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TAB
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« Reply #40 on: Oct 2nd, 2015, 4:34pm »
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....here are the two articles mentioned above....Tom
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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« Reply #41 on: Oct 2nd, 2015, 5:25pm »
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Tom:
 
Many thanks for sharing those old articles here; both of them are now nearly five decades old.
 
The commuter rail scene in NJ has drastically changed since those long-ago days; so much that was once commonplace are now rare museum pieces, if, indeed, they still do exist.
 
Without a doubt, the "Boontons" and the "Stillwells" were the most distinctive pieces of passenger equipment ever to operate in the Garden State.
 
I'm thankful for my memories....
 
"L.F.L."


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« Reply #42 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 12:48pm »
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The NYS&W's stolid "Archie" Sillwells had the distinction of serving the road's commuters far longer than any other piece of passenger equipment.
 
The ACF streamliners, the BUDD coaches, and the RDC's (eventually sold to the CNJ) all lasted in NYS&W service for about a decade before being sold.
 
The Streamliners were all scrapped; the BUDD coaches were sold to Saudi Arabia, and the RDC's went to the CNJ, where they provided many more years of service to commuters.
 
The last commuter coaches on the NYS&W were purchased second hand from the B&A and the D&H..........
 
"L.F.L."
 
"Mc WG"


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« Reply #43 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 1:01pm »
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This classic steam-era (1940) image of a NYS&W "Archie" suburban train harks back to the days when such cars were the backbone of the railroad's commuter fleet....
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-s2514bjz.jpg
 
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« Reply #44 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 1:06pm »
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Here we see one of the ex-B&A coaches purchased by the Susquehanna in the last years of commuter operations.
 
This photo shows one of the cars at Little Ferry, sometime after the railroad abandoned all passenger service in 1966.......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw-co00akg.jpg
 
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« Reply #45 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 1:15pm »
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NYS&W's doodlebug #5012 featured a Stillwell-type roof, which made for a very attractive consist when hauling a string of Stillwells.
 
This car went to the ERIE in 1944, after the Susquehanna aquired additional railcars and diesels.
 
From what I last read awhile ago, this hulking behemoth of another age survives at the Ohio Railway Museum, the only surviving example of its type......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/nysw/nysw5012ajz.jpg


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« Reply #46 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 1:25pm »
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Former ERIE/NYS&W #5012 at the Ohio Railway Museum (still sporting classic ERIE dress), nearly 50 years ago.
 
A truly massive and impressive relic of another era......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie5012jpc.jpg
 
 
 
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« Reply #47 on: Oct 3rd, 2015, 1:31pm »
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Back on the ERIE, we see #5012 hauling one of the newer Stillwells at Jersey City (circa-late 1940's)
 
While certainly not of a sleek and streamlined design, this car indeed carried a distinct aura of both great dignity and great power.......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/erie5012bba.jpg
 
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« Reply #48 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 7:12am »
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There are 4 booton coaches in ringoes,NJ on the RIP track  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1139676

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« Reply #49 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 11:08am »
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on Oct 8th, 2015, 7:12am, cnj1524 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
There are 4 booton coaches in ringoes,NJ on the RIP track  http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPicture.aspx?id=1139676

 
 
Thank you for sharing this photo, as depressing as it is.
 
I cannot fathom why such historic cars (the oldest of which being 100 years old in 2015) have been allowed to grow that shabby and decrepit.
 
I grew up riding these cars during the 1960's out of Hoboken, and it truly saddens me to see such historic cars being neglected......let's hope that a brighter future awaits the old veterans.....
 
"L.F.L."
 


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« Reply #50 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 12:36pm »
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"Boonton" car #567 at the IRM, 1977.
 
Car is as it was when still in revenue E-L commuter service; at the time of this photo, the type had only been in retirement for six years.......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/dlw-c-567.jpg
 
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« Reply #51 on: Oct 8th, 2015, 12:40pm »
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Undated (no location given) yard photo showing a wrecked "Stillwell" that obviously has seen its last run.......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/el-yard4.jpg
 
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« Reply #52 on: Oct 14th, 2015, 10:18am »
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In this discussion we touched on what became of the ex CNJ coaches and ex DL&W MU coaches. Many became part of tourist operations and museums with the rest meeting the torch I would assume.
 
NJ Transit stored quite a bit of them on the ex Erie main in Mahwah NJ & Suffern NY in the early 80's.
 
Here are the ex CNJ coaches awaiting their fate...


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« Reply #53 on: Oct 14th, 2015, 10:22am »
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The ex DL&W MU's stored at Mahwah NJ. Quite a few made it to tourist lines.
 
In addition to the Boonton cars, the ex CNJ and ex DL&W mu's have been very popular in tourist service.


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« Reply #54 on: Oct 31st, 2015, 10:16pm »
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NEFAN:
 
Had not known until a few moments ago that you posted these two photos of the ex-CNJ coaches and Lackawanna MU's awhile back....VERY nice photos......thanks for posting!
 
As I grew up with both types during the 60's, I'm glad that a good number of these venerable old relics have survived.
 
However, I WOULD love to see at least one ex-DL&W MU motor/trailer set once again run under wire some day......hard to believe it is now 31 years since my last MU ride out of Hoboken!
 
Time indeed DOES fly.......
 
"L.F.L."


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« Reply #55 on: Oct 31st, 2015, 10:24pm »
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Seen at Mechanicsburg, NY, back in 1985 (one year after they were retired by NJT) we see ex-DL&W/E-L power car #3528 and a sister power car, waiting patiently for whatever the future held........a long way from the Hoboken yards.........
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/mu/el3528am.jpg
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/mu/el3528m.jpg
 
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« Reply #56 on: Oct 31st, 2015, 10:33pm »
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Perhaps one of the most unusual Stillwell photos taken is this 1962 view of the interior of a car that was in the consist of the "PHOEBE SNOW".
 
I certainly have no recollections whatsoever of Stillwells in "PHOEBE" consists, although, of course, I can clearly recall them used in through trains such as #'s 21/#22 (HOB-Binghamton locals)
 
The lack of the ever-present car car ads and the headrest covers were certainly NOT typical of the "workaday" Stillwells that hauled the well-dressed masses to and from Hoboken each weekday!
 
The Stillwells, indeed, were truly the "Jack Of All Trades" on the ERIE/E-L, in their day......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/coach1.jpg
 
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« Reply #57 on: Oct 31st, 2015, 10:39pm »
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Waldwick, NJ, 1970.
 
"Boonton" #583 easily reminds one of a "Wild-West"-era coach as it awaits the next highball back to Hoboken (Is that the theme from "BONANZA" I hear??)  
 
How we once took such classic railroad scenes for granted......
 
http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/el/pax/dlw-co583agd.jpg
 
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