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 1   Model Railroading / LiveSteam / Re: Moose Meadows #5, from the Clam Lake Shops  Posted Feb 24th, 2017, 9:37pm 
Response #313 By George_Harris       Thread Started By moose_the_caboose
on Feb 24th, 2017, 3:57am, moose_the_caboose wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Moose Meadows #5 is back on the build tables again.  Work progresses in both Michigan and Florida!
 
Took awhile to heal and get mentally back in the shop, but i wanted to show some of the beginning pattern trials for the cast aluminum engine.  I started this exersize in frustration with the transmission housing.  

Great to see you back!!
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 2   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 24th, 2017, 6:52pm 
Response #533 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_189_1012x625.jpg - 57025 Bytes
January 22, 1957, mile 2.2 Cowichan Subdivision [Photo by Elwood White, collection of Jamie Masters ]
 
The 2099 had derailed at the intersection of Tillicum Rd and the TCH. A shoofly was built to allow other freights to get by while the re-railing and track repair were going on.
On this snowy day, the 2104 was leading it's freight extra past the woebegone 2099, while many onlookers enjoyed the spectacle.
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 3   Fallen Flags / LV / Re: LV Fan Roll Call  Posted Feb 24th, 2017, 7:21am 
Response #125 By jmp883       Thread Started By Flemington Flyer
So let's kick this thread up after a few years of being idle.  I've been on Railfan.net for few years now.  I'm 52 and live in northern NJ.  I was born, and grew up, in Sayre, PA so it's no surprise that the LV is one of my favorite railroads.  I also am a fan of the Erie Lackawanna and the Delaware & Hudson.  I model the LV, EL, D&H, and NYS&W in N-scale.
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 4   Model Railroading / LiveSteam / Re: Moose Meadows #5, from the Clam Lake Shops    Posted Feb 24th, 2017, 3:57am 
Response #312 By moose_the_caboose       Thread Started By moose_the_caboose       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
Moose Meadows #5 is back on the build tables again.  Work progresses in both Michigan and Florida!
 
Took awhile to heal and get mentally back in the shop, but i wanted to show some of the beginning pattern trials for the cast aluminum engine.  I started this excersize in frustration with the transmission housing.  The one pictured below is not the one that will be used.  The ford model t looks simple but...
 
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What I'm showing isn't ready for prime time, but I have always shown my work warts and all.  Below is how the cylinder stack is coming along.
 
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Yes, they are too tall, but l wanted to check the fit before doing additional recessing work and adding engine block nose and tail pieces..
 
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moose!
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 5   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N (SRY-VI) Movement Reports: 2017  Posted Feb 23rd, 2017, 5:27pm 
Response #26 By Goose5       Thread Started By CPRail4744
Returned southbound from Superior Propane with 2 cars. Was not home for the northbound movement.
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 6   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: Meadville Area Opps    Posted Feb 23rd, 2017, 10:02am 
Response #58 By roc       Thread Started By towny72       View Thread with keystone-b-park-infrastructure.jpg - 169978 Bytes
Google Maps/Earth has finally been updated and we can now see the new track installed for the as yet to be constructed grain transfer and milling facility very near the Keystone Industrial Park just West of Meadville.
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 7   Fallen Flags / PRR / PRR Anderson IN Yard Circa 1956    Posted Feb 23rd, 2017, 6:52am 
NEW Post By Roger_Hensley       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
PRR yard and freight station at 5th & Main
Norm Cook photo.
 
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 8   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 22nd, 2017, 7:34am 
Response #6 By HwyHaulier       Thread Started By DubyaM
George - Lodge Members -
 
And, now this:   http://finance.yahoo.com/news/csx-railroads-top-2-executives-173922624.html
 
It appearing the ship tossing over much cargo, and preparing for a huge storm? Ready the lifeboats?
 
.....................  Vern  .................................
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 9   Locomotives and Rolling Stock / DieselTypes / Re: SD40-2s in 2017    Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 8:43pm 
Response #1 By Matthew_L       Thread Started By CHESSIEMIKE       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
It took me a while to bag an SD40-2 this year, but I finally caught one leading a hefty local freight. Number 3511 leads NS H42 west through the countryside:
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0218%20NS/DSCN8650.jpg
 
This photo was taken  by me Saturday 2/18/2017 at Molasses Hill Road in Linden, NY.
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 10   North American Railroads / NS / Re: NS photos 2017    Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 8:35pm 
Response #9 By Matthew_L       Thread Started By Matthew_L       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
three weeks after the last set of shots, I spent some time on the western portion of the Southern Tier mainline.
 
