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firstbelt
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« on: Aug 15th, 2011, 11:10pm »
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I visited Wellsboro, PA, hoping to catch ex-D&H rebuilt RS3, RS1, or Alco switcher of Tioga Central on excursion trains.  Instead, new SD40-2 power acquired by Wellsboro & Corning to haul hydrofracking materials bumped the Alcos.  Alcos aren't gone yet.


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« Reply #1 on: Aug 20th, 2011, 7:02pm »
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I'm hearing rumors of track being re-layed out to Ansonia to the area of the old WAG RR interchange so they can off-load drilling equipment there.

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« Reply #2 on: Aug 29th, 2011, 9:54pm »
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Yikes!  A turbocharged SD40-2 on a tourist train?  How rough was the ride?  What makes older diesels charming is the rumble of the old prime movers. The whine of a turbocharger does not bring back memories of the Good Old Days to me, or I would imagine many others. I hope that isn't regular power on the train.

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« Reply #3 on: Aug 31st, 2011, 6:33pm »
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If you don't like the thought of that motive power, don't ever bother visiting the Lehigh Gorge Scenic.  You won't like the SD-50s.
 
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« Reply #4 on: Jul 6th, 2013, 11:10pm »
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TrainOrders:
 
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?2,3119970
 
Three Alcos are in imminent danger of being scrapped. None is in operable condition but any could be a parts supply.  
 
Three are Tioga Central 47, RS3, and Tioga Central ex-Susquehanna 240, an RS1 and Tioga Central 62, another RS1.  
 
All are on the Wellsboro & Corning RR.  
 
If you or someone you know is in position to keep the Visigoths from doing their worst to these locomotives, please do. I will supply contact info.  
 
Two other Alcos, Tioga Central 14, an S2, and 506, a chop-nose ex-D&H RS3 in sorta-Bicentennial paint have also been sidelined, but railroad management wants to get them back into the kind of shape where the inspectors will allow operations.
 
Edit: you are free to circulate this info to groups or lists as you see fit. The wider the word is spread, the more likely these vintage pieces can be saved.  
 
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 29th, 2014, 4:57pm »
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^This info was just a rumor. None of the Alcos were scrapped.

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« Reply #6 on: Jun 2nd, 2014, 8:33pm »
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I was down in Pennsylvania recently, and caught the dinner train on my trip back to NY:
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 5/24/2014 in Hammond, PA.


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« Reply #7 on: Jun 2nd, 2014, 8:35pm »
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A little further north:
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 5/24/2014 in Tioga, PA.


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« Reply #8 on: Jun 2nd, 2014, 8:46pm »
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The dinner train runs past the end of the lake, where the other excursions top. Here we see the train on the side of a hill after passing over State Route 287:
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by Saturday 5/24/2014 in Tioga, PA.


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« Reply #9 on: Jun 2nd, 2014, 8:49pm »
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"Pop up" thunderstorms had developed uring afternoon, and one of them passed over the area. The end result was a nice rainbow, while waiting for the train to return:
 

 
The train is now heading southbound, passing though a cut made by Conrtail in 1977:  
 

 
 
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 5/24/2014 in Tioga, PA.  


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« Reply #10 on: Jun 21st, 2014, 1:24pm »
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I was through the area yesterday and made a quick stop in Wellsboro. I was looking for the RS3U, but it was nowhere to be seen. I did find this SD40 -3 on the passenger consist. The other units were working the yard.

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« Reply #11 on: Jun 21st, 2014, 1:27pm »
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I was impressed with the passenger cars that are on the property.  


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« Reply #12 on: Jun 21st, 2014, 1:31pm »
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Even though I couldn't locate the RS3U, I was happy to see that this "Jersey Boy" is still around.

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« Reply #13 on: Jun 23rd, 2014, 7:59pm »
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Nice shots! Just a guess- RS3u #506 and S2 #14 might be in the engine house, as I understand they need some minor repairs before returning to service.

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« Reply #14 on: Jun 23rd, 2014, 8:56pm »
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I hope you are right Matt. They would look much better in passenger service than the big SD's. I haven't seen that RS3u since it was in the Binghamton dead line in the 1980's!

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« Reply #15 on: Jun 26th, 2014, 2:50am »
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Not even from a rail fan point of view, but as a general customer's point of view...they need to clean up the exterior of their passenger equipment... it's very worn and beat looking - not a great impression for those who'd be considering a dinner train in the future...
 
 


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« Reply #16 on: Jun 28th, 2014, 11:02am »
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Some of the passenger cars could use some new paint and sprucing up - no doubt. The motive power is more at home on the long freights than on an excursion train.  
 
What is the Tioga Central's connection with the Wellsboro & Corning and how does it receive funding?


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« Reply #17 on: Jun 29th, 2014, 9:07pm »
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GROW (Growth Resources Of Wellsboro- a gov't agency) acquired the line from Conrail in late 1992. They lease it to the Wellsboro & Corning RR, which is the freight operation. WCOR was originally operated by the North Shore shortline conglomerate, but it is now operated by the Myles family (30% share) and GWI (70% share). The Tioga Central RR came in as an independent excursion operator in 1994. TIOC's was owned by Jim Meade (and possibly 1-2 partners) until 2008, when the Myles family acquired it. Since the Myles family is involved in both entities, the boundaries are very blurry from an outsider's perspective. The differences are probably sharper when one looks at the accounting and tax records.

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« Reply #18 on: Sep 6th, 2014, 12:59pm »
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Sad news- all of the RS1s (including the NYSW unit) have been scrapped. The parts have purchsed by the AL&L, which also purchased RS3U #506 and S2 #14. Both of the latter units are expected to operate again when they reach their new home, although each will need some TLC beforehand.
 
I did see #506 recently with her new reporting marks:
 

 
There were no excursions that day, so the ocaches were stored on the wye:
 

 
 
 

 
All photos in this post were taken by me Thursday 8/21/2014 in Wellsboro Junction, PA.  
 
 
 


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