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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 10/16/16 at 15:55:02 - 'Amtrak_837_on_the_Southwest_Chief_small.jpg' 116 KB
Amtrak train #3 the westbound Southwest Chief has Amtrak #837, a P40DC, upgraded to P42DC specs and Amtrak #120, a P42DC. It has paused its westbound run and is getting serviced in Albuquerque, NM. Meanwhile New Mexico Rail Runner train #512 with NMRX #109, a MP36PH-3C, northbound to Santa Fe is slowing to make its stop. 10/6/16 @1620Hrs.
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Best Amtrak "Workhorse" - By CHESSIEMIKE on 07/02/16 at 21:07:17 - 'BMLP_E60C_6005_S.jpg' 109 KB
on Jun 28th, 2016, 1:27pm, NEFAN wrote:       (Click here for original message)
GE did offer a freight version, but no takers.
Let's not forget the Black Mesa and Lake Powell Railroad. I caught some of their operation in October of 2006.
CHESSIEMIKE


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Re: Best Amtrak "Workhorse" - By NEFAN on 06/23/16 at 16:23:39 - 'Amtrak_F40_200_201_AEM-7_New_Haven_Ct_61281.jpg' 47 KB
For quite a few years the dependable F40 and AEM7 were the workhorses for sure. The F40 was a worthy successor for the E8 and the AEM7 for the GG1. The E60 was a disappointment so it does not really count in my book. After many issues including derailments, E60's were relegated to slower trains and sold off to NJT when the AEM7's began to arrive and thrive.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 03/18/16 at 22:07:22 - 'Amtrak_656_small.jpg' 177 KB
Amtrak #656, an ACS-64 by Siemens has Northeast Regional train #185 southbound well in hand as he slides through Severn, MD at 1105Hrs on 3/16/16.
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: "Chicago Heritage" - By Norm_Anderson on 02/18/16 at 02:35:10 - 'Chicago_Terminals.jpg' 40 KB
L.F.L., I am taking the liberty of importing a simplified map from another thread I posted over on the Passenger Trains board, titled "City of the Big Shoulders."  This map is not to exact scale (but close), and measures about two miles on a side.  It shows the relative positions of the six Chicago depots.  This map is based on a similar map I found in a Santa Fe public timetable for 1948.
 
From west to east (left to right) the depots are:
 
1.  North Western Station, which was the only single-tenant depot in the City.  Traffic departed to the north.
 
2.  Union Station, which hosts Amtrak's service today.  It is a run-through facility, with exits both north and south.  Pre-Amtrak, Union Station hosted trains of the Pennsylvania, Milwaukeee Road (which hosted UP's City fleet after 1955), Burlington Route, and Gulf, Mobile & Ohio.  As I recall, the Milwaukee was the only road that exited to the north, while everybody else exited to the south.  Today, under Amtrak, the only northbound departures are the Milwaukee service trains and the Empire Builder, while all other trains exit south.
 
3.  Grand Central Station was a stub-end terminal with all tracks exiting south.  Pre-Amtrak, it hosted trains of Baltimore & Ohio, Chesapeake & Ohio (including subsidiary Pere Marquette), and Soo Line.  I believe that this was the first of the Chicago terminals to be shut down? I'm not sure where its trains were reassigned-- possibly next door to La Salle Street?
 
4.  La Salle Street Station was also a stub-end terminal with all tracks exiting to the south.  Pre-Amtrak, this station hosted trains of the New York Central, Nickel Plate, and Rock Island.
 
5.  Dearborn Station had the most diverse clientele, with six railroads calling Dearborn "home."  They were the Santa Fe, Canadian National (via Grand Trunk Western), Erie, Wabash, Monon, and Chicago & Eastern Illinois.  Dearborn was also stub-end, with all trains exiting southward.
 
6.  Central Station was used almost exclusively by the Illinois Central (so much so that it was commonly known as the IC Station).  But it also saw some New York Central action (via subsidiaries Big Four and Michigan Central).  This was a run-through terminal, but the only traffic exiting to the north were IC commuter trains.  All the long-distance trains exited south.
 