NS local H42 westbound at Milasses Mill Road/MP 387 in Linden:
 
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NS 287 westbound at Spring Road/Mp 389 in Alexander:
 
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A rather colorful NS 309 westbound at Silver Road/MP 385.6 in Bethany:  
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0218%20NS/DSCN8691.jpg
 
NS 28N heading east at Linden Road/MP 385 in Bethany, with Linden Mill at left:
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0218%20NS/DSCN8712.jpg
 
A slide show of all four trains, including the going away shots:
 
http://s857.photobucket.com/user/Erielackawanna/slideshow/2017/Feb%202017/0218%20NS
 
All photos in this post and the link were taken by me Saturday 2/18/2017 in western NY.
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 11   Regional Area Operations / WNYShorts / Rochester & Southern RR crossing at dawn    Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 8:21pm 
NEW Post By Matthew_L       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
When I go to spend time with NS in western NY, I often make a stop in Leroy for breakfast.  
 
The Rochester & Southern RR crossing at Route 19 last weekend:
 
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Breakfast is at the D&R Depot, a former B&O/BR&P station that sits next toth e R&S:
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0218%20Leroy%20NY/DSCN8629.jpg
 
Note the whistle post next to the depot:
 
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All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 2/18/2017 in Leroy, NY.  
 
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 12   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 7:44pm 
Response #532 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_184_1396x940.jpg - 230901 Bytes
on Feb 21st, 2017, 6:43pm, emilydm wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Where did the top layer of crossties (or whatever their bridge equivalent is) go between '83 and '88? There are a few stragglers left in that picture, but did the rest of them get pried off by bush partiers and thrown into the canyon over the course of five years?

 
Spring, 1988 [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
I'm not sure what happened to all the deck stringers, but this photo of mine shows at least a few more in evidence. Perhaps some salvaging was going on in the time period you mention. Prying up those heavy beasts seems like a lot of work for dips..t partiers.
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 13   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics  Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 6:43pm 
Response #531 By emilydm       Thread Started By vicguy
Where did the top layer of crossties (or whatever their bridge equivalent is) go between '83 and '88? There are a few stragglers left in that picture, but did the rest of them get pried off by bush partiers and thrown into the canyon over the course of five years?
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 14   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N (SRY-VI) Movement Reports: 2017  Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 6:40pm 
Response #25 By emilydm       Thread Started By CPRail4744
on Feb 21st, 2017, 6:12pm, Goose5 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
6 cars northbound for Superior Propane. Returned with 3 cars.

 
This makes me relieved. After Superior Propane in Victoria in 2001 and then the 2014 embargo of Top Shelf in Duncan, I always worry when I hear about an engine going out light and coming back with cars. Especially on the island, you never know if it's the last one.
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 15   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N (SRY-VI) Movement Reports: 2017  Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 6:12pm 
Response #24 By Goose5       Thread Started By CPRail4744
6 cars northbound for Superior Propane. Returned with 3 cars.
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 16   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 21st, 2017, 12:39pm 
Response #530 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_182_1396x943.jpg - 262108 Bytes
September, 1988  Mile 51.1 Cowichan Sub  [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
The aftermath of an extremely brain dead grad party, whose members apparently decided that setting a fire in the middle of the Koksilah River Trestle was a great idea.
Thankfully, the big trestle proved pretty difficult to destroy.
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 17   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: Let's see your engines!    Posted Feb 20th, 2017, 7:53pm 
Response #792 By toptrain       Thread Started By MH765       View Thread with Marx_steam_0-4-0t_and_tender_WP_0-4-0t_switcher.jpg - 103766 Bytes
Another Marx 0-4-0 with tender locomotive, is the NYC switcher #20. The rear coupler cover is replaced with one with a pin to connect the tender draw bar to. I have this one and the Santa Fe one. I don't have the  Western Pacific or the New Haven switcher type wit tenders. Still looking for them. I do have the Santa-Fe and NYC switcher types. Because the NYC comes with two different heralds and I have none of the round herald type, it probably comes in both with and without tender. I have neither.  
frank
 

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 18   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video  Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 11:44pm 
Response #1865 By MinionII       Thread Started By cn2220
Great shots of the waterfront prior to the condos going up. All the industrial stuff is gone, and it looks like the work is in process to prepare the area for the condo foundations.
 
Thanks for sharing!
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 19   North American Railroads / CP / Re: CSX on CP main line at Broadview, SK    Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 11:24pm 
Response #1 By kjohn       Thread Started By kjohn       View Thread with CSX_7086_a_x_1.jpg - 93058 Bytes
Nice big engine.

