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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #100 on: Oct 22nd, 2015, 3:22pm »
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UP equipment at Chicago, 1972.......from the looks of this photo, it appears as though it were still "business-as-usual" (passenger wise) for the UP......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/milw-slpr-dcb.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #101 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 3:39pm »
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A classic Slumbercoach stands out boldly amid a sea of GN blue (1972)........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/gn-d1252dca.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #102 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 3:45pm »
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A handsome 1972 portrait of ex-IC twin unit diner #4175..........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/ic-D4175dca.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #103 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 3:53pm »
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Majestic BN/GN domes on the move; again, at the time, who could imagine long-distance passenger travel without the magnificent domes that so many of us took for granted.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/bn-dome-dca.jpg
 
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #104 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 3:58pm »
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An ex-SF coach displaying its new AMTRAK scheme (1972).....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk-co4543dca.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #105 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 4:16pm »
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In this 1974 view, we see a train that is entirely AMTRAK, scheme-wise, with no traces of the classic "heritage" colors.
 
A PC box car, in the backgroiund, stands out amid the AMTRAK equipment.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk296abp.jpg
 
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« Reply #106 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 6:56pm »
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on Jan 30th, 2016, 4:16pm, L. F. LOREE 1403 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
In this 1974 view, we see a train that is entirely AMTRAK, scheme-wise, with no traces of the classic "heritage" colors.
 
A PC box car, in the backgroiund, stands out amid the AMTRAK equipment.....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk296abp.jpg
 
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That is interesting. When I was at Charlottesville, VA, at the JAG School,  we had four passenger trains through every day - one AMTRAK, the other three Southern, and the Amtraker was still a rainbow..


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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #107 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 8:37pm »
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To the best of my memory, the last AMTRAK cars I can remember still bearing the heralds of their former owners were a few ex-NP sleepers, seen at Penn Station, Newark (this would have been late 1974/very early 1975)
 
I truly miss the "heritage" days on AMTRAK.......there was still so much rail history to be savored, whether at trackside or on board.....
 
"L.F.L."


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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #108 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 8:47pm »
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Classic NP, 1972.........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/np-L0497dca.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #109 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 8:53pm »
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Halfway across the nation from the great Windy City, we see an ex-NP sleeper at Metropark, NJ, on a chilly, sunny day in 1973 (also note "C.B. & Q." markings)........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/np/np-sleep-kga.jpg
 
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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #110 on: Jan 30th, 2016, 9:03pm »
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A true "Heritage" train roaring through Glenview, Illinois (1973).......
 
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« Reply #111 on: Jan 31st, 2016, 6:18pm »
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on Jan 30th, 2016, 8:37pm, L. F. LOREE 1403 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
To the best of my memory, the last AMTRAK cars I can remember still bearing the heralds of their former owners were a few ex-NP sleepers, seen at Penn Station, Newark (this would have been late 1974/very early 1975)
 
I truly miss the "heritage" days on AMTRAK.......there was still so much rail history to be savored, whether at trackside or on board.....
 
"L.F.L."

 
And a real PITA for the folks running them - "off-line" cars may have had HVAC systems the people on the train (still mostly folks transferred from the roads preceding AMTRAK) jad never seen.
 
Now in 1975, wife and I went (at Uncle's expense) to Chicago from Fort Hood (over to Temple to catch the train, the LONE STAR, former TEXAS CHIEF, Houston to Chicago). All Santa Fe, except the "Bloody Nose" SDP-40Fs on the head end and the Silver Penthouse (ex-Cal Zephyr) bringing up the rear. We were in a bedroom in a Budd 10-6. Crew was apparently all ex-Santa Fe. Hi-Level chair cars, a 1943 vintage Budd 36 seat diner (may have been a Hi-Level up ahead for the coach passengers as well, but I don't think so) that served classic Santa Fe fare, including French Toast for breakfast (recall we were in the diner for breakfast as we stopped at  Fort Madison and then across the Mighty Mississippi). At some point over-night we picked up a Santa Fe office car. Neat trip.