South of all these depots was a virtual spider web of trackwork and interlockings.  Since almost all the depots exited south anyway, I am certain that the re-routes were not as complex as one might think.  Probably involved simply throwing a few switch levers, and a bit of re-educating of the locomotive crews.  However, since these engine crews were railroad employees, not Amtrak employees during these earliest years, perhaps the working agreements had to undergo a bit of "tweaking."  I'll leave that for more knowledgeable people to discuss.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm
 
P.S.  Based on the positions of the depots, I think it's more likely that the drawbridge you referenced was once used by Pennsy varnish, rather than B&O . . .

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 02/06/16 at 21:10:56 - 'Amtrak_17_Going_Away_small.jpg' 138 KB
Nothing abnormal, just a good engineer making proper use of "Clear" signals!
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 02/06/16 at 21:05:22 - 'Amtrak_17_at_Lanexa_VA_small.jpg' 158 KB
Amtrak train #194 with locomotive #17, a P42DC seems to be in a bit of a hurry on 2/6/16. But what's the rush?
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 11/22/15 at 06:39:37 - 'Amtrak_927_631_small.jpg' 126 KB
Out with the old, in with the new. Amtrak #927, an AEM7 (EMD 8/81) looks on as Amtrak #631, ACS-64 (Siemens 2014) gets ready for duty at Washington Union Station. 11/13/15 at 1815Hrs.
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By CHESSIEMIKE on 11/12/15 at 21:59:21 - 'Amtrak_145_on_94_at_Lee_Hall_small.jpg' 109 KB
Amtrak train #94 had Amtrak #145, a P42DC (Phase 3 Heritage unit) leading out of Newport News, VA on 11/12/15. The train was in the wind as it blew through Lee Hall, VA at 0928Hrs on its way to Washington DC.
CHESSIEMIKE

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Re: "Chicago Heritage" - By NEFAN on 10/16/15 at 09:25:10 - 'Amtrak_UA_Turbo_S_Kearny_NJ_10281_3.jpg' 37 KB
Ugh! what a waste.  
 
Reminds me of the the UA Turbos when they were stored at the end. Kearny NJ. None of these were saved either.

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Re: "Chicago Heritage" - By NEFAN on 10/14/15 at 13:31:14 - 'Amtrak_Turboliner_Cold_Springs_NY_112083_2.jpg' 41 KB
Regarding the Turboliners - New York state was to rebuild their version' but it also never happened.

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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 08/16/07 at 18:37:23 - 'Amtk_936_AEM7_snow.jpg' 169 KB
AEM-7 trailing in a blizz of powder...

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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 08/16/07 at 18:36:11 - 'Amtk_9641_cabcar_snow.jpg' 224 KB
Found an old roll of film and took it to the lab.  Always a surprise to see what's on these things.  Turns out there were some nice shots of Amtrak kicking up snow...yes, snow...along the Keystone Corridor.  I said it was an old roll.
 
I believe these are at Haverford Station.  
 
Cab car leading...

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Re: New Amtrak cars: YOU design them!       - By 765 fan on 06/14/07 at 01:31:00 - 'ATSF_Bi-Level_Transition_Car.GIF' 90 KB
Well first,I would bring this back.This is one of the most unique cars ever made!

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 05/31/07 at 23:08:25 - '07_05-29_56.jpg' 67 KB
Train 69 Adirondak crossing Spuyten Duyvil swing bridge over Harlem River May 29, 2007

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 05/31/07 at 23:06:42 - '07_05-29_53.jpg' 80 KB
Empire Service train 283 crossing Spuyten Duyvil swing bridge over Harlem river on May 29, 2007

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By joneau261 on 05/31/07 at 14:54:11 - 'P5060077_896x672-2.jpg' 172 KB
While riding on board the Western Maryland Scenic Line, the Eastbound Capitol Limited came by. This was taken on May 6, at "The Narrows".
 
Not the best picture, but at least it's there

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By silver_champion on 05/28/07 at 19:47:57 - 'L_87_960x720.jpg' 124 KB
Here is a picture of Acela passing the old Brill Tower in S.W. Philly.  
If you look in the window you can see me taking the picture

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Miketherailfan on 05/28/07 at 19:17:36 - 'HPIM3550_806x605.jpg' 86 KB
Some ExpressTrak boxcars/reefers stored in Harrisburg on May 20.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Miketherailfan on 05/28/07 at 19:15:00 - 'HPIM3445_806x605.jpg' 71 KB
The following day, an Acela Express zip across the Skyukill River as viewed from my car. Although it's off center, it made for an interesting photo in the setting sun.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Miketherailfan on 05/28/07 at 19:12:16 - 'HPIM3373_806x605.jpg' 117 KB
HHP-8 651 sitting in front of 30th Street Station in Philly on May 19th. For those MSTS'ers, this is the same HHP-8 as the default one.

