precedence over form.  I specifically remember the Southwest Chief with four or five of these cars behind the locomotives, then the Superliners, then perhaps a half-dozen more trailing behind.  Definitely made the Southwest Chief look like a Mixed Train.  I have heard that the cars were found to be unreliable at high speed (perhaps causing at least one derailment), and that the revenue stream hoped for from these cars never lived up to the dream.  Esthetically, I was glad to see them go.  But now, thirty years removed, the sight of them is a bit nostalgic.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #175 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 1:38am »
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Norm:
 
My memories of the AMTRAK express cars are centered on Penn Station, Newark, the closest "up close" observation point for yours truly.
 
I remember liking them from the start, as they brought back so many great old memories of express cars being loaded, unloaded, and switched at the E-L terminal in Hoboken, back in the 60's.
 
The old photos taken at Dearborn Station recall that long-ago era, when mail and express was still a sizeable business for the railroads, at least during the first half of the 60's.
 
I recall reading, that SF, (like so many other roads of that time) saw a massive drop in passenger train revenues when the mail and express traffic was shifted over to roads and air, later in the 60's.
 
The late 60's was NOT a happy time for most railfans of that era, whether they hailed from Chicago, Hoboken, or Jersey City.
 
I know....I was there....
 
"L.F.L."
 


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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #176 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 1:44am »
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"......and a work-weary Geep shall lead them......" ("EMPIRE BUILDER",Chicago, 1980, 21st. interlocking)
 
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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #177 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 1:52am »
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"Heritage" cars dominate this Windy City scene, taken in August of 1978.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk518jpa.jpg
 
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L. F. Lincoln
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« Reply #178 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 2:01am »
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This 1985 photo vividly recalls the "AMTRAK 80's" I still fondly recall.
 
The train would indeed be regarded as a "nostalgia" consist in several ways today; also, note the massive, long-redundant REA building ("BURLINGTON TERMINAL") in the background, harking back to a now-lost era in passenger railroading.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk0265tga.jpg
 
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« Reply #179 on: Feb 11th, 2016, 1:08pm »
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on Feb 9th, 2016, 9:24pm, L. F. Lincoln wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Five years prior to AMTRAK, we catch a glimpse of SF "Baby" TRAINMASTER #543 switching passenger equipment at Dearborn Station.
 
Note the E-L head-end cars (two still in former ERIE paint) in the background.
 
When this photo was snapped back in 1966, the E-L was still operating two Chicago-Hoboken trains, the "PHOEBE SNOW" and the "LAKE CITIES".
 
The former train would be gone by that fall, while the latter would close out the very last of E-L's through service in 1970........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/atsf/atsf0543jpc.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)

 
April (late April) of 1966, I left Dallas on the Texas Chief, occupying a roomette in a 10-6 built by Budd. At Gainesville the cars from Dallas were added to the main section and we were off to Chicago. Next morning, "on the advertised", we arrived at Dearborn and I transferred to Union Station via a Parmalee cab, all courtesy of a Travel Voucher from Uncle - I was on my way to Aberdeen Proving Ground to enter on active duty as a new-caught Second Lieutenant of Ordnance...


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