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 20   North American Railroads / CP / CSX on CP main line at Broadview, SK    Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 11:20pm 
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Two big fellas helping on a westbound rolled into Broadview Sunday February 19, 2017.
 
 
 

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 21   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: December STERA Meeting Notes Are Up  Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 9:37pm 
Response #1 By el3625       Thread Started By roc
I think it was pretty short. I went through Cambridge Springs on saturday morning and saw the train had gone through. Later in Meadville, I went down to the yard and saw WNYP loco #427 with 3 tank cars behind it. I thought the same thing, gee what a short train. It is better than nothing though. The crossings in Cambridge Springs on Rt 19 and Rt 86 sure do need replaced, they are very rough. I think they did the one by the feed mill, very nice!
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 22   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 6:13pm 
Response #1864 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_179_698x475.jpg - 51136 Bytes
February 22, 1989,  Victoria   [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
With a PPCLI equipment train on the mainline, CP Rail crews repairing the damage from the January derailment, have a carload of new ties and an empty gondola for the old damaged ones, waiting for the work to commence.
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 23   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 6:07pm 
Response #1863 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_177_775x519.jpg - 52021 Bytes
January 30, 1989,  Victoria   [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
The 6713 was now being enlisted in getting the propane tanker back on the rails.
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 24   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 6:04pm 
Response #1862 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_178_767x522.jpg - 54179 Bytes
January 30, 1989  E&N yard, Victoria   [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
CP Rail  crane re-railing propane tanker that had torn up the track while it was  
in the process of derailing.
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 25   Regional Area Operations / Indiana / Indiana Railroad containers to Indianapolis  Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 5:59pm 
NEW Post By DubyaM
Is the IRR still hauling containers to Indianapolis from the CN out of Chicago?
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 26   The Mainline / concourse / Re: Train wreck in Texas  Posted Feb 19th, 2017, 5:47pm 
Response #4 By CliftonRailMuseum       Thread Started By KingCoal
Gig Em'  !!!
 
Clifton, Texas is dedicating a restoration of the old Santa Fe (GC&SF originally) depot and a railroad museum within it on May 6th. More info in "Preservation" forum.
 
Join us !!!
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 27   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 18th, 2017, 4:33pm 
Response #5 By George_Harris       Thread Started By DubyaM
In previous years the American Railway Engineering Association published rail and tie installations for the Class 1 railroad companies.  They carried the tie statistics to the point of giving ties installed per mile of track.  Looking at those numbers gave a fairly good quick and dirty look at whether or not a railroad was keeping up with, getting ahead of or losing ground on their maintenance needs.  
 
Ties:  The number of ties per mile for wood ties is in the range of 3,000 per mile.  The functional life of a creosoted wood tie is on average about 30 years.  Less in heavily curved territory, and very high trafficked lines, and more in moderate and low traffic lines in drier climates, but 30 years is a reasonably good US average number.  Hence, a company needed to install around 100 ties per mile per year to stay even.  The western dry climate roads like could get away with some less.
 
Rail:  When looking at track of all kinds, and given that with jointed rail it may be moved at least twice before being scrapped, rail could be considered good for up to 100 years total.  
 
It has been said that, you are going to pay for good track maintenance, the question is how.  Either you will choose to do it, or you will be spending the money on picking up derailments.  
 
Thus, no matter what noises were made about how great a company was doing, if when you looked at these numbers, if you saw a consistent pattern of tie installation of much under 100 ties per mile, cash out, because the chickens are going to come home to roost someday.  Union Pacific was somewhat of an exception in those days, as their numbers were around 80, but I think a combination of climate and paying careful attention to all aspects of maintenance they could get away with it.  As an aside, UP was the about the last, if not the last major road to decide to go to welded rail.
 
During the Brosnan era, Southern was installing somewhere around 130 to 140 ties per mile per year, the L&N about 80 and SAL ACL around the same.  ICRR was less.  If I remember right, CRIP was down around somewhere around 30.
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 28   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 18th, 2017, 2:49pm 
Response #4 By HwyHaulier       Thread Started By DubyaM
townty72 - Lodge Members -
 
Until not all that time back, WBAL (Baltimore) with an excellent, and very thoughtful talk radio guy. In your instant here,  
hints at systems entropy theory. It may remind what book you noted...
 
Here earlier, the convenient example of the ROCK ISLAND debacle. Fits the profile you noted. The line long promoted  
its "ROCKET" passenger services. The RI noted for its higher speed rated trunk lines. Here, much later, and an item in  
Trains wherein the premier CGO - Denver line down to 20-  25 mph in running thru Moline and Quad Cities...
 