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Re: Amtrak videos - By joneau261 on 05/27/07 at 11:29:47 - 'P5060077_896x672.jpg' 172 KB
The Eastbound Amtrak Capitol Limited came through Gaithersburg, Maryland around 3 p.m. on May 26.  
 
LINK URL
 
While this doesn't show the actually train, the Capitol Limited exchanges whistles with the Western Maryland 2-8-0 734
 
LINK URL

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Strange logo - By sergio_vadora on 05/02/07 at 10:26:11 - 'Logo.jpg' 58 KB
Can you tell me something about the red logo pictured on the side of Genesis 167? Is this similar to Hawatha logo?
CIAO CIAO
 
Sergio, Italy

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By silver_champion on 03/29/07 at 13:57:56 - 'csx_1152x864.jpg' 216 KB
Here is a picture of my favorite Amtrak train. The Crescent passing under
The CSX tracks in SW Philly near the old Brill Tower.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By silver_champion on 03/23/07 at 09:11:16 - '55_1152x864.jpg' 115 KB
I have been coming to Darby Station know for over 50 years to watch
trains. Back in the 60s you saw all kinds of train rolling down the four  
track main line. Today just passenger trains. Here is a picture of  
Acela passing the station. For Acela next stop is Wilmington, De.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By silver_champion on 03/23/07 at 08:57:11 - '59_1152x864.jpg' 164 KB
This picture  to me is one of my favorite picture that I have taken.
I don't know the number of this train. It is passing under the 4th St,
bridge at the SEPTA Darby Station

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Re: Second train, Seattle to Vancouver, BC - By Pyronova on 03/11/07 at 19:45:30 - 'Amtrak_South_at_New_Westminster.jpg' 279 KB
And here is a picture of the current car set, heading south and heading for the Fraser River Bridge (Silver bridge in background).

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Re: Second train, Seattle to Vancouver, BC - By Pyronova on 03/11/07 at 19:43:38 - 'ColeBrook.jpg' 238 KB
Here is the area we have been talking about......
 
BNSF is North/South and the BCRail Port Sub is East/West.  To allow BNSF Coal trains to access Robert's Bank (west of here, and BNSF has hauled a coal train in some time...) instead of a diamond it was deamed easier to have a "parallel" crossing (how else do you describe it? ? ? )

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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 03/02/07 at 17:41:47 - 'Amtk_934_AEM7-2.jpg' 223 KB
I think this may be the first time I've seen the class lights lit on an AEM-7. Of course, this is the only time I've seen one running in reverse .

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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 03/02/07 at 17:40:22 - 'Amtk_9633_cabcontrol.jpg' 215 KB
Found myself with a few free moments today, so thought I'd swing by one of my fave Amtrak spots (Strafford PA on the PRR Main Line) and maybe get lucky.  I was there about 30 seconds when a westbound Keystone (with cab control car leading) came flying around the bend...
-Charlie

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:29:50 - 'DSCF0021sm.jpg' 137 KB
Sleeper Shower

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:28:49 - 'DSCF0020sm.jpg' 144 KB
Family Room - Right

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:28:01 - 'DSCF0018sm.jpg' 146 KB
Family Room - Left

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:26:42 - 'DSCF0014sm.jpg' 152 KB
And Inside...

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:25:40 - 'DSCF0013sm.jpg' 149 KB
Deluxe Room bathroom from the outside...

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:24:08 - 'DSCF0011sm.jpg' 157 KB
Deluxe Room aisle...

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By VentureForth on 02/24/07 at 21:22:58 - 'DSCF0010sm.jpg' 161 KB
The following are some pictures of a 2004 refurbished Superliner.  This is the interior of the car I was in, looking down the roomette aisle.