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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #112 on: Jan 31st, 2016, 11:23pm »
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Clyde:
 
I doubt if any of us, back in the early days of AMTRAK, ever thought of a future time when what we were then experiencing would one day be recalled with nostalgia....I know I certainly wasn't thinking that far ahead!
 
I doubt there were many fans of the PC black "dip" that so many GG-1's wore after the PC merger, but, strangely, it seemed "appropriate attire" for these hulking behemoths.
 
This somber black seemed to powerfully magnify the tough, hulking, powerful, no-nonsense monsters that they truly were.
 
A black "G" indeed was a fearsome machine to behold, a voltage-hungry Goliath with a distinct air of menace intermixed with its still-tangible dignity.......
 
"L.F.L."


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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #113 on: Jan 31st, 2016, 11:33pm »
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"BEHEMOTH IN BLACK""........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk910.jpg
 
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« Reply #114 on: Jan 31st, 2016, 11:36pm »
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Trenton, 1975 (note Arrow MU train directly behind the AMTRAK consist).....
 
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« Reply #115 on: Feb 1st, 2016, 3:03pm »
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Ah, the GG1. I never saw them until I was at APG in 1966. Both maroon and Brunswick green were plenty impressive. Have a slide somewhere of a consist  with one of each at Aberdeen. When I was back there in '72 and '73 (late summer), most were in black. Very somber, and hulking certainly fits. I suspect they would have been quite impressive and striking if they had been in gloss black with silver heralds and maybe single broad stripes. Too expensive for either PC or early AMTRAK, I expect.

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L. F. LOREE 1403
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« Reply #116 on: Feb 1st, 2016, 3:44pm »
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Clyde:
 
Given this, I was surprised that ANY GG-1's were ever repainted in a new AMTRAK scheme......and, how appropriate, sadly, when two G's, freshly painted in at somber black, double-headed the RFK funeral train, back in June of 1968 (G's #'s 4901 and #4903 were in charge of the 21-car funeral consist)
 
My mother, myself, and several neighbors viewed this train as it emerged from the Bergen Portals in North Bergen, NJ.
 
A VERY somber train, indeed.....as well as a somber moment in American history.
 
That drab black coat became even more somber if possible), by the time the last handful of G's were operating for the NJDOT, operating between NY and South Amboy, NJ (North Jersey Coast line, ex-NY&LB)
 
With the only "adornments" being miniscule NJDOT lettering (at least their numbers were fairly large), the most somber time in the history of the G's had arrived......the time of their twilight.
 
I still miss those big engines today......
 
"L.F.L."
 
*See this link for the G's which hauled the RFK funeral train in 1968, as well as a detailed account of rail-related incidents on that somber day):
 
http://www.steamlocomotive.com/GG1/funeral.php
 
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GG-1 #909 at Trenton, 1975.
 
This particular scheme certainly stood out from the more commonplace "black dip".......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/amtk909awp.jpg
 
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« Reply #118 on: Feb 1st, 2016, 3:56pm »
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Perth Amboy, 1983.
 
In the twilight days of America's Most Famed Electric Locomotive, their black coats more than fitted the Last Of The G's....one of the greatest eras in American railroading was about to pass into the echoing corridors of history.....
 
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« Reply #119 on: Feb 1st, 2016, 8:24pm »
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on Oct 22nd, 2015, 3:22pm, L. F. LOREE 1403 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
UP equipment at Chicago, 1972.......from the looks of this photo, it appears as though it were still "business-as-usual" (passenger wise) for the UP......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/amtk/milw-slpr-dcb.jpg
 
(courtesy: fallenflags.org)

 
R.C. this is an interesting photo!
 
I notice that these fluted-side, Armour Yellow 10-6 Sleepers are lettered THE MILWAUKEE ROAD.  Fluted-side equipment was not usually found on The Milwaukee Road.  I wonder if their heritage is really ex-SP City of San Francisco equipment?  The 10-6 Sleeper immediately ahead of them is definitely a MILW car (as is, perhaps, the car ahead of that one)-- the rounded "ends" of the windows is a giveaway.  This may, in fact, be an Amtrak City of San Francisco consist we're looking at . . .
 
Thanks for sharing!
 
Norm


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