......................  Vern  ..............
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 29   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 18th, 2017, 11:56am 
Response #3 By towny72       Thread Started By DubyaM
This inherently is a part of a much larger issue.  
 
I wish I can remember the name or the book that was required reading way back in the day. The base of the book is how for a business there is a point were you can no longer naturally continue to improve/impress investors and the business starts to consume itself much like the body will do on extreme diets.  Railroads have operating expenses, to continue to gain investor interest you have to continue to increase profits. Easiest way is to haul more freight, but there comes a point where you cant grow much more. Then you have to become more efficient at the freight you move. IE Longer trains, less crew, better motive power. Then comes the next phase, closing facilities, laying off or in the near future eliminating people (crew-less trains).  Mr. Harrison is great at the latter, he will trim the fat, then start to trim some of the muscle all while having strong quarterly reports, which increases investor interest.  
 
At some point the company reaches a tipping point, then no matter what it does it can not continue to impress investors. This leaves the company dangerously exposed to take overs.  CN, CP, UP, BNSF will all be watching....  
 
 
Underlying here is a non-railroad issues. In America we still have not changed the way we think, but businesses are looking for ways to improve profit. With the technological boom we are seeing the easiest way and that is to is get rid of the largest expense - Employees. Antonymous everything, its coming and coming fast.  We are seeing it already, and lobbyist (companies) are pushing it hard under the mask of "safety" Trucks, trains, cars, and factory equipment will soon be basically running itself.  But nobody is asking what are we going to do with all the people that no longer have anything to do?
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 30   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 18th, 2017, 8:40am 
Response #2 By HwyHaulier       Thread Started By DubyaM
George - Lodge Members -
 
Thanks! May your writer infer the "H.H." management with lessons from the wreck of the old ROCK ISLAND? We may all recall,  
too, more recent events wherein a better name might have included,  Railroad, Salvage And Wrecking Company? By now, you  
surely recall concerns about sorry events on certain Southern States trunk lines.
 
Mr. DWB, of SOUTHERN SYSTEM. Your writer was with them at Washington DC GHQ when "Mr. Brosnan" active. He was a real  
piece of work; there have been accounts in Trains magazine. He surely did know how to build, upgrade and repair lines of railroad!  
 
(Related. "Mr. Perlman" another hard driving guy, good at making order out of chaos. He did the DRG&W miracle, as well as much  
other work. See Trains.)
 
SIGH! All so long  ago...
 
........................  Vern  ..........................
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 31   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / December STERA Meeting Notes Are Up  Posted Feb 18th, 2017, 8:06am 
NEW Post By roc
I would love to catch a Falconer to Meadville trains. Any help? The crossings in Corry on Friday looked freshly furrowed, but I'd guess the train was quite short.
 
"Service levels: Falconer to Meadville service has been restored to biweekly service (currently running weekly).  
 
"Olean to Hornell service is operated less than once per week as needed.  
 
"Olean to Falconer is operated regularly once per week. Olean to Machias service has been restored for ballast trains, with weekly service. In Pennsylvania, service is provided to Driftwood on a weekly basis, with Olean to Port Allegany being operated on a daily basis."
 
http://www.ccasstera.org/htm/document%20to%20be%20discussed/2016%20pdfs/Dec5/December%205%202016%20Board%20Minutes.pdf
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 32   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 7:13pm 
Response #529 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_174_700x470.jpg - 30286 Bytes
March 30, 1988, Cowichan Bay {mile 7.3, Tidewater Sub } [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
GMD1 1000 is pushing the last loads and empties towards the waiting rail barge at CN's Cowichan Bay rail slip. By mid afternoon, everything was loaded and CN's presence in the Cowichan Valley was now but a memory.
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 33   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 7:07pm 
Response #528 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_175_1067x716.jpg - 83294 Bytes
March 30, 1988, mile 3.1[approx] Tidewater Subdivision [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
For the last time, CN GMD1 1000 will be crossing Langtry Rd in Duncan's Glenora district.
The engine is heading Northward [by timetable direction] to Cowichan Bay where it gather the remaining cars, and it and CN will leave the Island for good.
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 34   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N (SRY-VI) Movement Reports: 2017  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 6:18pm 
Response #23 By Goose5       Thread Started By CPRail4744
Light engines northbound for Superior Propane. Returned with 2 cars.
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 35   North American Railroads / CN / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 1:29pm 
Response #1 By George_Harris       Thread Started By DubyaM
See towny72's answer on the CP forum.
 