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Your Favorite Amtrak Train - By silver_champion on 02/03/07 at 11:46:04 - '1.jpg' 285 KB
My favorite Amtrak train is the Crescent. It reminds me of the olden days of railroading. Here is a picture of the train on the Northeast Corridor

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Re: AMTRAK STATION PICTURES - By LandDownUnder on 12/28/06 at 05:06:30 - 'PIC_0012.jpg' 84 KB
Parkesburg, PA
 
 
I don't think many foreigners end up at this station!

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 12/08/06 at 13:36:09 - '06_11-30_094.jpg' 142 KB
Here's a closer look at the front end of the Crescent

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 12/07/06 at 14:15:11 - '06_11-30_096.jpg' 124 KB
Mount Vernon and Kitchie Gammi Club on Crescent; North Philadelphia, Nov 30, 2006

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 12/07/06 at 14:07:36 - '06_11-26_069.jpg' 159 KB
Silver Star at Frankford Junction Sunday after Thanksgiving.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 12/07/06 at 14:00:52 - '06_12-02_09.jpg' 205 KB
Hey Charlie,
 
That was Regional train #155.  I saw it at Grays Ferry Ave in Philly.
 
bob

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Charlie_O on 12/03/06 at 11:16:00 - 'AMTK_651_HHP8_b.jpg' 148 KB
While awaiting the passage of the Liberty Ltd, I caught this HHP8 leading a southbound along the NEC at Norwood PA....


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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 12/01/06 at 21:38:03 - '06_11-30_052.jpg' 132 KB
Ohio River on train 91 Silver Star on Nov 30, 2006

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 12/01/06 at 21:36:11 - '06_11-30_051.jpg' 149 KB
Birken on train 91 Silver Star on Nov 30, 2006

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Re: Thanksgiving 2006 - By chuchubob on 12/01/06 at 21:23:54 - '06_11-26_82.jpg' 170 KB
and another: deadhead move of Keystone trainset in push mode

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Re: Thanksgiving 2006 - By chuchubob on 12/01/06 at 21:17:47 - '06_11-26_78.jpg' 141 KB
Here's another view of the location: Atlantic City train 4615

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Re: Thanksgiving 2006 - By chuchubob on 11/29/06 at 18:55:12 - '06_11-26_73.jpg' 163 KB
Amtrak Holiday Extra 3095 at Frankford Junction

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Re: Thanksgiving 2006 - By chuchubob on 11/29/06 at 18:52:51 - '06_11-26_69.jpg' 133 KB
Train 91 Silver Star at Frankford Junction

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Re: Thanksgiving 2006 - By chuchubob on 11/29/06 at 18:51:17 - '06_11-26_64.jpg' 217 KB
Amtrak Holiday Extra 3154 at Frankford Junction

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Thanksgiving 2006 - By Charlie_O on 11/26/06 at 14:37:01 - 'NJT_1459_Nov06.jpg' 164 KB
Traditionally the most traffic-heavy weekend of the rail travel year, Thanksgiving offers Amtrak fans a chance to see some borrowed equipment from both MARC and NJT venturing outside the normal territories of those companies.  
 
So feel free to post your Thanksgiving '06 pix here.  Both visiting and Amtrak power are welcome.
 
I'll start us off with a string of NJT Arrow III m.u.'s rolling south this morning thru Norwood PA along the busy NEC.
-Charlie


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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 11/11/06 at 17:54:26 - 'Amtk_65_Genesis.jpg' 206 KB
on Nov 7th, 2006, 5:29pm, P+W_bullet_train wrote:       (Click here for original message)
As of yesterday (11/06/06), ALL TRAINS ON THE PHILADELPHIA-HARRISBURG LINE WERE ELECTRIC POWERED WITH CAB CARS!!!!!!

 
 
Let's not forget that the Pennsylvanian to Pittsburgh remains diesel-powered.  Here, a Genesis-powered Pennsylvanian slips westbound under the wires at Bryn Mawr.
-Charlie

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Re: Keystone Corridor ready for 110-mph trains - By Charlie_O on 11/11/06 at 17:52:46 - 'Amtk_924_Keystone.jpg' 214 KB
Old and new on the Keystone Corridor
 
While higher speeds, concrete ties, and welded rail have become the norm on Amtrak's Keystone Corridor, the complex interlocking at Bryn Mawr PA retains its wooden ties and jointed rail, at least for now.
 
Here, an eastbound Keystone (possibly train 662) passes the ancient PRR tower and signals at Bryn Mawr.
-Charlie

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By ranger101 on 11/03/06 at 10:08:33 - 'amtrak-2.jpg' 165 KB
Hello everyone,
     I recently have changed favorite photo spots on the NS Pittsburgh Division.  This morning I caught the eastbound Amtrak leaving Greensburg, Pa.  The lead unit was Amtrak 135.  By the looks of it, she has had a nasty bump of some kind on the nose.  I looked up other pictures of her and she has lead the Southwest Chief on occasion.  Does anyone know if she was bumped recenty?


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Re: AMTRAK STATION PICTURES - By chuchubob on 11/02/06 at 14:47:11 - '06_10-30_15.jpg' 161 KB
Williamsburg, VA; Oct 30, 2006

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 10/28/06 at 22:42:43 - '06_10-25_06.jpg' 198 KB
Mount Vernon again; Silver Star train 91, 110 mph at Princeton Junction on Oct 25, 2006

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 10/28/06 at 22:26:36 - '06_10-27_25.jpg' 81 KB
dented #197
LINK URL

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 10/28/06 at 22:24:10 - '06_10-27_18.jpg' 137 KB
Amtrak and MARC armadillos at Wasgington on Oct 28.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 10/17/06 at 10:31:56 - '06_10-15_28.jpg' 202 KB
Race Street Engine Facility, Philadelphia; Oct 15, 2006

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 10/17/06 at 10:28:32 - '06_10-14_08.jpg' 128 KB
Cab car 9636 leading Keystone train 644 out of Harrisburg on Oct 14, 2006

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Charlie_O on 10/09/06 at 20:44:27 - 'Amtk_662.jpg' 192 KB
Blue banana with mixed Amfleet, doubledecker  consist...

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Charlie_O on 10/09/06 at 20:42:51 - 'Amtk_949_doubleheader.jpg' 183 KB
Doubleheader...

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Charlie_O on 10/09/06 at 20:42:08 - 'Amtk_917.jpg' 184 KB
A few of this evening's catches along the NEC...
 


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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Charlie_O on 10/08/06 at 16:03:45 - 'Amtrak_936_Norwood.jpg' 212 KB
Amtrak 936 blasts thru Norwood PA along the NEC.

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Baggage car on the Piedmont? - By AdrianHands on 10/06/06 at 17:52:04 - 'carolian_at_raleigh.jpg' 27 KB
The Piedmont (73/74) hasn't pulled a baggage car in a number of YEARs, though you'd never know it from amtrak.com, bytrain.org or 1-800-USA-RAIL.  NC-DOT said they'd have a combination passenger-baggage car with six bicycle racks on by August, but I've checked it twice this week and there's no such thing on the train.  
 
Anybody know what's up?


2001 photos of the Carolinian in Raleigh and Aleandria  
Linked Image: http://forums.railfan.net/Images/NorthCarolina/carolian_at_alexandria.jpg

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Re: Keystone electric push-pull - By chuchubob on 09/12/06 at 09:00:46 - '06_09-11_26.jpg' 155 KB
Keystone Service train 647 at Ardmore; 9-11-06

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Keystone electric push-pull - By chuchubob on 09/12/06 at 08:59:20 - '06_09-11_18.jpg' 216 KB
As of Monday 9-11-06, trains 642, 647, and 618 are running with AEM7 929, four coaches, and cab car 9638.  Train 647 was photographed at Ardmore on Monday.

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By Teen_NS_fan on 09/10/06 at 21:56:17 - 'IMGP1625.jpg' 88 KB
An on-time Train 79, the Carolinian at Charlotte, North Carolina.

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 08/25/06 at 18:13:38 - '06_08-25_05.jpg' 131 KB
Princeton Jct; 8-25-06

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 08/25/06 at 18:12:22 - '06_08-25_03.jpg' 134 KB
Mount Vernon was on train 51 Cardinal on Friday Aug 25 taking a charter group to the Greenbriar.  Photographed at speed at Princeton Junction

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By electro_soundwave on 08/19/06 at 06:51:34 - 'Picture_153.jpg' 61 KB
A very late Cresent makes it's way past South Greenville Interlocking on it's way to Atlanta yesterday morning.  
 