Added to that, it seems that his concept on track maintenance is to stay just inside the FRA limits.  Recall that the FRA limits are SAFETY limits, not comfort or ride quality.  Based on what is being said by riders on the City of New Orleans, the ride quality can best be described as exciting.  Using these standards as your maintenance targets shortens the life of both equipment and track components, not good long term thinking.
 
Letting track get into this condition is short term thinking, which is good for the investors that think in terms of making a quick killing and getting out before the chickens come home to roost.  Since wood ties have a useful life of at least 30 years if given good preservative treatment and even 20 plus if given enough treatment that they look good, and rail lasts even longer, you can minimize maintenance for several years making your bottom line look good before you have to get out of town.  This appears to be what has been done under his management.
 
What CSX seems to really need is a change in mindset to one that builds up the facilities for improved quality and long term reliability, not milk it for short term benefit.  A good example would be what Brosnan did for Southern.  Some people that worked for them at the time commented that the man had a streak of pure meanness, but he did seem to have the long term condition of Southern in his mind.  One obvious example would be when we hear of the major effort to improve clearances for double stack, you don't hear of any Southern lines being on the list.  Why?  Because when the need came for tunnel clearance improvements for tri-level auto carriers and piggybacks, his response was to go for largest likely to ever occur, and if you read in the Southern magazines that can be found on line, that meant 30 feet above the rail and 20 feet wide, 12 one way and 8 the other.  I suspect that the high overhead clearance may have had room for future electrification in it as well.  Short term bean counters would never have allowed that to happen.
 
From what I see elsewhere about the income package he wants, I don't see how any set of directors could approve it.
 
If you have money is CSX and they take on Harrison, the best thought would be to take you best guess as to when the honeymoon period would be over, cash out at that point and run.
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 36   North American Railroads / CP / Re: Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 12:10pm 
Response #1 By towny72       Thread Started By DubyaM
Ask all the men and women who lost there jobs.  
 
People at CN will tell you the same thing. He is great for investors, hard on the workers.  
 
 
 
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 37   Regional Area Operations / BC / Re: CN Okanagan Subdivision  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 11:46am 
Response #694 By MinionII       Thread Started By CPRail4744
Great winter shots Matt.
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 38   The Mainline / Preservation / Clifton, Texas restores ATSF depot and opens museum    Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 10:24am 
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The City of Clifton (Texas) is repairing and restoring the passenger end of the old ATSF (nee Gulf, Colorado & Santa Fe) railroad depot and is opening a new railroad museum in the depot building. The dedication and grand opening ceremony are schedule for 1:30pm on Saturday, May 6th.
 
The northbound Amtrak Texas Eagle will make a scheduled stop in Clifton to add to the celebration at approximately 12:30pm on its run from San Antonio to Chicago. This will be the first scheduled stop of a passenger train in Clifton since the early years of the Texas Chief in the late 1940s and early 1950s.
 
The City has accumulated a significant collection of ATSF and other railroad artifacts dating back to the late 1800's thru the 1980's. The museum will be one of the very best small station museums in the country including a substantial railroad book and media reference library.
 

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 39   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: Let's see your engines!    Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 9:19am 
Response #791 By toptrain       Thread Started By MH765       View Thread with IMG_7976_-_Copy.jpg - 77286 Bytes
My new to me Hornby Electric. "Electra"  BR Rails.  
frank
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 40   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: HO cars 1950's-1960's, with 30's and 40's thrown in.    Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 7:24am 
Response #366 By toptrain       Thread Started By toptrain       View Thread with IMG_7986_M.jpg - 102597 Bytes
Today i'mm posting some 1950's HO DC equipment. The locomotive is made by Fleischmann in Western Germany. The 3 cars are made in Eastern Germany by PECO. They get together in this photo.  
* Fleischmann is a 0-6-0t #1320, 80 class, 1952. 80-1952 is on the cab side and front number board. 1320 is just on the cab side
* I added a crate and a container from this country.  
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 41   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 2:07am 
Response #527 By MinionII       Thread Started By vicguy
That's a great shot Jamie.
 
I wonder if any of the residents along the lakeside were sad to see an end to the trains running essentially through their yards...
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 42   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures  Posted Feb 17th, 2017, 1:22am 
Response #211 By roc       Thread Started By towny72
Great find and it's good to learn something new.
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 43   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: CN pics    Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 8:31pm 
Response #526 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By vicguy       View Thread with Scan_173_1060x706.jpg - 150841 Bytes
March 27, 1988, mile 81 Cowichan Subdivision  [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
CN GMD1 1000 is nearing Youbou on this beautiful early Spring day. This would be the last run ever, westbound out've Deerholme. On March 30th, the 1000 and CN would depart the Cowichan Valley forever.
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 44   Regional Area Operations / CNY / Re: Ontario Midland    Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 8:15pm 
Response #55 By Matthew_L       Thread Started By Matthew_L       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
My most recent visit to the OMID yard indicated there has been an uptick in traffic.
 