 
Greenville, South Carolina

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Re: Amtrak´s Sunset Ltd with dome cars in the 70ie - By Transcon on 08/11/06 at 07:36:14 - 'Sunset_Ltd_at_Englewood_in_June_1978.jpg' 270 KB
Here is the second picture:

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Amtrak´s Sunset Ltd with dome cars in the 70ies ? - By Transcon on 08/11/06 at 07:35:01 - 'Sunset_Ltd_at_Lafayette_in_November_1977.jpg' 129 KB
Here I found 2 intersting pictures with the Sunset Limited in the early Amtrak era featuring dome observations (I belive they are ex-California Zephyr cars). I always thought that the Sunset Limited was NEVER equipped with dome cars, but here I see that he obviously was.  
Can you tell me for how many years this was the case on the Sunset?  
Did it also sometimes feature more than 1 dome car?
And when did the first High-Level / Superliner cars appear on the Sunset and when did the Sunset become a full Superliner train?

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Re: Amtrak urges VT to try smaller equipment - By VentureForth on 08/10/06 at 17:37:41 - 'DMU_Sample.jpg' 13 KB
I would rather ride a brand new, faster, more comfortable train and make a platform change than to ride older, slower, rickity equipment.
 
That being said, I think the purchases are wrong - get three unpowered coaches (one with a cab) and just two locomotives.
 
IE:


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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 07/15/06 at 09:35:55 - '06_07-14_12.jpg' 199 KB
New York Central observation car Hickory Creek (Pullman Standard, 194 was on Amtrak train 69 Adirondak on Friday July 14, photographed at Peekskill, NY.

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Re: High-speed trains: Maximum speed? - By George_Harris on 07/02/06 at 10:27:40 - 'adhesionmphtable.jpg' 68 KB
4.  Finally, the table with conversion to miles per hour units.  Again, the conversion is my own.  You will notice that there is some vary small difference at low speeds between the km/h and mph calculation.  That is because I rounded the constants used in the calculations.  The precison of this formula is such that to use more decimal places just to make the numbers come out exactly the same is not justifiable.  It would make the formula look more accurate than it really is.

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Re: High-speed trains: Maximum speed? - By George_Harris on 07/02/06 at 10:21:43 - 'adhesionkphtable.jpg' 68 KB
2.  Table of adhesion rates in km/h.

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Re: High-speed trains: Maximum speed? - By George_Harris on 07/02/06 at 10:18:58 - 'adhesionkphgraph.jpg' 61 KB
Now, lets see if I can post the adhesion graphs and tables.  I first saw the curve and formula for the adhesion you can consider a safe limit in developing stopping distance in a discussion on the subject that included some information from JARTS (Japan Railway Technical Service), a group that does some truly outstanding research in the area of high speed passenger trains.  Saw the curves and formula for the acceleraion / running situation more recently and in a publication that obviously was not the originator and did not give a source, but I would suspect that these curves also originated with JARTS.  The formula and curve are a "best fit" to experimental data.  In other words, you would see a cloud of dots representing measured points that would plot out close to the curve given when you graph the formula.  
 
I am sure that everyone familiar with freight operation will be surprised at how low these numbers are, but remember in high speed passenger service starting tractive effort is a non-issue.  You have enough powered wheels on the rail to plaster everybody against the car end if your low speed acceleration was at the maximum  power and adhesion would permit, so low speed acceleration is limited by comfort, not power and adhesion, and for the Shinkansen trains this is true up to over 60 mph.  Also, sanding is not usually done, and I am not sure that it would be effective at high speeds anyway.  One more item is the very high adhesion in freight diesels is due to some special controls that also may not be practical at high speeds.    
 
I have four images, and since I do not know how to or if it is possible to put more than one on a reply, I will have four replies.
 
1.  Graph of adhesion rates in kilometer per hour units

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Re: AC bets on NYC express trains - By chuchubob on - '06_05-28_03.jpg' 171 KB
Now, lets see if I can post the adhesion graphs and tables.  I first saw the curve and formula for the adhesion you can consider a safe limit in developing stopping distance in a discussion on the subject that included some information from JARTS (Japan Railway Technical Service), a group that does some truly outstanding research in the area of high speed passenger trains.  Saw the curves and formula for the acceleraion / running situation more recently and in a publication that obviously was not the originator and did not give a source, but I would suspect that these curves also originated with JARTS.  The formula and curve are a "best fit" to experimental data.  In other words, you would see a cloud of dots representing measured points that would plot out close to the curve given when you graph the formula.    
   