Boxcars next to the engine house and depot:  
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0211%20Sodus%20NY/DSCN8559.jpg
 
 
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0211%20Sodus%20NY/DSCN8561.jpg
 
Reefers at Great Lakes Cold Storage:
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0211%20Sodus%20NY/DSCN8570.jpg
 
 
 
Linked Image:  http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab139/Erielackawanna/2017/Feb%202017/0211%20Sodus%20NY/DSCN8579.jpg
 
All photos in this post were taken by me Saturday 2/11/2017 in Sodus, NY.
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 45   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures  Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 8:03pm 
Response #210 By centercab       Thread Started By towny72
Thank you for the direction. Sad to see no trace of the B&S. Time moves on and the landscape changes with it.
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 46   North American Railroads / CP / Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 2:43pm 
NEW Post By DubyaM
How was it under Harrison's leadership?
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 47   North American Railroads / CN / Hunter Harrison  Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 2:41pm 
NEW Post By DubyaM
How was it under Harrison's leadership?
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 48   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures  Posted Feb 16th, 2017, 11:42am 
Response #209 By vtm       Thread Started By towny72
Bridge in the background would be the old RT 19.
 
42.252134, -78.058027
 
https://www.google.com/maps/place/42%C2%B015'07.7%22N+78%C2%B003'28.9%22W/@42.2519282,-78.0601954,506m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x0:0x0!8m2!3d42.252134!4d-78.058027?hl=en
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 49   Fallen Flags / CNJ / Re: Exploring the Southern Division (Blue Comet)    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 10:50pm 
Response #291 By TOMSTV       Thread Started By njvike       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
Linked Image:  http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/TOMSTV1/RR%20SOUTH/DSC02424_zpswl0ptox5.jpg
Seen a high rail dump truck south of Union ave., dropping off new ties.
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 50   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 9:34pm 
Response #1861 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_170_937x622.jpg - 46692 Bytes
June 20, 1991, 10.10 am, Mile 14, Victoria Sub  [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
Extra 8236 North's  vegetation  control "steam train" is backing over the Niagara Bridge, heading for mile 14.83 to begin that day's work, southwards towards Victoria as Work Extra 8236.
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 51   Fallen Flags / CNJ / Re: Exploring the Southern Division (Blue Comet)  Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 8:26pm 
Response #290 By JrzWalker86       Thread Started By njvike
That bridge as well as the others between Union Avenue Lakehurst and north to Whitesville Road were redone over the past few years.
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 52   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures  Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 5:18pm 
Response #208 By centercab       Thread Started By towny72
Great find VTM! The height of the bridge would indicate another abutment might have been located to the rear (camera) side of the remains in the modern photo supporting the open trestle side of the overpass. I have seen several B&S overpasses along the line through Pennsylvania and New York state. Obviously they did not care for grade level crossings if they could avoid it.
Any idea what used the girder supported bridge in the background? If I could get the exact location or coordinates it might be interesting to see on google earth.
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 53   Fallen Flags / CNJ / Re: Exploring the Southern Division (Blue Comet)    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 4:53pm 
Response #289 By TOMSTV       Thread Started By njvike       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
Linked Image:  http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac154/TOMSTV1/RR%20SOUTH/DSC02422_zpsuj3bos6o.jpg
Still not connected at Lakehurst bridge NJ.
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 54   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N (SRY-VI) Movement Reports: 2017  Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 4:09pm 
Response #22 By Goose5       Thread Started By CPRail4744
2 cars northbound for Superior Propane. Returned with 2 cars.
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 55   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 3:14pm 
Response #207 By vtm       Thread Started By towny72       View Thread with Erie_Belvidere_NY_ELHS_under_BS.jpg - 40077 Bytes
B&S crossed overhead at this location
 
VTM
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 56   The Mainline / concourse / Re: Fallen Flags - George Elwood Work - Update  Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 11:33am 
Response #2 By HwyHaulier       Thread Started By HwyHaulier
Norm - Lodge Members -
 
Many Thanks! And Thank Heaven!
 
In checking my work, now note the site address used incorrect. It is a great relief to see the site remains in place. So my earlier query incorrect...
 