 I am sure that everyone familiar with freight operation will be surprised at how low these numbers are, but remember in high speed passenger service starting tractive effort is a non-issue.  You have enough powered wheels on the rail to plaster everybody against the car end if your low speed acceleration was at the maximum  power and adhesion would permit, so low speed acceleration is limited by comfort, not power and adhesion, and for the Shinkansen trains this is true up to over 60 mph.  Also, sanding is not usually done, and I am not sure that it would be effective at high speeds anyway.  One more item is the very high adhesion in freight diesels is due to some special controls that also may not be practical at high speeds.      
   
 I have four images, and since I do not know how to or if it is possible to put more than one on a reply, I will have four replies.  
   
 1.  Graph of adhesion rates in kilometer per hour units

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Re: AC bets on NYC express trains - By chuchubob on - '06_05-28_02.jpg' 117 KB
Now, lets see if I can post the adhesion graphs and tables.  I first saw the curve and formula for the adhesion you can consider a safe limit in developing stopping distance in a discussion on the subject that included some information from JARTS (Japan Railway Technical Service), a group that does some truly outstanding research in the area of high speed passenger trains.  Saw the curves and formula for the acceleraion / running situation more recently and in a publication that obviously was not the originator and did not give a source, but I would suspect that these curves also originated with JARTS.  The formula and curve are a "best fit" to experimental data.  In other words, you would see a cloud of dots representing measured points that would plot out close to the curve given when you graph the formula.    
     
  I am sure that everyone familiar with freight operation will be surprised at how low these numbers are, but remember in high speed passenger service starting tractive effort is a non-issue.  You have enough powered wheels on the rail to plaster everybody against the car end if your low speed acceleration was at the maximum  power and adhesion would permit, so low speed acceleration is limited by comfort, not power and adhesion, and for the Shinkansen trains this is true up to over 60 mph.  Also, sanding is not usually done, and I am not sure that it would be effective at high speeds anyway.  One more item is the very high adhesion in freight diesels is due to some special controls that also may not be practical at high speeds.  
     
  I have four images, and since I do not know how to or if it is possible to put more than one on a reply, I will have four replies.  
     
  1.  Graph of adhesion rates in kilometer per hour units

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Re: Designing the ultimate NEC loco - By silver_champion on 06/16/06 at 11:05:56 - '97.jpg' 236 KB
This picture shows the good old days on the Northeast Corridor with the good old GG1.


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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 06/11/06 at 08:23:08 - '06_06-09_24.jpg' 218 KB
Kitchie Gammi Club on Adirondak at Croton Harmon, NY; June 9, 2006

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 06/11/06 at 08:14:49 - '06_06-09_19.jpg' 177 KB
Mount Vernon and Kitchie Gammi Club were on the northbound Adirondak Friday June 9; photographed at Croton Harmon

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Re: Amtrak observation cars - By Les_Shepherd on 06/05/06 at 02:13:02 - 'Amtrak_Obs_cars.gif' 133 KB
Final updated file attached

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By chuchubob on 06/02/06 at 16:26:53 - '06_05-26_004.jpg' 131 KB
Princeton Junction, NJ; May 26, 2006
Keystone Service train 646
Acela Express train 2153
train 43 Pennsylvanian

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By palumbo27 on 06/02/06 at 14:19:17 - 'autotrn511.jpg' 86 KB
Amtrak Auto Train just as the sun is setting in Folkston,GA.


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Re: Amtrak observation cars - By Les_Shepherd on 05/27/06 at 07:39:31 - 'Amtrak_Obs_Cars.jpg' 292 KB
Details in the attached file have been extracted from the publication From Zephyr to Amtrak by W David Randall, Prototype Publications 1972.
 
It has taken me some time to extract the information from the Amtrak section and to cross check it against the individual companies. I hope; and believe; that I have identified them all. Many of the cars moved through several owners before finding there way to Amtrak in 1971. For example; some of the C&O cars went to Pere Marquette.
 