.....................  Vern  ...................................
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 57   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 12:44am 
Response #1860 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_168_708x467.jpg - 53122 Bytes
October 11, 1991  10.15 am  Mile 35.5 Victoria Sub [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
The tail end of Extra 8236 North is seen running past Cowichan Station on this perfect Autumn
morning.
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 58   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 12:38am 
Response #1859 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_167_701x471.jpg - 49346 Bytes
October 11, 1991  9.08 am  Mile 10.8 Victoria Sub [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
Extra 8236 North is crossing Humpback Rd with the vegetation control "steam train", bound for Wellcox on this beautiful Fall morning.
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 59   Regionals and Short Lines / WNYP / Re: B&H, LA&L, WNYP Pictures  Posted Feb 15th, 2017, 12:34am 
Response #206 By roc       Thread Started By towny72
I searched for more than an hour and couldn't find it. There are so many amateur photo and history sites that I can't recall and that don't get updated (i.e. poor chance of showing up in Google or sites with crap search like Yahoo, Facebook, or this site for that matter).
 
1k attaboys to the intrepid foamer that can track it down.
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 60   The Mainline / concourse / Re: Fallen Flags - George Elwood Work - Update  Posted Feb 14th, 2017, 7:18pm 
Response #1 By Norm_Anderson       Thread Started By HwyHaulier
Hi, Vern,
 
Good news, I think it's still there.
 
 
www.rr-fallenflags.org
 
 
It would be a tremendous loss if this vast body of work were lost.
 
 
Regards,
 
Norm
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 61   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video  Posted Feb 14th, 2017, 5:59pm 
Response #1858 By vicguy       Thread Started By cn2220
on Feb 13th, 2017, 12:54pm, Goose5 wrote:       (Click here for original message)
Great photos Jamie. Keep them coming. I remember thinking when I was taking photos around Victoria in the 1980's that what I was seeing would keep going forever.

 
I agree with all of this!
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 62   Fallen Flags / PRR / Re: 10/1/1956 Richmond Indiana  Posted Feb 14th, 2017, 1:19pm 
Response #2 By HwyHaulier       Thread Started By Roger_Hensley
Roger - Henry- Lodge Members -
 
For those who are "tech junkies" about steam locomotive engineering, this suggested Reading: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belpaire_firebox
 
It is too late to get thinking of the P R R design team about issues including why a Belpaire design not used on the J-1 types. Inferences  
about the Wiki item? The railroad attracted to a less costly build for firebox and boiler compared with Belpaire. Another inference? Kind and  
quality of preferred coal?
 
The number plate? That one appears easy. The J-1 power with the Passenger Dept. identity. So to infer? J-1 types designed for heavy  
trains of Mail and Express? Possibly Fast Merchandise movements (which more likely a Freight Dept. demand)?
 
.....................  Vern  ....................
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 63   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video  Posted Feb 14th, 2017, 12:32pm 
Response #1857 By MinionII       Thread Started By cn2220
on Feb 12th, 2017, 3:32pm, Jamie_Masters wrote:       (Click here for original message)
December 1, 1989, mile 26.8 Victoria Sub, [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
CP Extra 3000 North crossing above Shawingan Lake Rd.

 
Looks like the freight has 4 locos! I see 2 geep cabs facing left, the switcher behind them, so there must be one geep facing right on the headend, unless they were running long hood forward or the switcher is actually leading the train.
 
Thanks for sharing, and keep them coming!
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 64   North American Railroads / CSX / Re: CSX Sightings / Discussion 2017    Posted Feb 14th, 2017, 9:05am 
Response #20 By co_riff       Thread Started By YeOldeEnjine       Linked Image Included, Click Here to View Entire Post
EMD's on the Ohio River Sub at Point Pleasant,WV on the Q-317.
 
Linked Image:  http://www.trainboard.com/highball/index.php?media/dpp_0056.129328/full&d=1487080887
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 65   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video  Posted Feb 13th, 2017, 12:54pm 
Response #1856 By Goose5       Thread Started By cn2220
Great photos Jamie. Keep them coming. I remember thinking when I was taking photos around Victoria in the 1980's that what I was seeing would keep going forever.
 