The compiler has placed the following note at the beginning of the Amtrak section  
 
Source : Office of the Chief Mechanical Officer, January 1972.
Note – Not all of these cars will be in Amtrak service. At publication time they are being refurbished at various builder and railroad shops around the country and many cars will be stripped for parts and scrapped.

 
I have no knowledge of or information of which Amtrak trains these cars worked on or of their ultimate disposal.
 
 


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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 05/24/06 at 14:14:44 - '06_05-18_18.jpg' 204 KB
PV Mount Vernon and Ohio River were on train 91 Silver Star from New York to Washington on May 18.

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 05/24/06 at 14:13:13 - '06_05-18_16.jpg' 204 KB
PV Mount Vernon and Ohio River were on train 91 Silver Star from New York to Washington on May 18.

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Re: Private Varnish on Amtrak - By chuchubob on 05/24/06 at 14:06:43 - '06_05-18_11.jpg' 225 KB
PV Mount Vernon and Ohio River were on train 91 Silver Star from New York to Washington on May 18.

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Re: Was Acela a mistake? - By chuchubob on 05/18/06 at 14:25:53 - '75_01-21_Rad2.jpg' 125 KB
Radnor: Jan 21, 1975

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Re: Was Acela a mistake? - By chuchubob on 05/18/06 at 14:23:40 - '74_10-17_PW1.jpg' 230 KB
Bullets in action; Radnor, Oct 17, 1974

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By 30 on 05/10/06 at 21:08:53 - 'cumb.jpg' 288 KB
Passing through Cumberland, MD

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Re: Amtrak pictures part 2 - By 30 on 05/10/06 at 21:06:41 - 'trestle.jpg' 291 KB
Crossing a bridge just outside of Cumberland MD

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Re: State pays $5.5 million to end Turboliner cont - By laurentien on 05/05/06 at 12:21:55 - 'TurboTrain_Montreal_1973.jpg' 21 KB
The Turbo Liners were rebuilt several times since they were constructed in the 70's. Altough they had exceptionnal features:
- passive tilting mechanisms,
- Talgo attachment between wagons,
- jet turbine powered by UAC proven technology,
they cannot be revamped forever.
 
Maybe, Amtrack should have used the MLW LRC trains which were train sets with active tilting, able to run between Montréal and Toronto at 200 km/h (the fastest diesel trains of the moment).  
 
But, Amtrack is now operating very nice ACELA express and ACELA regional trains sets in New England and New Jersy Transit uses the famous german-made TRAXX. This shows that the USA is moving slowly into the 21th century.  
 
If you want to see a country which is looking backward, look at Canada which has not well replaced the Bombardier LRC trains. In fact, Canada has no effective rail transportation development politics for very fast passenger service between cities like Montréal which could be linked at high speeds to New York,  Boston and Toronto.  


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Pictures from the Meridian MS birthday party - By BNSF_1088 on 04/30/06 at 10:42:08 - 'IMAG0215.jpg' 372 KB
Here is the link to view the pictures from the Meridian, MS, Amtrak Birthday party. We had a really good turnout it just happened that there was a car show/BBQ cook off right at the station so we had those people walk into the station.
 
LINK URL
 
 
Matt Marderosian
Director Of Save Our Trains Michigan/Mississippi
 
LINK URL
 
LINK URL
 


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Re: Amfleet Acela - By sergio_vadora on 04/27/06 at 06:52:48 - 'AEM7_9-2.jpg' 54 KB
Really? WOW, I didn't like them! I like more the phase IV!!!!!
So the videos I've done about the "all acela" amfleet trains are now history........well well well.
Thanks!
sergio, Italy

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Re: Amtrak and PA plan major track upgrades - By Charlie_O on 04/23/06 at 19:02:27 - 'Amtk_mow_A59419.jpg' 235 KB
There was also this hirail-crane combo tied down (literally) at Strafford...  
-Charlie

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Re: Amtrak and PA plan major track upgrades - By Charlie_O on 04/23/06 at 19:01:10 - 'Amtk_MOWtrain.jpg' 222 KB
Easter Sunday saw an Amtrak MOW train (with concrete ties) laying over at Strafford...



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