Dave
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 66   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 12th, 2017, 3:32pm 
Response #1855 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_162_1047x655.jpg - 70281 Bytes
December 1, 1989, mile 26.8 Victoria Sub, [Photo by Jamie Masters ]
 
CP Extra 3000 North crossing above Shawingan Lake Rd.
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 67   Fallen Flags / PRR / Re: 10/1/1956 Richmond Indiana  Posted Feb 12th, 2017, 12:20pm 
Response #1 By Henry       Thread Started By Roger_Hensley
Isn't she a handsome brute! I just love the J1's. I wish a reasonably priced N scale model was made.
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 68   Fallen Flags / PRR / 10/1/1956 Richmond Indiana    Posted Feb 12th, 2017, 8:35am 
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PRR 6468 Eastbound on the Pittsburgh-St Louis Main Line
While waiting for the day passenger train for a return inspection trip back to his home base in Anderson, IN, my father, who was track supervisor on the PRR's Richmond Branch snapped this slide of a Pennsy Class J-1 behemoth. The J-1 class was Juniata built, but copied from a C&O design. It lacks the belpaire firebox / boiler commonly found on other PRR steam locomotives, and sports a keystone smokebox number plate instead of the round number plates found on most other classes of PRR freight locomotives. According to Dad, the J-1 was a water hog; even with that big tender, it had to be watered frequently. Dad also said the J-1 class tended to stay on PRR Lines West in the twilight years of Pennsy steam. All Pennsy J-1's were scrapped; none survive.
Photo by Maynard Krug - Bob Krug Collection
 
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 69   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 7:34pm 
Response #1854 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_160_698x442.jpg - 35010 Bytes
April, 1991, E&N Vic West yard [Photo by Jamie Masters]
 
The buoys are back in town  Two carloads of buoys await unloading in the yard, back in the day when freight into Victoria wasn't a dirty word.
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 70   Regional Area Operations / Vancouver / Re: E&N/SVI photos and video    Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 5:25pm 
Response #1853 By Jamie_Masters       Thread Started By cn2220       View Thread with Scan_159_701x465.jpg - 50337 Bytes
September 26, 1991, Victoria [Photo by Jamie Masters]
 
A flat car with a hydro transformer sits opposite the Via station, waiting for a crew to  
transfer it to the waiting lowboy truck trailer. Amazing to think everything in that photo is gone.
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 71   Fallen Flags / NYCS / Re: Warren Switch Run  Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 1:45pm 
Response #2 By Lfire83       Thread Started By Roger_Hensley
The old DAV&P subsidiary.... an interesting line. I think there's a thread on the forums about it somewhere, but any more pics or info on it is welcome. It's amazing all the big players in the area building to get to the Oil City area, with almost all of it gone now.
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 72   The Mainline / concourse / Fallen Flags - George Elwood Work - Update  Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 9:07am 
NEW Post By HwyHaulier
Lodge Members -  
 
Much distressed, yesterday, the George Elwood, FALLENFLAGS.ORG site not available. One gets a web page offering all of it for sale. Had not seen any current info here...
 
........................  Vern  .......................
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 73   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: UPCOMING " Model Railroad Events "  Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 5:56am 
Response #46 By toptrain       Thread Started By toptrain
A show I like to attend is the Waype PAL train show  
 
Sun, 4/9/2017 -  
   
 Categories  
  Model Railroad, Operating Exhibit, Railroad Memorabilia, Swap Meet, Toy Train / Collectible Show, Train Show and Sale  
   
 Location  
  WAYNE PAL HALL  
  1 PAL DRIVE  
  WAYNE, NJ 07470  
 United States  
   
 Times  
  9AM-2PM  
   
 Admission Fees  
  ADULTS $6.00-CHILDREN 10 AND UNDER ADMITTED FREE WITH PARENT  
   
 Description  
  TOY TRAIN SHOA AND SALE-ALL GAUGES-APPRAISALS-TRAIN PARTS-TEST TRACK-TRAIN REPAIRS-TRAIN RELATED ITEMS-SCALE DIRCAST-HESS TRUCKS-GREENBERG BOOKSTORE-FOOD-AIR CONDITIONING-DOOR PRIZES-OPERATING LAYOUTS-BOOKS-VIDEOS  
   
 Additional Information  
  Wheelchair Accessible  
   
 Directions  
  ON WEBSITE  
   
 Contact Information  
  JOHN (732)845-5966  
   
 Website  
http://eastcoasttrainparts.com  
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 74   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: UPCOMING " Model Railroad Events "    Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 5:53am 
Response #45 By toptrain       Thread Started By toptrain       View Thread with Christian_brothers_s.jpg - 161934 Bytes
**    I know of a April train show in Lincroft New Jersey.
** April 2 2017.
 

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 75   Model Railroading / HOScale / Re: UPCOMING " Model Railroad Events "    Posted Feb 11th, 2017, 5:49am 
Response #44 By toptrain       Thread Started By toptrain       View Thread with Gilbertsville_PA_s.jpg - 168410 Bytes
Next train show is  Gilbertsville PA. March 19, 2017.
 
To far for me. Harrisburgh area.  
 
 

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